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Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
reply to post by Iwinder
They are dropping green?
There's no change ON the tree they just drop, or the change is quick (like days) and they drop?
Do you show buds in place for next season?
Originally posted by sumgai
reply to post by Iwinder
I'm just outside Toronto.
Haven't seen anything that strange, but will keep my eyes open for anything out of the ordinary.
Originally posted by WitsEndNJ
Greetings all I am dropping in because a while back on the thread somebody mentioned my blog, witsendnj.
I am in a sad way rather thrilled that you have all noticed that vegetation is not behaving normally, because that is what I have noticed myself, beginning in 2008.
What I saw then was an abrupt and bizarre wilting of leaves on trees. As a life-long gardener and tree lover, this caused me great concern and so I began to search for any information I could find. For quite a while I was convinced that it was a result of long-term warmer and drier conditions (or more erratic, infrequent but heavier precipitation) from climate change...and I still do feel that eventually, that will likely doom our trees.
However, a number of empirical factual observations made that explanation premature. Something else is going on.
Along those lines, keep in mind these empirical facts:
1. There is a general, universal trend towards tree decline. All ages, all species, all locations.
2. There has been an enormous amount of scientific research that is largely ignored, which indicates that plants are even more sensitive than people are to air pollution. And only idiots deny that air pollution causes fatal conditions like cancer, emphysema, and heart disease, never mind is linked to asthma, allergies, ADHD, autism and diabetes. So imagine how the poor plants are faring.
3. Ozone damages foliage in very specific, visible ways (and also damages plants before this is obvious). Leaves are stippled, stomates that absorb ozone cannot produce chlorophyll so the leaves lose color, veins become pronounced, eventually they curl and shrivel up and turn brown...they can also turn fall color early. Pine needles turn yellow and the older, inner ones fall off.
4. Just like a person whose immune system is damaged by AIDS and they die from cancer or pneumonia, a tree with a compromised immune system (and they do have them!) is more vulnerable to attacks from insects, disease (bacteria), fungus. Because they are working overtime to produce more foliage, and also to produce more seeds, cones, and nuts in a desperate effort to reproduce, they allocate less energy to their roots and so are more likely to blow over in wind.
5. Those cankers someone noticed are the same as cancerous tumors in people. They kill the tree.
6. Most professional foresters, government regulators and of course lobbyists for energy industry will do anything to deny and bury this information...and most people let them - because the only solution is to stop burning oil and gas for energy, conserve like crazy, and switch to clean sources on an emergency basis.
Anything else is not going to save us from ultimately, ecosystem collapse. Remember that most trees would live for HUNDREDS of years absent human impacts. It is NOT normal for them to be dropping leaves, having branches break off, or fall over.
Oh, and it's also well established by the experts that BILLIONS of dollars are lost every year in agriculture from crop yield and quality stunted by exposure to ozone.
It's hard to imagine, I know. I had a hard time (to put it mildly) as I learned about this. Consider...you know that if you go in a garage and shut the door and leave the car running you are going to die of exposure to carbon monoxide. You can't see it or smell it - but then, you can't see or smell oxygen and you know you breathe it, right?
Well, the earth is like a giant, closed garage, and we've been running engines and emitting volatile organic compounds never seen in earth's history before the industrial revolution and the level of toxic tropospheric ozone is building up and up...and the trees and plants are being suffocated.
It's a big problem and it is going to take a huge change in course to fix. But the alternative is famine.
Anyone who wants to talk to me about this is welcome to email witsendnj at yahoo
And thanks for reading.
Originally posted by DunkdaMonk
From new york I am, and everyone I've been talking to is noticing all of the acorns are falling prematurely.
They are little tiny baby acorns, and my entire property is covered in them.
Never seen anything like this before, and neither has my fellow new yorkers.
Originally posted by karendva
Hey OP - I live in Tennessee and a few weeks ago in Knoxville - I noticed the maple across the street turned yellow, and has dropped about 30 percent of the yellow leaves. My b/f noticed it two weeks ago and said how odd it was. I about forgot about it till tonight - seeing this post. Glad it isn't just our tree - but worried that so many are doing this. Our color changes usually last for a while, and certainly not this early. Thanks for the heads up.
Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR
its the same here in the UK
my grape vine in my back garden is turning purple, never seen that before so it maybe a a nut problem not sure, the leafs are dropping on all trees too, looks like an early /very early fall is in full swing
Originally posted by Hr2burn
I would guess it's the silent killer......radiation! Do we really expect to see no issues in North America, or though out the world for that matter?