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Maxine Waters says "The Tea Party Can Go Straight To Hell"

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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by newcovenant
 



Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by newcovenant



Good God man, I won't defend the woman since there are decent Americans among them, and this woman should not be holding a public office and swearing in this heated climate but calling this Tea Party constituency "a grass roots organization of fellow citizens" like calling the klan "an under served and outspoken voter block."



You, sir, are ridiculous. You quote far left fringe elements that scream racism at every turn, and you expect anyone to believe it? I mean, the NAACP calling an organization racist? Oh what a surprise! They call everything that is remotely white, racist. Wake up, fer goodness sake.

You are using the Alinksy tool of repeating bullcrap long enough and loud enough till you and others believe it to be true. I could never lie and repeat the lie; I guess it was just my upbringing and my integrity. Your mileage may vary.



But then I don't know why you insist on doing so, repeating lies I mean. Integrity...
If you choose to see those links as all from the same source who am I to enlighten you? Have a feeling you are comfortable in your delusions and so I will not rile you but if you have the strength of character you might notice they are from 4 or 5 independent and unrelated sources telling not exactly but pretty much the same thing. You however are free to keep floating up and down the Egyptian River of DENIAL.


The main issue I have with your ilk is the attempt to disparage the TPM by labeling them racist, when you know that you are spreading unverified slurs. Nowhere can you prove that the TPM is such an organization...and I don't mean some out-of-context soundbite by some overzealous member or some photo that could be interpreted a dozen different ways. No. Give me verifiable statements from the TPM, mission statements, etc., that show they are racist. Else be known as a liar.

And your attempt to frighten people with the racist label won't work with me. I don't give a rats ass if you call me a racist. I don't care if every fringe liberal out there calls me a racist. It doesn't bother me one iota. I know what you -- a true racist -- are trying to do and I laugh at your weak, childish Alinsky attempts.

Your weak, worn out attempts at character assassination are pathetic. Racism is the last desperate sanctuary of the out of ammo liberals.



I offered links and bits of many independent news stories that condemn the tea party for being racist.
You can see if you can read, or you can judge by their activities, see in photos, determine by their behavior, actions and rhetoric, even their signs (in the beginning) this is an overwhelmingly white racist minority.
Former KKK Grand Wizard, David Duke - America's most famous racist is being petitioned to run as the Republican nominee for President by the Tea Party...

And now YOU are trying to BULLY ME - saying I am calling you racist??? OF ALL THE NERVE.

You are the type of person so deluded so convinced of your beliefs you will not let the facts get in the way.

On your high horse when behind this is some pathetic run to protect and hide behind the skirts of Israel.

You think your pitiful attempts to divide this country and tear America apart are going to be successful? You dislike Barack Obama because it appears he is going to hang Israel out to dry alone, where she belongs and by her actions DESERVES.

You don't care about America.
You are afraid one of her hateful neighbors is going to get an eraser and rub Israel off the map.
And you would let America be torn down the middle as long as it meant we would continue to send American troops to fight and die in the battles Israel starts.

Why don't you just start telling the truth?

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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by mishigas
My concern is the comments by Waters are so very divisive. How could she ever think that what she said would ever lead to productive discussion? She really is unworthy of serving the American public; she should be expelled from the House with great prejudice.


She won't be as she is a protected class, as in the upper class.

Her net worth in 2009 was around $1.5 million. So nothing will happen to her. She is one of the good ole boys. er...so to speak.

/TOA



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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The Tea Party Can Go Straight To Hell



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 04:22 AM
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I offered links and bits of many independent news stories that condemn the tea party for being racist.
You can see if you can read, or you can judge by their activities, see in photos, determine by their behavior, actions and rhetoric, even their signs (in the beginning) this is an overwhelmingly white racist minority.
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I asked for policy/mission statements from the TPM, not photos from overzealous members. Every party/PAC/grassroots has their fair share of nuts that are mere hangers-on, but do not represent the group as a whole.


Former KKK Grand Wizard, David Duke - America's most famous racist is being petitioned to run as the Republican nominee for President by the Tea Party..


Now that is a downright LIE. How can you think you will not be challenged when you say lies like this?

Give me a statement from the Tea Party Movement that endorses David Duke. Not some picture from some nutbag/infiltrator.


And now YOU are trying to BULLY ME - saying I am calling you racist??? OF ALL THE NERVE.


I am a proud member of the TPM. You say that the TPM is a racist organization; therefore, you are calling me a racist.


