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reply posted on 22-8-2011 @ 11:42 AM by relocator


This one should interest you then on Why the New Mass and New Rite of Ordination are Invalid. They show all kinds of different ones.



reply posted on 22-8-2011 @ 04:23 PM by whaaa
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Mind over pain in the worship of a deity completely boggles this western mind.
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reply posted on 24-8-2011 @ 02:29 AM by KilgoreTrout
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Didn't the Native Americans do something similar? I was thinking the other day about when I was giving birth to my son, it was a long birth and I had been awake for over 48 hours, and generally exhausted from hauling around an extra 4 stone in weight...anyway, for a time towards the end, I went somewhere completely else, asleep in my head, but still very much physically awake and participating. There was no pain there.

The Syrian branch of Goddess worship, generally closely associated with Neith, practiced a 'ritual' that involved women dancing to drums and pipe music, quite dischordant music from what I can gather. The dancers, like dervishes, would whip into a frenzy, and then seek to draw their own blood, through biting, scratching and gouging. The faithful would do likewise. The result would be an intense, groups spiritual experience. Similarly, in Homer's Odysessy, when Ulysses asks his crew to strap him, crucifixion style on the mast to enable him to communicate with the gods and indeed he has a vision. Women who had borne the pain of childbirth perhaps always knew of the ability to escape or shut off physical pain, to remove 'self' to another place. In the Phrygian branch of Goddess worship, males that wished to join the Priesthood, would follow a ritual that culminated in their castrating themselves. They would then spend the night in the sacred cave and have visions. Though not all survived of course.
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