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posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Precisely. See this is what I'm saying as well. I suspect that there is a little bit of truth in most religions, but you can't take one specific one, and claim that one as the whole truth or whole lies. It's completely illogical to reason that way.

Religion in itself, is an organisation of different organisations, in my view. Each organisation demands loyalty in varying degrees to itself. For those following a specific organisation, they are taught not to think outside of the lines set by the organisation, as that would be, apparently blasphemy and mockery, which is not true. What these that follow dogmas fail to realise, is that by doing this, not stepping out, thinking outside of the lines set, they are actually closing themselves off, to what it's all really supposed to be, the bigger picture. Each only grasps one piece of a puzzle, and holds on only to that one piece, any other pieces are taught to be blasphemous and mockery.

Each teaches a specific perception of what ET's are. therefor Torqpoc was quite correct, and I was mistaken, and it is not off-topic, because how we are taught to perceive these ET's according to the different dogmas, is how we will perceive a message, if there is one. Failing to see the bigger picture then, because you are taught a specific dogma, will then cause you to not perceive the message as it is in truth, your own mind will do the twisting for you, without you consciously having to do so.

So ... therefor bringing a message to the subconscious instead of the conscious mind, is the exact way to go about bringing a message to the people, if said people are influenced by dogmas.

Does any of what I just said make any sense, or have I just come full circle and I need to just be quiet now?

edit on 26-8-2011 by Pixie777 because: eta




posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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in some respects we have not really evolved, even from Moses time. Oh sure, we have all these whiz bang electronics and such, but fundamentally we are still doing the same things. We want to know if there is something more than us, we want to know why we are here, what is our purpose and we can't be alone. We all know there is a greater force, we just don't know what it is. Science has been built upon that foundation. We see and hear things that we want to in order to justify our deep down beliefs. We want to believe that we are not alone, whether that be a god or an alien, we want desperately to believe. And since we believe, and have been taught for generations that our time here is limited, we seek to find out when it will end, and how.

Space exploration, nuclear science and even electronics have all been to further our knowledge, or lack thereof, of who we are, how did we get here and how do we continue to exist. We will analyze sounds that nature makes and interpret them to suit what we believe. We interpret natural wonders to mean things we want them to. Everything has to be in a container and fit what we believe. When it does not, we get angry, and will defend our beliefs sometimes to the death.

Now I don't know the answers, but I for one refuse to believe in an end all be all being. I also refuse to believe that in the vastness of space, we are the only life forms to exist. We try to mold our perceptions about what we know of life on this planet and apply it to the universe. If science has taught us one thing, it's that we don't know jack s**t when it comes to the cosmos. It is utterly arrogant of us to have the pretense to push our knowledge into a standardized package of what can or cannot exist.

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@Pixie777 - No, you make perfect sense. I follow exactly what you are saying, and my post above is a clear indication of that.
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posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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Hello
Just so you guys know. I tried to post on this website and god like productions my last comment about the 2-3 week time table. The new thread wouldn't take here. On GLP the thread was accepted but minutes later there was a server error. Then I was banned by the server at my job. But only for glp. Someone doesn't want me to post this away from the board. So if you are fearless and not afraid of the govt., make me a thread with my last post info on both sites. I am keeping a low profile now that someone could be on to me.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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Ok people you have been told again what is wrong, and what do you do.?... nothing.


Whats wrong :......EVERYTHING.

What do we do :.......CHANGE



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by odinson
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Hello
Just so you guys know. I tried to post on this website and god like productions my last comment about the 2-3 week time table. The new thread wouldn't take here. On GLP the thread was accepted but minutes later there was a server error. Then I was banned by the server at my job. But only for glp. Someone doesn't want me to post this away from the board. So if you are fearless and not afraid of the govt., make me a thread with my last post info on both sites. I am keeping a low profile now that someone could be on to me.


GLP bans everyone...it seems. Has banned me repeatedly from viewing or posting for no reason whatsoever. So I don't think you should worry about the govt being on to you.

Also, I believe you have to have 20 posts to start a thread on ATS. So looks like you have 2 more to go and you should be good!



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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Why not just post what you have in this thread?

Seemed like a valid suggestion albeit one line's worth. Sometimes less is more, no?



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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Once you get to 20 posts, you can create a thread.
2nd.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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OK. But I did try to use the pst. So hopefully people will have the word out soon.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 11:27 AM
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There are links to the original Utube sound (explicit language in the begining) and the OP's cut and clean version on the 1st page of this thread.

If I was to re-post them, they would just end up getting lost in the thread....



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by FORMe2p00p0n
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There are links to the original Utube sound (explicit language in the begining) and the OP's cut and clean version on the 1st page of this thread.