You are the type of person so deluded so convinced of your beliefs you will not let the facts get in the way.

On your high horse when behind this is some pathetic run to protect and hide behind the skirts of Israel.

You think your pitiful attempts to divide this country and tear America apart are going to be successful? You dislike Barack Obama because it appears he is going to hang Israel out to dry alone, where she belongs and by her actions DESERVES.

You don't care about America.
You are afraid one of her hateful neighbors is going to get an eraser and rub Israel off the map.
And you would let America be torn down the middle as long as it meant we would continue to send American troops to fight and die in the battles Israel starts.


Finally, it comes out. Give someone enough rope and eventually their true agenda will reveal itself and they will hang themself.

It is obvious that from the above statements you made that you are blatantly anti-Semitic. Not surprising, since anti-Semitism and racism are often matching members of a pair of gloves.


Why don't you just start telling the truth?


I have been, all along.
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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 04:34 AM
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You know, when you use terms like "ObaMoa", you are just confirming the fact that the tea party is run by a bunch of racist scumbags and worshiped by racist scumbags.

Care to try to prove me wrong?



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by mishigas
My concern is the comments by Waters are so very divisive. How could she ever think that what she said would ever lead to productive discussion? She really is unworthy of serving the American public; she should be expelled from the House with great prejudice.



She won't be as she is a protected class, as in the upper class.

Her net worth in 2009 was around $1.5 million. So nothing will happen to her. She is one of the good ole boys. er...so to speak.

/TOA


She's worse -- she is an unabashed racist.

Seriously, it is at times like this when I fear for our country. When our great Legislative body allows members to use their bully pulpit to spread divisive lies and doctrines that only destroy the fabric of our society, we are in danger of decaying into dust.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by 46ACE
No conservative teaparty member ever called themselves "teabaggers". I believe Jenene Garafalo started it as an insult: ( A reference to the the homosexual(?)act of "teabagging" ).What a better way to insult a bunch conservative (homophobic?) middle aged Americans than associating them with a form of sodomy.


With all due respect, that is absolute BULLPUCKY! Who are you trying to kid?







I'm Proud to be a Teabagger

Yesterday the WABC lead into Rush's show went something like this....

Volcano in Iceland - Tea-baggers in Washington --- what you'll be talking about all day...

Response to video
also containing such gems as

OMG! That Teabag BUKKAKE on the picture of Nancy P is priceless!

Whoever thought of that is a sheer Genuis!!!

Tell me all about disgusting.
Fox News Embraces Teabagger Label - response to above video

Why is Tea-bagger used as an insult?

I don't think that the term teabagger speaks to any specific sexual orientation.

If you consider yourself to be a teabagger, then you should be proud of the term and put a bumper sticker to that effect on your car. "Proud to be a teabagger". Or maybe, "I'm a teabagger. Care to join me?" Something along those lines.



"I'm a Teabagger" - courtesy of Southwest Louisiana Tea Party
I'm a Teabagger"
I'm A Teabagger and Proud of it!
Im a right winger and proud if it Facebook page
"Teabagger vs Teaparty Patriot - a history lesson
FreeRepublic-Rise of an epithet

And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was “Tea Bag the Fools in D.C.” A protester was spotted with a sign saying, “Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You.” So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology. But others ran with it and ran with it.
-Jay Nordlinger conservative columnist

www.teabagparty.org official logo

To make your objections heard in Washington, simply place a tea bag in an envelope along with a short and polite letter explaining your protest. Send it to your elected representatives in D.C.. You can find your representatives and their addresses by entering your zip code at the congress.gov website. You can also send a similar protest letter and tea bag to President Obama as well as the leaders and key committee chairs in the Senate and House. Ordinary first class mail letter postage will be sufficient. UPDATE: Some people have written in to say that there may be problems with a tea bag getting through security. You may want to just include the tag from the tea bag, an empty tea bag, or print out a picture of the tea bag. Feel free to use the flagged tea bag image on this website if you want.

Evolution of the word teabagger

The grassroots movement didn't always consider "tea bagger" a slur: Early Tea Partiers innocently embraced the term until they discovered its vulgar connotations (see also the 1998 John Waters movie Pecker). In a twist, some conservatives have recently advocated that the word be reclaimed. Here's a look at the evolution of the insult: -


I can do this for a while.


Believe me;It is quite offensive and disgusting.


I know but I did not start it. Tell me it is more disgusting and offensives than the aforementioned bukkake joke.


