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posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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9/11 2001 , a date that will go down in history for a multiple of reasons .

In my short time as a member of ATS I have read countless threads on the subject of 9/11 , some with very valid and well researched points and others that were not so well researched , but who still managed to make people stop and think about the subject.
Many people died on that terrible day . Fathers , mothers , sisters , brothers , friends and lovers, all perished at the hands of an unseen enemy. Wether that enemy came from without or within has sadly come down to a point of view of the individual and that my friends is a great dis-service to memory of all who died .
To coin a phrase ..." The truth is out there " . Don't we owe it to the ones who perished , to finally uncover the truth and in doing so , play a part in bringing the perpetrators to justice ?

We are so lucky to have a forum filled with such great enquiring minds . Why can't we put aside our personal loyalties and mistrusts and in doing so , work side by side to finally put together the pieces of what happened on that terrible day ?
We owe it to the memories of all who perished , those who will never be able to share another single moment with their loved ones , to work together to uncover the truth .

In searching for the truth , sometimes we uncover things that go against our beliefs , such is the nature of the beast .
If we here at ATS can work together , put aside our petty differences of opinions and look at the evidence objectively , then maybe one day we can truly honour the dead .

I'm telling you now , any trolling or off topic remarks will be reported immediately .
Let's keep this objective and stick to the facts .


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posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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Nice sentiments, thanks for your post.

I don't mean to be cynical, but I think that's what many of us expect when we go to forums like this...a collaboration of ideas.

Pity it doesn't work out that way most of the time. I wish you luck

S&F



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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And what if you've already heard the truth and insist on perpetuating myths and all out lies? Does that honor the dead also?



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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And what if you've already heard the truth and insist on perpetuating myths and all out lies? Does that honor the dead also?



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Yankee451
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Nice sentiments, thanks for your post.

I don't mean to be cynical, but I think that's what many of us expect when we go to forums like this...a collaboration of ideas.

Pity it doesn't work out that way most of the time. I wish you luck

S&F

Thank you .
I'm sure you'll agree that the wealth of knowledge and intelligence here is totally wasted when it comes to this subject , because we are all guilty of playing intellectual tennis ....



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by hooper
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And what if you've already heard the truth and insist on perpetuating myths and all out lies? Does that honor the dead also?


What truths have you uncovered ?
Please post your findings on this thread , but please leave aside personal feelings and deal solely with proven facts and I promise your findings will be looked at objectively

Regards.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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I'm sure you'll agree that the wealth of knowledge and intelligence here is totally wasted when it comes to this subject , because we are all guilty of playing intellectual tennis ....



The more I learn, the less I know, you know?

It's a tough road and its easier in the short term to avert our eyes...but the truth will set us free, as they say in Langley.

I think the intellectual tennis is played against ourselves, and that prevents us from believing our eyes.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by tpg65

Originally posted by hooper
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And what if you've already heard the truth and insist on perpetuating myths and all out lies? Does that honor the dead also?


What truths have you uncovered ?
Please post your findings on this thread , but please leave aside personal feelings and deal solely with proven facts and I promise your findings will be looked at objectively

Regards.


Its been ten years. You know what is out there, all the reports and trials. They are proven. There is no need to repeat it. On Sept. 11, 2001 nineteen men hijacked 4 American planes, took control and crashed the planes into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania. Those 19 and those that supported them are responsible for the deaths. End of story.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by hooper

Originally posted by tpg65

Originally posted by hooper
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And what if you've already heard the truth and insist on perpetuating myths and all out lies? Does that honor the dead also?


What truths have you uncovered ?
Please post your findings on this thread , but please leave aside personal feelings and deal solely with proven facts and I promise your findings will be looked at objectively

Regards.


Its been ten years. You know what is out there, all the reports and trials. They are proven. There is no need to repeat it. On Sept. 11, 2001 nineteen men hijacked 4 American planes, took control and crashed the planes into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania. Those 19 and those that supported them are responsible for the deaths. End of story.


I'm sorry but your post proves nothing . Yours is the attitude that is unwelcome in this thread .
Bring some facts and I promise they will be discussed and looked at objectively . If you are not willing to do this , then please refrain from posting .

Thank you



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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So what wasn't factual about my post? Sept. 11, 2001? Hijackers? 4 planes? The towers of the World Trade Center? The Pentagon?



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by hooper
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So what wasn't factual about my post? Sept. 11, 2001? Hijackers? 4 planes? The towers of the World Trade Center? The Pentagon?


Can you back up up anything you have just wrote , with facts ?

