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posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:02 AM
There have been several articles written on the sudden and mysterious deaths of many of the worlds leading microbiologists after 911. When I came across this most recent one, I wondered whether other leading scientists have recently died? Any thoughts?

Head of Dolly clone lab is found hanged

THE head of the science lab which created Dolly the sheep has been found hanging in his holiday home.

Professor John Clark, who was believed to have been suffering from depression was found in his remote cottage in the village of Cove, north of Eyemouth, on the Berwickshire coast.

Prof Clark lead the Roslin Institute in Midlothian, one of the worlds leading animal biotechnology research centres.

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:08 AM
Looks like they wanna clean something up... ?!?!?!?

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:13 AM

Originally posted by loam
There have been several articles written on the sudden and mysterious deaths of many of the worlds leading microbiologists after 911.

Could you help us with some links? Are you the only person to link these events?

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:17 AM
Didn't the UK, just give human cloning the go ahead?

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:23 AM
This is a very well documented case if you know where to look. A good spot to look would be @Open-Content project
Doesn't look like the sight has been updated with any current reports. A meta search might help you find what you need.

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:26 AM
loam: Brings up a very interesting idea as to the word lingo that has developed post 911, as compared to what was used pre-911.

sebastiaan: nice idea, but only a dead end.

GradyPhilpott: loam the only person to link these events. lol Anything of a bad nature can be in some way be linked to 911. 911 is a hot topic which people can use to back up their opinion. Anything involving mass killings can be directly linked to Hitler or most recently Milosevich. Once those ideas get old people start to relate to 911.

No relation what so ever to 911. The work of animal rights activistists. I sense that 911 seems to be a hot topic, as phrases like "terroristic threats" and "Al-Qaeda" have become hip words in the eyes of teenagers. Not to forget "Islam" seen as many ignorant people to be the religion of terror as of 911.

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:28 AM
Yep i have heard of this trend too, lets try to compile a list here.

There is of course the David Kelly incident in the UK. Alledgedly he committed suicide, but if you believe that... [ /

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:29 AM
Here is just one example..... There are many others....

Scientists' deaths are under the microscope



Saturday, May 4, 2002 Print Edition, Page A1

It's a tale only the best conspiracy theorist could dream up.

Eleven microbiologists mysteriously dead over the span of just five months. Some of them world leaders in developing weapons-grade biological plagues. Others the best in figuring out how to stop millions from dying because of biological weapons. Still others, experts in the theory of bioterrorism.

Throw in a few Russian defectors, a few nervy U.S. biotech companies, a deranged assassin or two, a bit of Elvis, a couple of Satanists, a subtle hint of espionage, a big whack of imagination, and the plot is complete, if a bit reminiscent of James Bond.

The first three died in the space of just over a week in November. Benito Que, 52, was an expert in infectious diseases and cellular biology at the Miami Medical School. Police originally suspected that he had been beaten on Nov. 12 in a carjacking in the medical school's parking lot. Strangely enough, though, his body showed no signs of a beating. Doctors then began to suspect a stroke.

Just four days after Dr. Que fell unconscious came the mysterious disappearance of Don Wiley, 57, one of the foremost microbiologists in the United States. Dr. Wiley, of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute at Harvard University, was an expert on how the immune system responds to viral attacks such as the classic doomsday plagues of HIV, ebola and influenza.

He had just bought tickets to take his son to Graceland the following day. Police found his rental car on a bridge outside Memphis, Tenn. His body was later found in the Mississippi River. Forensic experts said he may have had a dizzy spell and have fallen off the bridge.

Just five days after that, the world-class microbiologist and high-profile Russian defector Valdimir Pasechnik, 64, fell dead. The pathologist who did the autopsy, and who also happened to be associated with Britain's spy agency, concluded he died of a stroke.

Dr. Pasechnik, who defected to the United Kingdom in 1989, played a huge role in Russian biowarfare and helped to figure out how to modify cruise missiles to deliver the agents of mass biological destruction.

The next two deaths came four days apart in December. Robert Schwartz, 57, was stabbed and slashed with what police believe was a sword in his farmhouse in Leesberg, Va. His daughter, who identifies herself as a pagan high priestess, and several of her fellow pagans have been charged.

