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For Christ's sake, stop blaming Obama for everything under the sun!

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posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by PSYCORE
We just need more brainless 1 liner slogans...

YES WE CAN!!! (bailout the banks... )
YES WE CAN!!! (bailout General Motors... in which the CEO gets a 9M pay package)
YES WE CAN!!! (rushed a trillion dollar stimulus bill through)
YES WE CAN!!! (send 17,000 more troops to Afghanistan...)
YES WE CAN!!! (Increase the debt ceiling...)


Finally a word of thank you to all the cooperation that supported Obama
Goldman Sachs, Microsoft, Exxon Mobil, General Electric, Google, Lehman Brothers


P.S: If Ron Paul ever does get elected, I can almost picture a JFK scenario to some degree being discussed in a dimly lit room filled with cigarette smoke...




I'm convinced that if Ron Paul gets elected we'll see that what myself and others has been saying is true. The President is not the leader we tout them as being. As someone said, they can merely make suggestions and recommendations. If Congress isn't on board with them, what good is that.

So follow me...Even if Obama had all the answers and suggested them...being that he had to deal with a GOP who's slogan was "Obama must be stopped at any cost".....how could he have been successful?

1. Obama recommends something to possibly make the country better.
2. The GOP (Party of NO) and some democrats, are intent on Obama falling on his face so they say NOOOO!
3. Obama since he can't get anything he wants done, settles for what Congress returns to him (ie., obamacare).

How is anything Obama's specific fault?




posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by Surfrat
Largest deficit ever.


Why was the expense of war not included in Bush's expenses?

Why is Bush not credited with the expense of "his" war?



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by PSYCORE
We just need more brainless 1 liner slogans...

YES WE CAN!!! (bailout the banks... )

Bush


YES WE CAN!!! (bailout General Motors... in which the CEO gets a 9M pay package)

Not concerned about this much, If we can bail out wall street, we can help out a manufacturing job also that employs middle class...socialism isn't just for the wealthy.


YES WE CAN!!! (rushed a trillion dollar stimulus bill through)

I disagree with this also, those tax breaks weren't needed


YES WE CAN!!! (send 17,000 more troops to Afghanistan...)

That was a campaign promise...yes we did refocus back in on Afghanistan.


YES WE CAN!!! (Increase the debt ceiling...)

Done over a hundred times before...whats the problem?



Finally a word of thank you to all the cooperation that supported Obama
Goldman Sachs, Microsoft, Exxon Mobil, General Electric, Google, Lehman Brothers

Now list the endless conservative organizations giving tons of support to the right...bet your list will be very impressive.




P.S: If Ron Paul ever does get elected, I can almost picture a JFK scenario to some degree being discussed in a dimly lit room filled with cigarette smoke...

He is goign to try and get with Marlyn Monroe? probably Lady Gaga (trying to equate it)

I always laugh when the other side for some reason shakes their fist at the Afghanistan thing...he was very clear on how he will shift things back to where it started verses iraq...he neverr ever said he would end it actually..although he should now considering the main objective is done. Train up the police and leave..no more battlefield operations.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Surfrat
Largest deficit ever.


Why was the expense of war not included in Bush's expenses?

Why is Bush not credited with the expense of "his" war?


Exactly! Bush waged war for the better part of 7 years. While he was in office, not one dime of those trillions spent on war were ever recorded as part of the deficit. GWB conveniently kept those off the books, as if they were going to pay for themselves.

When Obama was running for office, he promised that those war debts would be counted and included; as they should have been all along. So, Obama adds those outstanding debts and what happens? He get's the blame.




posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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*YAwn*

So the elected leader of the United States of America, has no real power power to lead?


I probably took what you said out of context...

Well, lets wash away all the BS surrounding these debates.
The bottom line....

Fact: He promised change.
Conclusion: Yes, things are worst.

Fact: He has a great smile.
Conclusion: You voted for that smile.

Fact: He says great things.
Conclusion: You voted for those things.


YES WE CAN!!! maybe... depending... what does the other parties say?
edit on 22-8-2011 by PSYCORE because: needed moar sarcasm!



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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Being President of this country is a lose-lose job.... There isnt a single person (or cabinet) in this country who can turn around this mess in a 4 year term. I question why anyone would want this job, talk about taking years off your life....



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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Obama is in way over his head. He should resign ASAP.
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Give Joe Biden a chance.
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Obama can't run on his disastrous record. All that leaves is class warfare ads on the TV for the
next 15 months. Isn't that just wonderful.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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For Christ's sake stop saying For Christ's sake



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Would it be OK if we blame Obama for what he is responsible for? Would it not in fact be irresponsible not to?

