Hitler, Marx, Glenn Beck, Michael Moore: The Book Banning Experiment, page 1


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reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 05:59 AM by JesusLives
reply to post by Skyfloating



Books should not be burned. People should be educated to understand that all literature of a political nature is designed to pitt people against each other so that the elite can go about their business while the cavemen fight to the death. Divide and rule.



reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 06:14 AM by Skyfloating
reply to post by mblahnikluver



I read "The Communist Manifesto", "Mein Kampf" and yes, even "Morals and Dogma" and I am glad I did because I now really know what Im talking about when trying to debunk Marx or Hitler. "Mein Kampf" is outlawed in some countries and thats sad because it does not stop people from reading it, it just makes them more defensive of it.

Anyway...I agree that Morals & Dogma can get heavy and boring at times.


reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 09:51 AM by woodwardjnr
It's sad, it seems like people have no knowledge of modern history and demonstrates how simple it will be for history to repeat itself.



Those who burn books will end up burning people.

But, in recent American history, it was deemed fine to burn records of artists the mainstream didn't like. Disco Demolition night.
en.wikipedia.org...





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reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 10:01 AM by redoubt
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I came across this interesting social Experiment in which random crowds on the streets were willing to ban U.S. Right-Wing books by Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck, but were unwilling to Ban Hitlers "Mein Kampf" and "The Communist Manifesto". Whats sad about this is not only that recent History seems to have been forgotten, but that none of the participants in the Experiment appears to have said "I dont believe in banning books, this is free speech America".


When I was coming up, the general thing was that... I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.

But just over the last 30 years or so, this has changed... mainly because our news media migrated away from neutral independence and became vested gears in the political machines that paid their way. As a result, we reflect the purposeful polarization of our information services that were basically turned into partisan propaganda machines.

Today, we are a thin-skinned, intolerant, narrow-minded culture that has no notion of civil discourse or accepting any opinions that don't mesh perfectly with our own. We can't debate issues without resorting to verbal insult barrages and slander based on the stereotypes, slogans and half truths we get from our favorite news network political personalities.

Hitler, Marx... Stalin are all long enough gone that those who were alive during WW2 (or before) are dying off and less able to directly influence contemporary thought and policy.

Our schools do not turn out people who are capable of interacting with the rest of society. We have devolved from a nation of learned, free people to that of an audience at the Roman arena... or a pro wrasslin smack down. Our minds are not filled with good, useful information but rather, hammered perceptions so that we automatically respond in a certain way to certain situations.

So... if the thought of banning books no longer upsets us, it's because we can't form the basic understanding of what that would mean to ALL and not just us... or the 'me'.

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reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 12:04 PM by Skyfloating
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Didnt mean to be rude, just asking.

In any case, King doesnt have a chance of hiding that book. As long as there is Internet its unlikely that you can hide books. As long as the Internet is free that is...


reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 04:21 PM by Skyfloating
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The Nazi book burning is sad.

When I was younger I was not much interested in History. Today I understand that those who dont know History are destined to repeat it. All the people in the Experiment mentioned in the OP disregarded Hitlers "Mein Kamp" and Marx as if they were unfamiliar with History.
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reply posted on 19-9-2011 @ 09:14 PM by aaa2500
First. I find it interesting that several of the posters in this thread feel the need to stress that they don't subscribe to the content of a certain book, or would never read said book, but do think that people should be able to... This is the literary equivalent to the 'I am not a communist, but...' defense of the mccarthyist era. It shows that this is a contentious issue, even though it shouldn't be.

Just because you read a book, it does not automatically follow that you agree with it, as some people seem to believe. It simply suggests that you are interested in greater/deeper understanding of a subject, than can be had from wikipedia.

Reading 'Das Kapital' or 'Mein Kampf' gives you a greater understanding of the timeperiod of the book, the society of that time, and the ideas and concepts that were part of that time. It doesn't automatically turn you into a communist or a nationalsocialist.


Second. The video seems seductively simple and straightforward, but it is, in a sense' a trick.

Listen to the carefully crafted way that the offer is stated. 'If you guys are interested in having any of these books banned, you can vote for up to three'.

By asking this way, he is seeding the mind of the people he approaches, with a premise that states 'burning books is perfectly fine'. Then to ensure that their mind won't focus on the premise, he offers that they can vote for up to three, which tricks the mind into focusing on the selection of votes and not the premise.

The whole thing is presented in a tone and bodylanguage that is casual and nonspecific, and designed to send the message that the voter should not think too much about it. Most people will comply with his nonverbal instructions and will soon vote their three choices.

In advertising you learn that people will lose interest the more effort they have to apply. This is why advertising is about concenntrating the message and placing it at the top, or right below breasts, behinds or faces. Here we have 11 bookcovers, with the most recent at the top. As you can see, most people expend their 3 votes before ever reaching the second row, because they act on impulse and emotion.

All in all a clever little experiment in deception and misdirection.


reply posted on 19-9-2011 @ 10:06 PM by beezzer
reply to post by Skyfloating

Truly disturbing OP.
Never would I have thought that this could occur. But I see this as a symptom of a larger problem. As a society, we've become passive. Allowing issues like TSA, Patriot Act et al to exist.
"If it doesn't affect me, then why should I care?"

Banning books.

I don't like olives. We should ban those next. To hell with those of you who like them.

This myopic view and passive display is an insult to every single person who values and embraces freedom.

I am disgusted beyond compare.
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