If I was to re-post them, they would just end up getting lost in the thread....


nobody yet here on ATS that is specialised in audio electronic manipulation ?? acceleration, reduction, more or less amplitude, more or less noise ... man man man, when it's about videos of UFO's then thousands of people talk in technical terms about pixels and photoshop etc etc but when it's about audio examining this there is so little response here about it ????
please examine, please do accelerate, reduct, amplify, anything like with EVP people are doing .....
hello ..... anybody here ???? ...
sorry but I cann't

edit on 26-8-2011 by Sunlionspirit because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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I've been tweaking on the original sound the last two days... although my skills with audio is limited to intermediate editing, cut & past, cleaning and manipulation, I have found some cool stuff for sure... like the crickets in the backround are between 2.5 and 4.0 MHZ (which cleans the sound but who knows if I am also taking away from the original sound) ..... but seriously the sound seems to be recorded from a not so great microphone so it is really hard to determine what is the original frequencies of the noise are vs. what is backround noise vs. what is the cheap microphone interference noise.

Maybe if you do some research and find what frequencies we should be exploring or cutting out, it might help.... i think the range of my software is 25 HZ to 25 MHZ (20,000 HZ) & from -60 to 19 dB.

I linked a couple different versions of the sound to the Original Link which was provided on page 1 of this thread (1/2 speed, 1/100 speed, original utube) and when I have more time I'll save and upload some interesting frequencies.... like 1.0 MHZ with a range of 10MHZ all the way up to 19 dB was real interesting.... but did I undo the purpose of the sound by doing that **shrugs**

NOT TO MENTION IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO JUST POST THEM STRAIGHT TO ATS LIKE A PICTURE!!

(That would be so cool if they heard that and put an audio uploader on.....or is there one and I'm just to dense to
edit on 26-8-2011 by FORMe2p00p0n because: I had to go potty



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Wow!!!
You step away for a day or two and look at what happens.
What in the hell is going on here?
You guys are seriously talking about "GOD" and the Bible?

I would like to learn more about this child and her message not some make believe
dude in the clouds or voices you guys are hearing in your heads.

What do you call a person who hears voices in their head?

A. Schizophrenic
B. Christian.

Apparently it just depends on who you are and whether or not you go to church.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by FORMe2p00p0n
reply to post by Sunlionspirit
 


I've been tweaking on the original sound the last two days... although my skills with audio is limited to intermediate editing, cut & past, cleaning and manipulation, I have found some cool stuff for sure... like the crickets in the backround are between 2.5 and 4.0 MHZ (which cleans the sound but who knows if I am also taking away from the original sound) ..... but seriously the sound seems to be recorded from a not so great microphone so it is really hard to determine what is the original frequencies of the noise are vs. what is backround noise vs. what is the cheap microphone interference noise.

Maybe if you do some research and find what frequencies we should be exploring or cutting out, it might help.... i think the range of my software is 25 HZ to 25 MHZ (20,000 HZ) & from -60 to 19 dB.

I linked a couple different versions of the sound to the Original Link which was provided on page 1 of this thread (1/2 speed, 1/100 speed, original utube) and when I have more time I'll save and upload some interesting frequencies.... like 1.0 MHZ with a range of 10MHZ all the way up to 19 dB was real interesting.... but did I undo the purpose of the sound by doing that **shrugs**

NOT TO MENTION IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO JUST POST THEM STRAIGHT TO ATS LIKE A PICTURE!!

(That would be so cool if they heard that and put an audio uploader on.....or is there one and I'm just to dense to
edit on 26-8-2011 by FORMe2p00p0n because: I had to go potty


no offence to you fellow human being !!! nobody is expert, I am not ... but it's getting time some experts put their intelligence on it and try to find out !!! peace ! nice to see you are doing what you can anyway !!!



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Fascinating thread


So, My 5yr old grandson came to visit this evening and I played the noises ( raw, and cleaned-up version ). I played the raw version four times, then the cleaned up version four times. On the last play he came up to the computer and asked me " Can I see the tyrannosuarus Granma?"
"What tyrannosuarus bab?" said I.
" The one going Raaaawwwwr on your computer Granma" said he.

My conclusion? Epic fail !!! Not on his part as he is after-all a five year old boy.
Not sure if i'm disappointed or relieved really, and don't know if this actually helps the thread at all, but just wanted to let you guys know the outcome


S&F as i've found this thread extremely interesting.
edit on 26-8-2011 by MissConstrood because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Screwed
Wow!!!
You step away for a day or two and look at what happens.
What in the hell is going on here?
You guys are seriously talking about "GOD" and the Bible?

I would like to learn more about this child and her message not some make believe
dude in the clouds or voices you guys are hearing in your heads.

What do you call a person who hears voices in their head?

A. Schizophrenic
B. Christian.

Apparently it just depends on who you are and whether or not you go to church.



are you warning the people who hear ETs, that you will refer to them as schizophrenic? is this an attempt to shut the mouths of people who have had experiences? listen, if human tech can transmit a voice/music into your head so that it sounds like it's right there (good stereo headphones can do this) in your head, what makes you think an advanced culture with even better tech, couldn't do the same thing?

this post of yours is in very poor taste
edit on 26-8-2011 by undo because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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i don't view ancient texts as religious in the sense most think of religion today. i view them as historical, often colorful, frequently metaphorical, but typically just their version of what happened to their ancestors.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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it's a world view regarding history. same as any other world view regarding history. don't you find it rather odd that the biggest skeptics regarding ufology, religion or ancient history are scientists yet those ancient texts and ufology are packed to the brim with high level technology.

there's cloning. air travel. space travel. weapons of mass destruction. anti-gravity. cloaking technology. terraforming. manipulation of atoms ( i think that's loosely translated as alchemy) to create new substances from other substances.

ya


i also theorize that there's wormhole generating technology, teleportation, weather manipulation, and etc.