A Ron Paul supporter who defends Obama in the exact same method as an Obama supporter would? Seems a bit odd to me? If you support Paul, you are opposed to pretty much everything about Obama or you are not a Paul supporter?

Is this the new tactic? Will we find similar posts all over the Internet over the next couple of days? Lately when a tactic shows up on one board, it shows up everywhere, which is more than suspicious.

Anyway, my problems with Obama is his complete inability to lead Congress. His total lack of leadership is the worst in my memory which starts with JFK as evidenced by the fact that when he and his Party had complete control of everything for two years, he could not even pass a Budget and in fact still has not. You aware the law requires that a Budget be passed and that they are in violation of the law?

I'm also troubled by:

-The insane spending.

-The buying of Unions and Votes.

-The handouts to the Banks.

-The failure to dissolve Fannie and Freddie.

-The failure to address the countries Infrastructure.

-The phony attempt to pass Cap and Trade to make his big contributors, who just happen to own the Chicago Carbon Exchange rich beyond their wildest dreams.

-The handouts to GE, the largest company on earth that is moving all their jobs to other countries, makes many billions in profits and pays zero taxes thanks to loopholes created by Obama's Party.

-The fact that GE's CEO was appointed Obama's chief economic adviser while he still controlled NBC News and only sold off NBC months afterward in response to the warranted criticism.

-The fact he broke his promise of openness and transparency in such an in your face way.

I could go on, but my fingers grow weary and what's the point. Obama supporters are aware of his broken promises, lies and how he buys votes and takes advantage of the illiterate and young.

Oh, and by the way, this is a Board where we debate issues. Why would you want to stop debate on a Board that exists expressly for that purpose? Obama has his own sites.


edit on 8/22/2011 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Kitilani
People like you make me sad.


Ditto.



Do you really believe that the moment Bush left office, his impact on the country went with him?


Bush didn't create the housing bubble or the tech bubble, Clinton did. So, by your logic this is all Clinton's fault.



When FOX News still blames Clinton for things, I do not blow a gasket because I understand that presidents make impacts far outlasting their term in office. When FOX news blames Clinton still and then says "DO NOT BLAME BUSH FOR ANYTHING" it is a different story.


That doesnt happen and you know it.


You can blame Obama for all kinds of things but to blame him for everything is at your own peril.


at my own peril? What does that say about these forums and the media that continue to blame Bush for everything? We went through 8 years of non-stop Bush fear mongering and now you want the rules to change.


Just look at the TEA party. They are so mad at Obama for what BUSH did just before he left office that they cannot wait to elect another Bush.


No you're just making # up.


That is what happens when you blame Obama for things Bush did. Good luck with that.


Bush never once blamed Clinton for anything. Even though he easily could have since Bush had warned about the housing bubble before he was even elected. No, Bush took the high road on taking blame.


Bush signed TARP.
OBAMA IS EVIL BECAUSE OF TARP!

What in the world are you talking about? I've never once heard someone blame Obama for TARP. They do blame Obama for the trillion dollar failed "stimulus".

Face it, you're just making excuse for the guy you voted for.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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"Give Obama a break"


David Frum ....special assistant to President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2002, ... author of six books, including "Comeback: Conservatism That Can Win Again"

www.cnn.com...


How do you score partisan points against a president who looks to have won a military victory in Libya at very low cost?

Simple: Attack him for being away from Washington at a summer house when the victory was won.

That line of attack was tested by some Republican talkers and bloggers this weekend.
I wonder if we'll hear more of it in the coming days.

Almost nothing in American politics drives more people to say more ridiculous things than the subject of presidential summer vacations.

Back during the George W. Bush years, Democrats sneered and scoffed at the 43rd president's extended visits to his Crawford, Texas, ranch. Where was the guy's work ethic? Now the shoe is on the other foot....


This was a really good story. I link to it here because I think David Frum makes a lot of good points applicable to this thread. In fact I don't think I can watch the news anymore without associating it with one of the ongoing ATS threads.
Sad really...



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by SeventhSeal

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
If you don't like the Obama bashing here, why don't you try a different site. Like maybe Huffington Post. There you'll get the coddling Obama opinions that align more closely with your own. Good luck!


Lol, really? If we don't make up lies, rumors, or scandals about the President, WE should find another site?



Glad to know the haters want us silenced.



The name-calling is getting really old. It only serves to highlight your ignorance.


I don't think I called anyone names. Oh you mean "haters" don't you? Last time I checked, the haters are...well, haters.

Also, you're one to speak.

