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posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Talltexxxan
Of course "Apparent Intelligence" was the most selected feature of a democratic president. Thats what they all excell in, "APPARENT" intelligence. Theres a difference in 'actual' intellgence and 'apparent' intelligence.


Yes, it's amazing tome how Progs always think they and their candidates are more intelligent. I don't remember seeing an "apparent intelligence" in the Repub poll? But then I didn't participate in either,however I did look at the results threads of both. I do believe Hillary is quite intelligent, but that does not make her the best candidate for leading our country out of this muck. After all, she promoted deathcare before Bammy did. What difference would it have made? We still couldn't afford it or any of the other stuff we are spending on. Socialism is unsustainable and it kills the seed corn and the host. So what's intelligent about that? Hillary defended the Panther guy way back when also, when she was interning for that marxist guy.




posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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There won't be a U.S. in 2016.......



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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Kucinich?

Really....


-just shakes head- Fringe of the fringe...or conservatives skewing the results greatly into absurdity.

I do like how chuck norris is on that list, however, he is a republican
However, his fists are independant



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:35 PM
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Understood.

I'm one of those folks that would love to see a Primary challenge to Obama. In that vein, the results were a bit disheartening, but fascinating regardless.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by caladonea
I really don't know who I am going to vote for as yet....I am still studying.....thinking....and watching.....I won't make my final decision until November 2012.


Well ok, but you are going to miss out on the Ron Paul secret handshake and free t-shirt.

That sounds reasonable and deductive...you realize we are discussing politics, right?



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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Chuck Norris would probably do a better job at POTUS than most of these knuckle heads as well.

Ron Paul is the man.



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posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by caladonea
I really don't know who I am going to vote for as yet....I am still studying.....thinking....and watching.....I won't make my final decision until November 2012.


Well ok, but you are going to miss out on the Ron Paul secret handshake and free t-shirt.

That sounds reasonable and deductive...you realize we are discussing politics, right?


(Laughing out loud!)...yes I realize that I am discussing politics......I am slow to make up my mind who I will vote for...but by Nov. 2012...I will know.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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Y'all realize of course, that polls like this are barely indicative.

The sad truth is that Obama will be reelected, no matter what these polls indicate. Obama knows it. The Democats know it (esp Pelosi and Reid). Most of the intelligentsia and certainly MSM know it.

The reason is simple: votes. The number of voters that are on the dole, feel like they need entitlements, and otherwise are stupid and lazy far outnumber the rest - and they still get a vote.

It does not matter that Ron Paul (or whatever flavor of fiscally conservative candidate you admire) is the better potential president or not. He can;t get enough votes.

The lazy and the dummies (esp. the union hacks) are the vast majority. They bought the last election. They'll buy the next one too.

All Obama has to do is spew platitudes of nothing (just as he has been), sit back, go on vacations, and throw trillions down the toilet - and wait for November 2012 to roll around. It'll be effortless. Sad, unworthy, frustrating as hell -but effortless nonetheless.

Perry has only the slightest snowball-in-Hell chance of beating Obama - and that's only if he can persuade the rest of the republicans, the libertarians, and a good chunk of the free-loading democats to join him. Good luck with that. Ron Paul, best man or not, will not make it. Sorry. All he'll do is spoil some of Perry's pie.

Obama can keep stepping on his own privates from now till next November and he'll still be shoveled back into the Oval office by his protagonists and despite his ineptitude - esp. in places like California, Illinois - big voter-big union states. He's already got all the blacks and hispanics sewn up. nobody is going to be able to knock him off that mountain... the numbers are just not there...
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posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by Talltexxxan
Of course "Apparent Intelligence" was the most selected feature of a democratic president. Thats what they all excell in, "APPARENT" intelligence. Theres a difference in 'actual' intellgence and 'apparent' intelligence.