Added: Should we go around calling all "liberals": "rim jobs"????.Same level of school yard depravity..No it's not clever or one bit funny.


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As soon as you find me even one "liberal" that embraced that term for themself at any time, be sure to let me know. Now if you want to discuss this on a realistic and honest level that could be fun too. Facts are stubborn.
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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by centurion1211
Uh, leaders are and should be held to higher standards.

Of course they should. I guess I am just curious how much lower a standard you should be held to. Is saying things that you feel are hurtful only something leaders should not do? That still seems rather hypocritical to me. While certain people should be held to higher standards in certain things, no one should ever rape for instance.
So how low is the standard you expect to be held to compared to what you expect of Maxine?

However, the fact that you support Waters and obama shows that you have no understanding of that concept.

Right, because I said anything about supporting her. I simply noted the pile of blatant hypocrisy from the get go.

A kid might yell Fire! in a crowded room thinking it was funny, but an adult leader should never do such a thing.

So you should get to say "mean things" because you are a child?
I do not get how you fit children in there unless that is the standard to which you feel anyone not in elected office should be held. Children do all kinds of things. How does that excuse you?

So, having a member of congress fanning the race and class warfare flames (that so-called progressives love to promote) is the height of being irresponsible to both her constituents and the rest of US citizens.

I did not hear anything about race in there but I also do not really think what she said is any more inflaming or dangerous than the things I read on ATS from so called "teaparty" members about hanging people for treason or arming for violent overthrow.


And rather than accusing me of things I've never done and attempting to put words in my mouth I never said, stop skipping your spelling classes - the word is "steal", not "steel".


Wow, you got me on spelling. Good show. I am sure you have never spelled a word wrong, your grammar is perfect, and all that actually matters. Now what did I accuse you of again? Maybe I spelled a word wrong but at least I am not fabricating things to make my point up. That is two for you.



Pretty much.
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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:21 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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You know, when you use terms like "ObaMoa", you are just confirming the fact that the tea party is run by a bunch of racist scumbags and worshiped by racist scumbags.

Care to try to prove me wrong?


I think he meant to type ObaMao. As in Chairman Mao, which is not being racist, just calling Obama a Communist. How would "ObaMoa" be racist? I must be missing something.


/TOA



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by neo96



comment on "teabaggers"


now what was that thing i heard about oh now whats the word?

politically correct it was.

mental midgets was a most apt term but geared to the wrong people.


Please put this in your signature.
My main point here is the hypocrisy. If you want to say anyone that says anything derogatory or calls names is merely a mental midget then you and anyone that starred your post are going to have to change your style quite a bit. I hardly get my panties in a bunch when I see "libtard" all over the place and all the other horribly negative things people say about people they deem "progressives" or all the "left" or whatever.

If we want to be crybabies any time someone says something we do not like and we justify it by insulting them simply for saying it without even regard to position or power behind the words then it is going to be tough going forward for many.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by kozmo
Reading comprehension problem? I stated that the TPM was conservative/libertarian, not socialist and stupid; eg democrats!


Um...no you did not. How am I supposed to read something you did not write?

Let's look at your post again.

Originally posted by kozmo
100% INCORRECT! Just because the GOP attempted to hijack the movement, doesn't mean the movement has been hijacked. The establishment media has done their part and convinced the lot of you and your ilk to believe it has. The purpose, defang the very movement that threatens the establishment status quo. And a bunch of you took the bait; hhok, line and sinker.

Yeah um, you said no such thing so that is not my reading problem that is your writing problem.

Now what you DID actually say is that the TEA Party was NOT hijacked by the GOP. I asked you to list all the candidates they supported that were not Republicans. Is there a reason you can not do that?

How about you just explain. If it was not hijacked by the GOP then why is it that all the people they supported and then bragged about getting into office in 2010 were from the GOP? If not, then show me that list.

[quote[ What you continue to fail to grasp is that the old-school GOP establishment has NOT co-opted the TPM. Rather, they fear that the TPM is coopting the GOP, and it is.
This is purely your opinion and you have nothing to back it up with.

Did you not pay attention to the deficit ceiling negotiations and how the TPM forced the Republicans hand on the issue?

I sure did. Did you?

"I got 98% of what I wanted" - John Boehner"

Wow. Way to go. Who got the other 2% Obama or whatever imaginary politician you believe is teaparty affiliated?


If you truly understood politics then you would understand that the Dems and Repubs are the just different sides of the same coin. BOTH are scared out of their pants that the TPM is gaining ground with mainstream consciousness - and they have good cause to be alarmed.