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posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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you are insisting that ALL ETs are going to be friendly.


No, I am not insisting all ETs are "friendly," or all are "benevolent." In fact, the Draco/Reptilian bunch are quite evil in that respect, and should be avoided at all costs. I do not trust the Sirians either, they are the Galactic weapons dealers, and they sell, if that is the word for it, to all factions. Of course they keep the best for themselves. Even in the Pleiadian world, where my own connections are, there are factions that cannot be trusted. Here is who to trust, undo.....your own self, your own instincts. We all have a "fight or flight" built in truth meter, do we not?

What I fear for Jews, Christians, and Muslims is this: They are being fooled into thinking they are the "chosen few" who will be "saved," that is, "swept up in the clouds to be with Christ in Heaven." I fear, and I say this in the most strongest terms, that the Draco, the Dragon Race, and slowly lulling the religious crowd into a subservient thinking, susceptible to a Blue Beam scenario in which they will be "Harvested" by the Draco posing as Gods, they did this before in Biblical Times, it is no stretch that they could do it again.

My thing is Ascension. Everyone can feel it coming, the convergence of crises and the new age of humanity that will follow it. This actually goes along with some Bible teaching, in that we will all have a "New Body," this means Humanity will suddenly realize they are more than human, that they are in fact a Spirit, and a Divine one at that. This may sound all "New Age" to you, but in fact it will be a new age. One thing to remember,
the coming Ascension won't be an abandonment of the world of matter that we call planet Earth. We will not leave Earth to enter Heaven, but will bring Heaven here to Earth. We won't just see the most enlightened among us shedding their mortal bodies, and suddenly turning into Beings of Pure Energy. We are already Beings of Pure Energy, we are just trapped in human flesh, and we have forgotten who we are.
Dark Forces that Christianity calls "Satan, Demons, Devil" are in fact very real, but are not just one ultimate author of evil, no, they are a Force like a well armed Military Force. And they mean to enslave us all, and they mean to separate our human bodies from our souls. They want the Pure Energy for their own purposes.

I leave you with this:

According to the Siri Singh Sahib, also known as Yogi Bhajan, the official start of the Age of Aquarius begins in 2011 – on November 11.

In August of 2000, the Siri Singh Sahib, Yogi Bhajan, gave a seminal lecture about the exact nature of the change of consciousness between the Age of Pisces and the Age of Aquarius. In that lecture he explained many of the differences between the way people have acted in the last 2000 years and the way people will evolve in the future.

In the Age of Pisces, sexuality was the orientation of relationships between men and women, and it created a lot of pain. In the Age of Aquarius, men and women will reach out to one another with dignity, mutuality and respect.

In the Age of Pisces, people gathered physical wealth around them to prove their status. They oriented themselves to the temporary earthly plane instead of to their immortal Spirit. In the Age of Aquarius, people will act gracious, kind, and their touch will fill the hearts of others with love. In the Age of Pisces, religion falsely taught people to find God outside of themselves.

In the Age of Aquarius, we will find God inside of ourselves. We will see every grain of sand is God, and we will trust and dwell in the working God, Karta Purkh, which lives and breathes inside of us. These are the changes of consciousness that are taking place and will continue to take place on the planet as we navigate the last days of the Age of Pisces.

uniteunderfreedom.com...



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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well i'm one of those people who think Enki cloned us, i'm a semi-sitchinite, and i base this position partially on his writings, the sumerian texts, the akkadian texts, and the egyptian texts, but mostly on the original languages of the biblical text. i don't call any of these ideas lies, nor manipulations of the truth. i just read them like history texts. we're just working with a deck of data that has been stacked against us by the over reaction of the enlightenment period (where they threw away everything, baby, bath water, bathtub, whoosh out the window).
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posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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Does any of what I just said make any sense, or have I just come full circle and I need to just be quiet now?


Please don't, Pixie777, (check your U2s) being quiet about what we know in these times would be bad, very bad. Just like I was just accused of bigotry and prejudice, those are the last things I wish to project. I just want people to look deep inside their own selves, and stop looking at the stars for things like God, Goddess, and Heaven. We are the Creators here, and we are not servants to our own creators. So they made us, so what? does that in itself makes them Gods to be worshipped? I think not. I believe my DNA contains parts of many different races, in this universe, and beyond. My physical appearance makes no difference at all, it is what dwells within that really means something, and that goes for everyone.
I am sorry if I projected what people use to divide and conquer, and to control and master. I am attempting to teach all that you are your own Master, and you need no other.




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