Regardless of your opinions of 9/11 , you need to read this.

Originally posted by _BoneZ_

Originally posted by Yankee451
The evidence I've seen, as shown in other posts, has led me to believe the media was and are an integral part in the 911 operation.

And you couldn't resist the continued spamming of the tv fakery/cgi hoax, hmm? There is no evidence. If there were, we all would be supporting it in some way or another. The tv fakery/cgi garbage is a proven HOAX. That's why those threads are in the HOAX bin. Get it?

Now, for the love of Jesus Christ, stop spamming a known and proven HOAX. Move on and do something constructive with yourself. Everybody knows it's a HOAX and nobody is falling for it.

OP, case in point.

I am willing to collaborate with anyone to eliminate the media as possible suspects. It is my position they have worked hand in fist with the CIA since the 40s, and that Operation Mockingbird proves premeditation on the part of the CIA to make sure everything the American public believes is false.

I would start my own thread for collaboration, but look at my Green Screen Magic thread's conversation to see what would happen. While you're there, I invite everyone to consider the conclusion that if the video of the burning boat was presented by four TV stations as being real, most folks would believe it.

reply to post by SeventhSeal


lol your right this will acheive nothing, even if we had bush and bin laden on camera discussing the event prior and passing the box cutters to the hijackers and dropping them off at the airport.

we still would acheive nothing the power of MSM is to much for us mere majority to topple.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by tpg65

 

Can you back up up anything you have just wrote , with facts ?

Yep and you know what they are. Which way you going with this? Are you going to try the straight denial routine? Or maybe the old "they're all in on it" schtick.

9/11 Commission Report.

You place a lot of faith in the Philip Zelikow led 9/11 Commission. Are you by chance familiar with his background and areas of specialization, as well as his connections and conflicts of interest in relation to the Bush Whitehouse?

reply to post by Yankee451


I know look how they covered up the destruction of the white house by alien forces.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by tpg65

 

Can you back up up anything you have just wrote , with facts ?

Yep and you know what they are. Which way you going with this? Are you going to try the straight denial routine? Or maybe the old "they're all in on it" schtick.

9/11 Commission Report.

Hooper, they won't believe anything associated with the govt, however...

How about the popular mechanics special edition where they debunk each 9/11 conspiracy one by one....

I saw loose change years back and for a couple years, thought it was plausible. Although, I was never extremely nasty and aggressive with those views, like the "truthers" who go to ground zero and yell at the family members of victims, firemen, cops, and emts saying its all a lie. I still don't know how none of them got knocked the f### out!

The popular mechanics issue broke it down piece by piece with *gasp* science and it made me feel kind of stupid for even entertaining those conspiracies. Loose change was made by a couple college kids; popular mechanics debunked them with specialists in aeronautics, architecture, engineering, chemistry, physics, etc....who's explanation is more valid objectively?

I know it is hard to be objective when you have subscribed to an idea with all your heart, but the facts are there.
And op, you can't say that someone's opinion isn't welcome here because you don't agree with it. Who are you? The govt?

reply to post by dilly1


On the same page with you dilly.

I never did get a response back from him or her or it.

They can't debunk what i know as fact and what happened, being that i was there and they weren't.

I know how buildings go up and come down and what ever hit those towers was a very small and only visual part of what happened that day.

Now the many controlled explosions and the flashes heard and seen before the collapse seen and heard by many many people and how the buildings came down is where the real story is, and it was not from any plane crashing into it that brought them down, that's just a invented fanciful whitewash story for the general public to cover up the actual demolition of the 3 buildings to pump up the public to start 2 wars. The real story starts with how the buildings were prepped.and compromised in the weeks and or months before being demolished.

By the amount of different companies doing their various jobs and in areas where they would be left alone and closed off from the general public and from other contractors sight (safety/health and insurance reasons among other), it wouldn't be hard to pull off and cover their tracks. there was always work going on 24/7.

Out of every debunker's rebuttal on this subject, all i have heard is the same old story of denial and misinformation or spoon fed information from MSM or bogus reports.