If you understood reality you would notice that the so called teaparty has not achieved or gained anything that the Koch brothers have not wanted. Call it coincidence or whatever you like but the Koch brothers are all about old school establishment.

That being said, they've elicited help from the 4th pillar (the MSM) in an attempt to make democrats believe that the TPM is big scary old school GOP and to convince old school GOP that TPM is wild and crazy and out of control.

Show me that list I asked for and prove to me the media has it wrong.

It's a psyop - divide and conquer. Sadly, people who claim to have "Woken up" have bought into this tripe and cannot see the forest through the trees. Their psyop has worked. Just look at some of the posts regarding the TPM.

Yeah I see those people all over ATS. How many people are truly "awake" as they claim in the lizard people threads.

Now. I simply asked for a list. Instead I got a lengthy diatribe in response. Seems if there was any truth to what you said, that list would have been an amazing way to shut me right up.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
That of course was before the Tea Partiers who said it knew what it meant in "gay lexicon". I never heard it either till it was said in a movie and someone had to explain it to me. But whenever a lib says it, we know it's definitely meant as a slur.




Yes, I know all that. You are going to have to argue with everyone else now because you just said exactly what I have been saying. It is not my fault you guys did not know what it meant. That is no reason for people to lie and claim they never said it.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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lmao way to go Ace! Give em their own medicine! Oh yah and Anderson Cooper is who dubbed the TP Teabaggers. Just before he came out....
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Wow are you confused. You just posted...

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
That of course was before the Tea Partiers who said it knew what it meant in "gay lexicon". I never heard it either till it was said in a movie and someone had to explain it to me. But whenever a lib says it, we know it's definitely meant as a slur.


So you admit that they used it first before they knew what it meant but then go on to say it was Cooper that said it first. Then you add that about him coming out because well that matters.

This is why I have no problem with the term teabagger. In order to not be called one you give two different excuses.
"They did not know what it meant yet!"
"Anderson Cooper started it!"

Yeah it cannot be both.

Still looking for those proud to be a rim jobber articles from anyone on the left.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by centurion1211
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Seriously?

And you just completely made that up. That is kind of a big point. How can you seriously act like making things up about me to argue with me is no big deal?

Seriously??????? Who the hell does that? Can I make up things about you as well and just dismiss it when you call me on it as if it does not really matter that I made it up?


By being on this thread and attacking and/or arguing with everyone who is critical of Waters' actions as stated in the OP.

....what? By being in this thread and and/or "attacking"/arguing with everyone critical of waters what?
If you actually pay attention. I have not at all argued with "everyone critical of Waters' actions" Just the blatant hypocrites. Need me to explain the difference?


Maybe you can post some reasons why Waters promoting racial tensions and class warfare are actually good things for this country.

What race and class are the TEA-party?

If you are able to put together a rational argument for those things, maybe someone will react to you in a more positive way. However, continuously posting "shoot the messenger" attacks on other members for just not having the same beliefs as you won't get that done.

I am not really worried about how any of you react to me. I am using logic and facts. You are stretching the truth in order to win arguments that only exist in your imagination.

So I ask. What race and class is the "teaparty?"



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:50 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Can you imagine the outrage if the tea party members had told the Black caucus to go straight to hell?

OH the HUMANITY


Like who?
Aren't there any black people in the TEAparty?
Is the TP the opposite of the black caucus?
Is this really a race thing?
I did not know that teabaggers were specifically white. I was always told that was not true.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:53 AM
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Teabagging is not an exclusive homosexual fad.

Though I'm not surprised to see TPM supporters throw in a little gay-bashing along with their racism.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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Teabagging is not an exclusive homosexual fad.

Though I'm not surprised to see TPM supporters throw in a little gay-bashing along with their racism.


I found that part odd myself. It seems like some latent homophobia bubbling to the surface. Not that all the teabaggers are homophobes, just the ones that immediately think of gay sex when they hear that term.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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I think that the progs use the term "teabagger" in the same sick way that others use the term "n****r".
It's mean, ill-spirited, nasty, petty, small-minded, and they can get away with it.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Tea Party
Corporations
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people
my
friend
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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Janky Red
The Tea Party Can Go Straight To Hell


Democrats can go straight to nothingness. They are the true enemy.

Also, you all know "tea bagging" is most commonly known as a video game insult, right? You beat someone in a first person shooter and you squat over their corpse.


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