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FOIA Documents Disclose FBI Considers Antiwar.com a Terrorist Organization

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posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Unbelievable.

It’s a long article, but it’s worth reading.

Antiwar.com reports:


“It is recommended that a PI be opened to determine if [redacted] are engaging in, or have engaged in, activities which constitute a threat to National Security on behalf of a foreign power.”

Reading that, I could hardly believe my eyes. Yielding to a sudden need for fresh air, I went out into my garden and just sat there for a few moments, warming myself in the last rays of the setting sun. It all seemed so unreal. Was this really happening, or had I imagined the whole thing? I returned to my computer and read it again, just to be certain, and – sure enough – there it was, plain as the pixels on my screen: I was accused of being “a threat to National Security” and working “on behalf of a foreign power.”

What “foreign power” would that be – Libertopia? Galt’s Gulch?

On what evidence was this “preliminary investigation” opened – and is it continuing? We don’t know the answers to these questions because the FBI redacted a good deal of the information it released to the FOIA petitioner, an obscure blogger I’ve never heard of. If the feds have such evidence, then let them release it – instead of releasing heavily censored documents that simply make unsupported assertions. That this kind of systematic defamation is now part and parcel of our system of “law enforcement” makes a mockery of the idea that we live in a free society. We don’t, as this incident has brought home to be in a very personal way.


I’m sure it is only a matter of time until your’s truly is on the receiving end of a Stasi investigation for promoting things like individual liberty and sound money. The more my viewership grows, the bigger the threat I become to the criminals holding illegitimate power. The same is true for any website operator in the liberty movement.

Antiwar.com is just one of many blogs and publications targeted by our illegitimate criminal government for promoting peace and reconciliation. The FBI is a terrorist organization that must be brought to justice. Everyone should demand a pubic accounting of the FBI’s criminal actions and blatant disregard for individual rights.

Replace the word ‘Socialists’ with ‘Peace Activists’ in this poem and then consider its relevance to our society today.


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out –
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out –
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out –
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.


- MARTIN NIEMÖLLER

And while we are on the subject of the FBI, listen to this former agent's testimony and decide for yourself just who the real terrorists are.


edit on 22-8-2011 by mnemeth1 because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1
Unbelievable.

It’s a long article, but it’s worth reading.

Antiwar.com reports:


“It is recommended that a PI be opened to determine if [redacted] are engaging in, or have engaged in, activities which constitute a threat to National Security on behalf of a foreign power.”

Reading that, I could hardly believe my eyes. Yielding to a sudden need for fresh air, I went out into my garden and just sat there for a few moments, warming myself in the last rays of the setting sun. It all seemed so unreal. Was this really happening, or had I imagined the whole thing? I returned to my computer and read it again, just to be certain, and – sure enough – there it was, plain as the pixels on my screen: I was accused of being “a threat to National Security” and working “on behalf of a foreign power.”

What “foreign power” would that be – Libertopia? Galt’s Gulch?

On what evidence was this “preliminary investigation” opened – and is it continuing? We don’t know the answers to these questions because the FBI redacted a good deal of the information it released to the FOIA petitioner, an obscure blogger I’ve never heard of. If the feds have such evidence, then let them release it – instead of releasing heavily censored documents that simply make unsupported assertions. That this kind of systematic defamation is now part and parcel of our system of “law enforcement” makes a mockery of the idea that we live in a free society. We don’t, as this incident has brought home to be in a very personal way.


I’m sure it is only a matter of time until your’s truly is on the receiving end of a Stasi investigation for promoting things like individual liberty and sound money. The more my viewership grows, the bigger the threat I become to the criminals holding illegitimate power. The same is true for any website operator in the liberty movement.

Antiwar.com is just one of many blogs and publications targeted by our illegitimate criminal government for promoting peace and reconciliation. The FBI is a terrorist organization that must be brought to justice. Everyone should demand a pubic accounting of the FBI’s criminal actions and blatant disregard for individual rights.

Replace the word ‘Socialists’ with ‘Peace Activists’ in this poem and then consider its relevance to our society today.


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out –
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out –
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out –
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.


- MARTIN NIEMÖLLER



edit on 22-8-2011 by mnemeth1 because: (no reason given)


This is the exact same argument that Iran used, and is still using today, against the Green movement in Iran (Iran's Green movement isn't an ecollogical movement like it is in the West).

I said months ago here on ATS that I thought Iran was an 'experiment' in how to quash social unrest and challenges to a dictatorial government, that Iran and US are both working for the same global dictatorship and were on the same side, and that the tactics used in Iran would be copied and rolled out in the West.

Sadly, it looks as though that is exactly what is happening.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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Well the iSwag Documents disclose that www.WhiteHouse.Gov is a Terrorist Organization.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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Interesting. I just checked out Antiwar.com and all I see is a website that's covering all the wars around the world. Nothing terrorist about it. In fact, terrorism and anti-war don't even agree with each other. So how could the FBI be so biased? That may be because anyone that goes against the US Gov't status quo must be a terrorist. They are definitely doing a fine job of making terrorists out of everyone but themselves, too which they are definitely terrorists.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 11:15 AM
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I propose that everybody on ATS starts their own website dedicated to peace freedom and liberty in an effort to overwhelm the FBI's resources. They can investigate us all, but it will take a really long time ^^



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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Please read Jason Raimondo column on today's Antiwar.com today, hell read Antiwar.com everyday

This site is one of the few to stand up and say what is happening about wars and the imperialist agendas of too many governments.