For you debunkers denial; "The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction (to stupidity and ignorance). The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality".

So debunk away, we know you have issues and the only way you can cope is through Ignorance and Trolling and not by actual fact or knowledge. Oh but you say MSM and the Government swear its true the Government even wrote a report so it must be true is only Pure Ignorance not fact.

reply to post by itsatrap

Hooper, they won't believe anything associated with the govt, however...

How about the popular mechanics special edition where they debunk each 9/11 conspiracy one by one....

Forget it. Most of the folks here are well practised deniers and professional conspiracist. They can always find an excuse to dismiss inconvenient facts.

reply to post by gentledissident


Some intresting videos people should take note of your post very well put together and thought provoking.

If MSM told us the version of events that so called conspiracy nuts have been telling the world then we would all be saying it wasnt a false flag attack, that is how powerful there control is they say black is whte then black is the new white.

as my wife is told constantly every so many months in her girly mags.

Welcome To Propoganda Planet

There must be some pilots around here.

Is it possible to land a Boeing airliner at 530 mph ?

reply to post by pteridine


But, but what happened to the missiles on top of the Pentagon that particular day? Why weren't they working?

Originally posted by hooper

Originally posted by tpg65

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by tpg65

 

Let me simplify things - the facts you allegedly seek are in those reports.

Ignore them if you wish. Ignoring facts while supposedly seeking the truth is fun to watch.

Why are you making yourself look foolish .
This is an impartial thread . Show me the evidence that lead to the reports.

Thank you .

OK, I was trying to figure the angle on this thread. I got it. Its the blanket denial and then the spiral down into blanket rejection.

Read the report - the facts are pretty well documented. But then again they're documented by the suspects, right?

You got it buddy, the "facts" as written by the "suspects". Makes sense to me.

What happened to the Pentagon security cameras and their recordings? Why is it impossible to produce any evidence at all that an airliner hit this building?

reply to post by GreatScot


Is this you collaborating?

The OP in this thread is nothing more than trolling and trying to stir up "debate" for stars and flags. If you show him a serial number off of a part of the plane sticking out of a piece of rubble he will deny it is evidence. If you show him a video showing the demolition to be caused by the Borg he will believe it to be fact.

Confirmation Bias at its best. No need for me to offer any input into this thread when the OP is so biased.

reply to post by guitarist


I have nothing but respect for you and wish you and your fellow Americans , I only hope one day I can live in a world were people see this world for what it is a lie. Im sorry for what happened to you and your fellow citizens , I wish for everyone true freedom without oppresion but am just one man.

We are broken and controled by a unit that is cohesive and stealthy , the magic show is build up around fear and anticipation of the impossible our self destruction hanging by a thread,

When in reality all the problems would go away when decent normal people unite and form a unit without borders, black white yellow were all victims of poverty and greed its THE HAVES Vs THE NOTS.

Originally posted by aero56
reply to post by pteridine

 

But, but what happened to the missiles on top of the Pentagon that particular day? Why weren't they working?

It was a Tuesday, everybody knows they polish the missiles on Tuesday. Well known fact. But I'm sure the battery of anti-aircraft guns were manned and ready. They must have gotten a stand down order.

reply to post by galdur


I am not sure about the Pentagon, but a friend of mine who is a pilot for Alaska Airlines told me it would have been very difficult but not impossible for seasoned pilots to do what the pilots of the planes that hit WTC 1 and 2 did, let alone the accused Saudis.

reply to post by Yankee451


sorry will resist in future no offence

but fully support your opinion and im glad your standing up to the offical story

reply to post by tpg65

Ted L. Gunderson former FBI Agent RIP

Former FBI Agent, Ted Gunderson points out the obvious aspects of 9/11....that the FBI had advanced knowledge of 9/11 and that it had to be an inside job.

lol 'Hooper' is a shill.

Do us all a favour and delete your account...."9/11 Commission Report"...god 'elp us...