Dr. Schwartz was an expert in DNA sequencing and pathogenic micro-organisms, who worked at the Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon, Va.

Four days later, Nguyen Van Set, 44, died at work in Geelong, Australia, in a laboratory accident. He entered an airlocked storage lab and died from exposure to nitrogen. Other scientists at the animal diseases facility of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization had just come to fame for discovering a virulent strain of mousepox, which could be modified to affect smallpox.

Then in February, the Russian microbiologist Victor Korshunov, 56, an expert in intestinal bacteria of children around the world, was bashed over the head near his home in Moscow. Five days later the British microbiologist Ian Langford, 40, was found dead in his home near Norwich, England, naked from the waist down and wedged under a chair. He was an expert in environmental risks and disease.

Two weeks later, two prominent microbiologists died in San Francisco. Tanya Holzmayer, 46, a Russian who moved to the U.S. in 1989, focused on the part of the human molecular structure that could be affected best by medicine.

She was killed by fellow microbiologist Guyang (Matthew) Huang, 38, who shot her seven times when she opened the door to a pizza delivery. Then he shot himself.

The final two deaths came one day after the other in March. David Wynn-Williams, 55, a respected astrobiologist with the British Antarctic Survey, who studied the habits of microbes that might survive in outer space, died in a freak road accident near his home in Cambridge, England. He was hit by a car while he was jogging.

The following day, Steven Mostow, 63, known as Dr. Flu for his expertise in treating influenza, and a noted expert in bioterrorism, died when the airplane he was piloting crashed near Denver.

So what does any of it mean?

"Statistically, what are the chances?" wondered a prominent North American microbiologist reached last night at an international meeting of infectious-disease specialists in Chicago.

Janet Shoemaker, director of public and scientific affairs of the American Society for Microbiology in Washington, D.C., pointed out yesterday that there are about 20,000 academic researchers in microbiology in the U.S. Still, not all of these are of the elevated calibre of those recently deceased.

She had a chilling, final thought. When microbiologists die in a lab, there's a way of taking note of the deaths and adding them up. When they die in freakish accidents outside the lab, nobody keeps track.

Suspicious deaths

The sudden and suspicious deaths of 11 of the world's leading microbiologists.

Who they were:

1. Nov. 12, 2001:

Benito Que was said to have been beaten in a Miami parking lot and died later.

2. Nov. 16, 2001:

Don C. Wiley went missing. Was found Dec. 20. Investigators said he got dizzy on a Memphis bridge and fell to his death in a river.

3. Nov. 21, 2001:

Vladimir Pasechnik, former high-level Russian microbiologist who defected in 1989 to the U.K. apparently died from a stroke.

4. Dec. 10, 2001:

Robert M. Schwartz was stabbed to death in Leesberg, Va. Three Satanists have been arrested.

5. Dec. 14, 2001:

Nguyen Van Set died in an airlock filled with nitrogen in his lab in Geelong, Australia.

6. Feb. 9, 2002:

Victor Korshunov had his head bashed in near his home in Moscow.

7. Feb. 14, 2002:

Ian Langford was found partially naked and wedged under a chair in Norwich, England.

8. 9. Feb. 28, 2002:

San Francisco resident Tanya Holzmayer was killed by a microbiologist colleague, Guyang Huang, who shot her as she took delivery of a pizza and then apparently shot himself.

10. March 24, 2002:

David Wynn-Williams died in a road accident near his home in Cambridge, England.

11. March 25, 2002:

Steven Mostow of the Colorado Health Sciences Centre, killed in a plane he was flying near Denver.

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:32 AM

Originally posted by Corinthas
Yep i have heard of this trend too, lets try to compile a list here.

I like the idea of compiling a list....It should include the name, field of study, location, manner of death, date of death, and source. Anything else?

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:37 AM
OK.. David Kelly's the obvious one, and I KNOW there's been at least one other death between this one and that of one of the world's top pathologists (I think).. But I can't remember who it was (and google isn't returning much without the name)... anyone remember it? I think this is truly freaky stuff.

EDIT: Didn't notice we've begun a list of all the deaths (missed the last few posts).... will try to find stuff to contribute!