I feel that anyone who selected "Electability" or "Apparent Intelligence" just proved that they have no idea what the issues are or they simply have their favorite Candidate but are not aware of their Candidate's stance on the issues. Hence.... a perfect example of what is wrong with Voters in the USA.

As much as we all complain, bitch and moan and place all fault at the feet of Politicians, we need to also accept the fact that they didn't just stroll into Office one day. They were placed there by the Voters. We share in the responsibility for the mess we have created for ourselves in the Political Arena.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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I think the problem Hilary Clinton faces in 2016 is probably going to be her very advanced age at that time...



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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Howard Deans main point is his intelligence!


The man who is routinely caught in bald faced lies and is arguably the most dishonest of them all? Amazing.

The man who makes Jimmy Carter look like a genius? Doubly amazing!

One thing is for sure though, it is strange nobody on the Democrats side is running against Obama. I don't think they have the courage. Let's not forget if you don't support Obama you are a Racist so I guess any Democrat who dared to run against him would be a Racist, right?



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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I hope that Republicans refrained form voting in this poll to keep the results as unbiased as possible.

Interesting results for "Other". Seems like no one is happy on either side of the aisle.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM
I hope that Republicans refrained form voting in this poll to keep the results as unbiased as possible.

Interesting results for "Other". Seems like no one is happy on either side of the aisle.


I am no longer Republican so I voted in the poll. The most accurate part of this though is that the people that did pick Hillary, Obama, Dean, and so on - the establishment Democrats did so due to "Apparent Intelligence" - not because of their economic policies or foreign policies. The policies themselves do not matter so long as they are apparently intelligent. Not sure how well that has worked out in Obama's case. He's apparently intelligent enough to give up and go on vacation and play golf. Good for the rest of us.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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The simplest truth is that even if there were an open DNC primary next year to challenge Obama, it won't mean jack squat. Obama didn't win the DNC popular vote in the 08 primaries... he simply had the most promised deligates & super deligates at the convention. Clinton won the popular vote, but the deligates disliked her, so she was boned. The Democratic party (and this is NOT intended to be a typical partisan comment, just an "as I see it" comment) has without a doubt the most retarded primary system known to exist. It's like they warped back in time to just after the civil war, deemed that the average people's vote counts as a quarter of a person, the friends who work to get other folks to donate money to them, but don't have a lot of their own to give count as a full person, and the ones who open their wallets wide, well shoot, they're "super" deligates and their votes count double!

How bassackwards can you be to have a word rooted in "democracy" as the official name of your party, and then proceed to throw the entire concept under the bus in your own primary?
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posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Ron Paul had the most "other" votes for the Democratic Straw Poll, epic.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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What I want to know is, how did Nancy Pelosi's electability percentage get so high?!



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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Kucinich? yeah.....right....

And we all know the 3 percent who voted for al sharpton couldn't have been serious.

Bernie Sanders should have been named on that list instead of being a write in.

In fact, he did quite well considering how little he is talked about on this website.

As for hilary, she's a corporate democrat. What are people smoking?

You want things to be different yet you vote for the same damn thing you've been getting.

Cripes. no wonder the democratic party sucks.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Ron Paul had the most "other" votes for the Democratic Straw Poll, epic.


Who would have thought??? With all the countless Ron Paul threads that flood this website, you'd think he would have received no votes.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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One thing is for sure though, it is strange nobody on the Democrats side is running against Obama. I don't think they have the courage. Let's not forget if you don't support Obama you are a Racist so I guess any Democrat who dared to run against him would be a Racist, right?


There are many that are pushing Bernie Sanders to run...he's actually been calling for someone to challenge Obama in a primary. He hasn't decided to do so yet however and most likely won't.

he's the only that I think would possibly have a shot at beating him...it's a long shot of course...obama will an incredible amount of money. One thing about Sanders, he's not corporate or billionaire friendly.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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IMO,this poll on this site is useless.Still nice to look at the bar graphs though.





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