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Originally posted by FPB214
Originally posted by CaptainInstaban
reply to post by Victor03
You dont know # you smug assholes. You dont know that he was part of the syrian/iranian/baathist terrorist groups that murdered more Iraqis than they did US military personnel. Being that this guy was sniping he very possibly may have had formal training from the iranians or syrians. Real sniping isnt the same as when you sit your ass in a chair and play sniper on the xbox. Iran and syria were giving crash courses on how to shoot, stalk, make ieds, gather intel, ect and PAYING these folks to go out and kill. THAT MAKES HIM A MERCENARY NOT A POOR IRAQI FIGHTING OFF THE INVADERS!!!!!!
And what are you tough guy?
You are nothing more than a mercenary working for the US terror squad. Did you kill your enemies? Some civilians perhaps, collateral damage?
Than you are no better, don´t kid yourself with your false sense of rightiousness.. You should be in jail too then.
It´s ridiculous to think that you guys have some sort of moral superiority or a better justification for your actions, as opposed to the people you were fighting.
I think Americans killed more innocent Iraqi civilians than any other group did.
Who is a smug a hole exactly?
Sure civilians die during war. Death is apart of war. But who the hell are you to claim the U.S is a "terror squad?" Im not debating on whether the shooter should be punished or freed, I have mixed emotions. Show me the proof that Americans killed more innocent's than the terrorist groups. Sure some were tense and scared and innocents get killed, mainly by mistake. Yet, here's these different terror organizations killing their own damn people every single day deliberately, it happened then and it's happening now. Still America is the biggest terrorist of them all right? Considering we strap bombs to our children because we are afraid to fight back ourselves, that's America right?
Fact is, any man who serves his country, no matter where he is located in the world deserves more respect and appreciation then you cowards who would never be brave enough to put your own life on the line for your country. You just sit behind a computer screen and criticize.edit on 22-8-2011 by FPB214 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CaptainInstaban
And what are you tough guy?
You are nothing more than a mercenary working for the US terror squad. Did you kill your enemies? Some civilians perhaps, collateral damage?
Originally posted by CaptainInstaban
I think Americans killed more innocent Iraqi civilians than any other group did.
Originally posted by CaptainInstaban
Who is a smug a hole exactly?
Originally posted by JennaDarling
Now quit your crying when Americans die in WAR.
reply to post by FPB214
Sure civilians die during war. Death is apart of war. But who the hell are you to claim the U.S is a "terror squad?
Yet, here's these different terror organizations killing their own damn people every single day deliberately, it happened then and it's happening now. Still America is the biggest terrorist of them all right? Considering we strap bombs to our children because we are afraid to fight back ourselves, that's America right?
Fact is, any man who serves his country, no matter where he is located in the world deserves more respect and appreciation then you cowards who would never be brave enough to put your own life on the line for your country. You just sit behind a computer screen and criticize.
Originally posted by jerico65
Originally posted by JennaDarling
Now quit your crying when Americans die in WAR.
What I think is really funny is that on wonderful ATS (Deny ignorance!), it's quite alright if US Troops are killed, Hey, it's just war.
But, if an insurgent gets killed, suddenly, it's "War crime! The US is killing innocent civilians!"
Whatever.
Originally posted by CaptainInstaban
And was this started before or after america invaded Iraq?
Originally posted by CaptainInstaban
I would put my life on the line for my family, friends, or for whatever is right.
Not for some imperialistic war.
reply to post by jerico65
Ah, sorry, Gus. Have you actually taken the time to look up the meaning of "Mercenery"? You'll find that the US Marine Corps isn't a "mercenary army" and neither are any of the US Armed Forces. Try again.
Got any proof to back that BS statement up?
Well, I'm not smug, but I'm pretty arrogant. You would be, too, if you were me.
Originally posted by David291
Ignorent fool, not once was it said that it's ok when a us soldier dies it's ok. It's not ok when ANYONE dies. got that? ANYONE.
Originally posted by FriendlyGopher
reply to post by Victor03
Hello there Mr Mercenary, as patriotism is not really a valid reason to invade a country like Iraq you yourself can be classified as one. Anyways lets not dwell on salaries and other lucrative spoils of war.
If you say that syrian/iranian/baathist are training the Iraqis what is different to the US intel training Bin Laden back in the day? Kinda backfired didn't it ? Maybe this will be the same for the "islamists" although I am sure that the Arabian Spring produced some mighty fine "leaders" as well that will be another problem in the next 20 years. So although I don't believe that there is some state organized terrorist training given in Iraq it might be possible some individual groups of people payed by various corporations/groups. Even likely I would say.
btw you make it look as if making an IED requires special training, I think episodes of macgyver is enough to make them
Anyways I don't know the exact circumstances but I think it's hard convicting people to maximum prison sentences in a time of war. In an ideal world every fighting party would go to a re-education camp or whatever to teach them to love people instead of kill them for corporate interests.
And good luck with the nightmares if you were in the theater of war, not my cup of tea I'd rather get hemorrhoids sitting behind my computer playing my X-box games. Call of duty is one of my favorites
Originally posted by Victor03
Originally posted by FriendlyGopher
reply to post by Victor03
Hello there Mr Mercenary, as patriotism is not really a valid reason to invade a country like Iraq you yourself can be classified as one. Anyways lets not dwell on salaries and other lucrative spoils of war.
If you say that syrian/iranian/baathist are training the Iraqis what is different to the US intel training Bin Laden back in the day? Kinda backfired didn't it ? Maybe this will be the same for the "islamists" although I am sure that the Arabian Spring produced some mighty fine "leaders" as well that will be another problem in the next 20 years. So although I don't believe that there is some state organized terrorist training given in Iraq it might be possible some individual groups of people payed by various corporations/groups. Even likely I would say.
btw you make it look as if making an IED requires special training, I think episodes of macgyver is enough to make them
Anyways I don't know the exact circumstances but I think it's hard convicting people to maximum prison sentences in a time of war. In an ideal world every fighting party would go to a re-education camp or whatever to teach them to love people instead of kill them for corporate interests.
And good luck with the nightmares if you were in the theater of war, not my cup of tea I'd rather get hemorrhoids sitting behind my computer playing my X-box games. Call of duty is one of my favorites
We are no mercenaries and there are no spoils of war. I dont have nightmares and never have. What do you know of patriotism? It still exixts and i feel it every time someone insults my coutry or Marine Corps. Sure innocent people die in wars..you folks are so focused on how many innocnt people have died at the hands of americans...look up the books written by service members. Read them and youll see that even alot of those deaths are caused by the jihadis or mujhadeen.
Originally posted by CaptainInstaban
They are fighting for a wage, and are not drafted, are they?
Originally posted by CaptainInstaban
Seems they are hired by the State to fight for them.
I think it is clear to most that there is really not that much difference, bub.
Originally posted by CaptainInstaban
Not at hand, no, do you have proof that would show me my error?
Originally posted by CaptainInstaban
Very nteresting no doubt, but I wasn´t talking to you, was I?
reply to post by jerico65
So, according to your statement, it's OK for Iraqi terrorists to blow up a crowded marketplace and kill women and children (which they have done). I mean, since the US invaded Iraq, it's OK?
I've read that quite a few times on ATS and doubted it every time. Sorry, Gus.
Originally posted by JennaDarling
Draftees don't get a pension or beneifts as those who SIGNED UP do, go as WW2 veterans in the UK.