You mention the attack on the Pentagon , but did you know that there is not one scrap of evidence to prove that it was hit by a passenger jet . If you have evidence to the contrary , then please present it and it will be objectively discussed.

C U later
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posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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And now you've met Hooper.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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provide some evidence of these "facts" please



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by Yankee451
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And now you've met Hooper.


I doubt he will be back for a while



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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It is very telling, that we're on a mainstream "conspiracy" forum, a few weeks before the ten year anniversary of 911, and there is no one from the official story, or even the "official truth" movement who have the temerity to notice it's strange that any topics are off the table here.

Why would any subject be considered a "hoax" on a site that's crawling with UFO and Bigfoot posts?

Who are they kidding?



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 08:05 PM
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You have to know that this is a sensitive topic for TPTB.

If too much 'truth' gets "figured out", there may well be a big old fat finger pointing right at them and god knows how many billions of dollars worth of gold gone missing from the bank vaults under the twin towers, of which only 280 million (one truckload worth trapped in an exit tunnel during the collapse) was ever recovered.

So now, do you honestly think they're going to let any version of the 'truth' with them implicated be 'figured out'?

Which is why, despite a lot of what seems quite credible evidence I've seen presented here and elsewhere that very much points to an inside job, probably CIA, it will continue to be ignored by the mainstream media and poo-hooed everywhere, including here on ATS.

Remember, they've got LOTS and LOTS of money and resources (and those billions and billions they got from under the world trade center is coming in handy I'm sure) and own most of the major media. And are doing their darnest to own the internet too. Luckily they've been held off by the guys who love their access to porn and are willing to spend money to do so! *lol*
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posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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It does work out. Do you know how many people have *woken* up to our Government and how it's used *us* for their *end means* ?

On the day of 911 when those towers went down I did NOT immediately think...* Someone's Lying* but I did think this.."Wow...those towers are coming down like those buildings I've seen in Vegas getting demolished by those demo. teams." and that thought stayed in the back of my mind until one day, I saw a post that had my question and other questions. This was in 2003...when that person questioned the official story that thought came out full force about those towers and I knew right then why that thought acted like a tic that wouldn't leave me. If the way those towers came down wasn't true...then what else wasn't true?

Since 2003 I have converted a LOT of people and some of those people were so hard core Republican and Government and their thought was, *They WOULD NEVER do anything like that to their own people!* One of these people was really very hard core about it and when I first started telling him of what I believed his face went red. He was pissed that I would even think what I was thinking. I said one little thing that changed him around forever and those few words were... "I'm NOT trying to convince you what I think or feel or believe...I'm only trying to get you to LOOK at the evidence we have...and then....come to your opinion." He said fair enough. He now believes and I will never forget the look on his face when he admitted that the evidence he investigated....destroyed everything he ever believed in. I told him I knew exactly how he felt. It was like finding out for the first time that Santa Clause wasn't really real. It was devastating.

I actually witnessed a hard core republican, proud American, Hard working American, broken in a sense. He got a call from a Government worker that needed to poll him concerning some issue and the only thing I heard him say was this... "I cannot help you. I do NOT trust our Government anymore. They've lied to me to many times." He hung up.

It broke my heart. This is not a weak man. He owns his own business and employees a lot of people and gives back to his community as much as he can. So it made me think of all the proud Men of this Country that either fought for this country and our freedoms or lost people very close to them for those same reasons. Now here's 5 wars, innocent people are dying... He doesn't feel Proud of this Country anymore....I think he's actually scared. What have they done? What have they done?......................................................................................

People are waking up... not just here in the US but all around the World. But, as far as here is concerned... I do believe that more and more people are waking up..finally. I was very angry that a Man could steal a Presidency..not once...and we PROVED IT...but TWICE and we PROVED it...but the American people did absolutely NOTHING. I was sooo angry. My children will never forget the day that they swore George Bush into office... I cried... hard... I now know why I did. Anyways... there were a lot of people that tried to fight... there just wasn't enough of us out there to make a difference... to not allow it... 1 ant by himself...

I want ALL those that are guilty of murdering our people and those over seas to be brought to justice. Just because you didn't push the button that brought down the towers, or shoot the missile into the Pentagon, your just as guilty of those that did if you actually know something and have done nothing. I've always said that invading Iraq was central-foot hold to what their true goals were. All of the middle east and what it holds.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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Can you back up up anything you have just wrote , with facts ?


Yep and you know what they are. Which way you going with this? Are you going to try the straight denial routine? Or maybe the old "they're all in on it" schtick.

9/11 Commission Report.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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I doubt he will be back for a while


Sigh. You'd be surprised.





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