-koji K.

[edit on 20-8-2004 by koji_K]

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:39 AM

Originally posted by websurfer

No relation what so ever to 911.

I referenced 911 as an indicator of time only, not as a possible connection. I remain neutral as to whether these events are linked, however tenuously, to the events of 911. I am more interested in understanding *if* and *why* there is an unusual upswing in the number of deaths of leading scientists. A matter worth investigating IMHO.

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 01:55 AM
Does anyone know if there are deaths leading up to 9/11? Basically who in that field died prior to 2001.

If any of you are interested in participating in some research u2u me.

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 02:07 AM

The above is the most up to date site that I know of and it has not yet listed John Clark's suspicious incident. According to his new promotion and three offshoot companies I find it difficult to accept he was depressed. And no one hangs themselves unless they are in jail.

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 02:09 AM
OK, so the answer is YES..

The UK gave Scientists the go ahead for human cloning this month.

Here is the story.

Yes to Cloning in the UK

And another link.
Cloning OK in the UK

[edit on 20-8-2004 by spacedoubt]

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 07:11 AM
this article covers several of the different dead or missing scientists.

NEWS BRIEF: "Israeli biological and nuclear scientists being knocked off in covert war", email by Barry Chamish, 12/5/2001.

"Israeli biological and nuclear scientists are being knocked off one by one and this covert war is going unnoticed. A plane carrying scientists to Russia's biological warfare center at Novosibirsk was blown up over the Black Sea and no one questions that the Ukrainian missile that supposedly did the job was a hundred miles out of range.

"Then a Swissair Corsair crashes killing the head of Ichilov Hospital's Hematology department, as well as directors of the Hebrew University School Of Medicine and the Tel Aviv Public Health Department and not a word of suspicion is raised.

"After that, one of the country's most prominent nuclear scientist, Baruch Zinger,is assassinated and still, no one is putting the pieces together. Your front line against nuclear and biological attacks is being picked off in a covert murder campaign and your government is taking no security precautions to stop the intellectual slaughter ..."

At a time when our newspapers are full of dire warnings of possible imminent terrorist attacks using biological and/or chemical weapons, we would need the best minds possible standing ready to direct a response that would save lives. If you have ever watched a movie in which the plot is infectious disease, you will notice that authorities immediately contact the most influential and cutting-edge medical scientists. These top scientists usually become the star of the movie.

Israel is a small nation, so the sudden loss of so many of their top biological and nuclear scientists is devastating. However, were it not for Barry Chamish, we would never have known about this sudden loss of scientists trained in this particular area of expertise in biological and nuclear weapons.


[edit on 20-8-2004 by Watchman77]

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 07:14 AM
Cant don stem-cell research if all the scientist are dead. Seems very fishy, maybe he was on the "lamb".

posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 07:27 AM
Amazing, several thousands scientists all around the world and some of them commit suicide.
How strange. Just think of the great pleasure in their job - 20h shifts, 7 days a week. Stressed to the max. Doomed for perfection.

What a weired thing that this could actually lead to depression and result in suicide

People, # happens. Accept reality and deny all those "i need a conspiracy to take care of because my life is so boring" actions, thanks.

posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 11:07 PM
It would be interesting to see if any of these students were in scientific fields of study....

NYU student jumps to her death from university building; 6th this year

Deceased sophomore identified, Sept. 6

Woman found dead in fraternity

Young woman's death rattles McGill campus
19-year-old student found in dorm room Police find no trace of violence at scene, await autopsy results to determine cause

[edit on 6-9-2004 by loam]

posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 11:25 PM
If anyone is interested I'll post web site
URLs about the time lines of documented
NWO depopulation programs.
The "conspiracy" theory is that the
scientists are being removed because they
might interfere with the plans. Much of the
information has been removed, but some
of it is still available. The techniques
discussed are of course biological.
Those don't destroy the manufacturing
infrastructure of the world.

True or not? You be the judge.

[edit on 6-9-2004 by mockan]

posted on Sep, 10 2004 @ 06:33 AM
That one mother of a list there loam (very earthy name btw like it) in that article you posted.

Anyone see a pattern?

About the list i have no more names to add i am afraid

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