Governments around the world will not be satisfied till all voices of dissent are silenced, as the quote from Martin Niemoller.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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Government has gone berserk.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by WoundedByHonesty
reply to post by mnemeth1
 

I propose that everybody on ATS starts their own website dedicated to peace freedom and liberty in an effort to overwhelm the FBI's resources. They can investigate us all, but it will take a really long time ^^


what an excellent idea, then all the jobless could apply for positions in the continuiosly expanding intelligence fields...economic woes solved, we just need more terrorists...oh wait nvm, someone already thought of that...
Intelligence analyst school expanding course offerings in 2011



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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just out of curiousity who is considered to be more fascist?

the administration of 8 years ago or the current administration?

personally i think we are living under the most fascist time of american history.

so the op does not surprise me in the least.

if the status quo continues ats will be declared a terrorist organization.

food for thought.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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I wonder if anyone has tried to find out?

Thanks



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 06:39 PM
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Really?! Lmao. I'm curious as to what they say about ATS!! We have to have our own domestic terrorist file opened somewhere by now. Bring it b••••!



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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Since the investigation was conducted in 2004, I would say 8 years ago. Sadly, Obama is just carrying on those fascist policies.


According to a memo stamped “Secret,” marked as “routine,” and dated April 30, 2004, we apparently drew the attention of the feds when we posted a copy of a “terrorist suspect list” [.pdf] which had been supplied by the US government to various corporate and governmental agencies, both here and abroad. These documents – including one posted on the web site of an Italian banking association – contained the names of those on a “watch list,” the product of an FBI operation dubbed “Operation Lookout.” The memo acknowledges the list “was posted on the internet” in “different versions,” but says the FBI “assessment was conducted on the findings discovered on www.antiwar.com.”




posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Government has gone berserk.



My thought exactly.

I am so fed up with the criminals in DC and the criminal in Uniform (LEO), that I can not put any coherent thoughts together.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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I don’t see anything strange about the listing.

It’s been common knowledge that a good portion of the antiwar/peace activist organizations in the US are funded and organized by outside forces. They do it to undermine the country’s will to fight. It’s called subversion.

They actual peace organization may not know that they receive foreign money. They are funded by another organization in the US. But that other organization gets it’s money from the foreign influence. They do that so that the US organization will have deniability.

And they also do it so that the people in the US organization will truly believe in what they are doing. If they don’t know they are being used as tools then they will be more inclined to put their heart and sole into it. They will generally be more effective when they are ignorant of the true objective.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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The FBI’s Verdict: Further Investigation

All of which the FBI used to come to the following conclusion:

The rights of individuals to post information and to express personal views on the Internet should be honored and protected; however, some material that is circulated on the Internet can compromise current active FBI investigations. The discovery of two detailed Excel spreadsheets posted on www.antiwar.com may not be significant by itself since distribution of the information on such lists are wide spread. Many agencies outside of law enforcement have been utilizing this information to screen their employees. Still it is unclear whether www.antiwar.com may only be posting research material compiled from multiple sources or if there is material posted that is singular in nature and not suitable for public released. There are several unanswered questions regarding antiwar.com. It describes itself as a non-profit group that survives on generous donations from its readers. Who are these contributors and what are the funds used for? [two lines redacted] on www.antiwar.com. If this is so, then what is his true name? Two facts have been established by this assessment. Many individuals worldwide do view this website including individuals who are currently under investigation and [one line redacted].

With the recommendations (for DC’s corrupt ECAU office):

It is recommended that ECAU further monitor the postings on the website www.antiwar.com.

So the FBI is interested in who the donors are, huh? Well, if it wasn't obvious that FBI is monitoring all social media these days, I just might make an admission. Nah! I know nothing!



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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It’s been common knowledge that a good portion of the antiwar/peace activist organizations in the US are funded and organized by outside forces. They do it to undermine the country’s will to fight. It’s called subversion.

An American citizen pleads with his nation: "No, don't waste 2.6 Trillion dollars and 100,000s of lives, we can't afford it morally or financially.!"

Subversion. Riiiiiiiiiiight.

"Material support for terrorism." Obviously. "Round them up, they're treasonous enemies of America!" "Kill them quick, in self defense!!" "Torches, pichforks, unmanned drones!"
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posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 09:38 PM
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How does their belief in their cause have any affect on the question of where their financial support comes from? They can truly believe in their cause all they want, but if the money is coming from outside entities, then it is foreign money being used to undermine the stated goals of the united states. Subversion is subversion irrelevant of whether you agree with it or not.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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You talk as if it is a confirmed fact of foreign funding. Is an FBI investigation proof?

"Oh no! Foreigners are helping Americans read the news!"

I can think of a few foreign "lobbies" that actually get American legislators elected, who then approve of war actions, on behalf of those foreign actors. Is their lobby clout enough to get the FBI to "take out the opposition"? Is antiwar.com bringing awareness of those "lobbies"?



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:12 PM
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Every now and then, I see someone with an av or sig, that says >(in real small letters)>"Except for ending slavery, fascism, Nazism, and Communism, (and then in real big letters)>"War Has Never Solved Anything".

Stupid stupid stupid stupid.

How did war end communism? Did we win in Vietnam? Then, here's one better. Did our stellar whiteknight troops make the Soviet Union Fall?
War stopped Nazism? Oh really? So Operation Paperclip, MK-Ultra experiments, the Illumined elite, Skull And Bonesman, Ayrian Brotherhood, SkinHeads, arrrrrre what. Chopped liver?
I heard of black emancipation going on before the Civil War was well in full bloom.
But someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm open to knowing I was wrong, unlike these pro war-loving wackos.



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