reply to post by lonewolf19792000
I've heard that the redeemed here will come from the 12 tribes.
Since Christianity started as a sect within Judaism, I'm not sure whether this includes Christians or Jewish converts, or what were called the "God
fearers" (gentiles who attended early church services, but they were not willing to undergo painful adult circumcision or follow the dietary laws,
until the apostles changed Christian law to accommodate them).
The verse is much debated and interpreted differently amongst the various sects.
I recall faintly that the Jehovah's Witnesses believe these are the only believers who will go to heaven as a kind of administration (I speak under
correction) while the believing men who consort with females will remain with them on an earthly paradise.
The concept that women defile men and their spirituality is key to the Pauline Doctrine.
OT polygamy is reduced to one wife as a compromise for those who would otherwise "burn with lust".
However, it's considered second best and not ideal to have a wife, and those who are loose from a wife upon entering the sect should not take one.
Otherwise the verse is quite clear: they are men undefiled
It literally says women are a defiling element on men.
But that's nothing new considering that Eve was at first weak-willed and tempted Adam, and got everyone evicted from Eden. Adam was not deceived, but
woman was in transgression, and hence women should be modest, shut their mouths and gain salvation through bearing children (1 Timothy 2:9-15).
Since the men are virgins they have not given in to any lust, although it doesn't say they haven't felt it (although I personally think it refers to
It's quite amusing, because current streams in Christianity will claim to take all kinds of verses as inerrant and literal. But when it comes to this
verse they come up with all kinds of reasons not to take it literally since virtually none of the Protestant men practice the celibacy advised by St.
Paul, and they don't want to draw attention to the fact that they are a lower class of believer.
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