Enough with the direct attacking though. Focus on the thread's topic: People who think Obama is from Kenya and is determined to destroy AMURRRRRIKKKA are silly.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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-The insane spending. -The buying of Unions and Votes. -The handouts to the Banks. -The failure to dissolve Fannie and Freddie. -The failure to address the countries Infrastructure. -The phony attempt to pass Cap and Trade to make his big contributors, who just happen to own the Chicago Carbon Exchange rich beyond their wildest dreams. -The handouts to GE, the largest company on earth that is moving all their jobs to other countries, makes many billions in profits and pays zero taxes thanks to loopholes created by Obama's Party. -The fact that GE's CEO was appointed Obama's chief economic adviser while he still controlled NBC News and only sold off NBC months afterward in response to the warranted criticism. -The fact he broke his promise of openness and transparency in such an in your face way.

I am going to make this my new daily prayer...

Amen!
edit on 22-8-2011 by PSYCORE because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by alexbassguy
 


Anyway, my problems with Obama is his complete inability to lead Congress


edit on 8/22/2011 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)


Bit difficult when you have Congress ran by children who tan too much.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by SeventhSeal

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by alexbassguy
 


Anyway, my problems with Obama is his complete inability to lead Congress


edit on 8/22/2011 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)


Bit difficult when you have Congress ran by children who tan too much.







Sorry, I couldn't resist...I've been waiting to use that pic.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:05 PM
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I don't completely disagree with you.. it's true that there are a lot of other 'cooks in the kitchen', so it's probably not accurate to always blame him so much. However, I think it derives from a feeling of knowing what he could be. And certainly, many people were convinced he would be. Though the president doesn't have all the power (just yet, anyways, thank god), he could absolutely follow through with a lot of the main campaign promises he made.

Here's a quote from you about the wars...
"he didn't start them, and he can't very well just suddenly drop two military engagements, can he?"

Here's a quote from Obama about the wars (circa 2007)
“I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am President, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank. “

So apparently he did think the wars were something he could 'just suddenly drop', and many, many people voted for him based largely on this type of promise.

RonniePaul2012



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Lets bring back Bill Clinton for a 3rd term, at least you know we would have a balanced budget again....



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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Bush

Yes he is the only president that defines stupid & evil within a dictionary...




Not concerned about this much, If we can bail out wall street, we can help out a manufacturing job also that employs middle class...socialism isn't just for the wealthy.


Yes two wrongs makes a right...errr... right?
You are good, are you a politician?



Now list the endless conservative organizations giving tons of support to the right...bet your list will be very impressive.

True, nothing to see here, move along....




He is goign to try and get with Marlyn Monroe? probably Lady Gaga (trying to equate it)


Lady Gaga = Marlyn Monroe..... This is a so NO DON'T GO THERE.
WRONG! BIG X! FAIL! BAD! GO TO JAIL! DO NOT POST ANYMORE!



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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In the end is laying the blame on anyone going to fix the problem? Obama is just a puppet put their to make you believe you are living in a free nation. Blaming him is the lazy persons way of masking the true problems. He was put there for you to blame. "It's all your fault, you fix it Obama, and it better be fixed by the time the next comericial break is over." As long as there is someone to blame that person will never realize their individual power to change the world for the better it will always be their fault in that persons mind.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by bacci0909
I don't completely disagree with you.. it's true that there are a lot of other 'cooks in the kitchen', so it's probably not accurate to always blame him so much. However, I think it derives from a feeling of knowing what he could be. And certainly, many people were convinced he would be. Though the president doesn't have all the power (just yet, anyways, thank god), he could absolutely follow through with a lot of the main campaign promises he made.

Here's a quote from you about the wars...
"he didn't start them, and he can't very well just suddenly drop two military engagements, can he?"

Here's a quote from Obama about the wars (circa 2007)
“I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am President, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank. “



So apparently he did think the wars were something he could 'just suddenly drop', and many, many people voted for him based largely on this type of promise.

RonniePaul2012


Obama literally took that to the banks!
however the words became:
"$ $$$$ $$$$$$$ $$$ $$$$, $$$$ $$ $$ $$$$ $$$ $$$$$$ $$$ $$$$$$ $$$ $$ $$$ $$$$ $ $$ $$$$$$$$$, $$ $$ $$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $ $$$$ $$. $ $$$$ $$$ $$$ $$$$$$ $$$$. $$ $$$$ $$$$$ $$ $$$ $$ $$$$ $$$."

YES WE CAN!!!!
edit on 22-8-2011 by PSYCORE because: YES WE CAN!!!!



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