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Originally posted by JibbyJedi
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by paraphi
A core of Icke followers have such a depressing view of reality that his stuff appeals to their beliefs. They actively engage in ideas that powerful people are doing the unspeakable to babies and that the skies are full of chemtrails poisoning them to death in an evil master-plan. They've reduced the world to bad fiction with omnipotent villains making soap-opera schemes to rule the world.
I think they find some weird comfort in this world-view because nothing can shake them from it.
First off, delete the word "follower" because you just blindly stereotyping anyone who "agrees" with at least "most" of what he says.
I form my own opinions, as do 90% of people you never hear statistics about, because they don't participate in statistics. It's like saying unemployment is 9%, but not accounting for those whose payments ran out, those who haven't applied, those who stopped looking, the disabled, and basically anyone not registered into their system. Their numbers are so ridiculous, but I can't help comparing the people who stereotype Alex Jones, David Icke, Terrence McKenna, Michael Tsarion, etc. or anyone they "listen to" frequently. Listen to, and follow are two different things you need to separate before you fuse reality with fantasy.
David Icke is a good guy, if I'm wrong I'll stand here for the ridicule.
But NO ONE ever seems to grasp that it is not DAVID who is claiming reptilians exist, he is telling what he has been told by others, and his opinion is based on THAT. Not too many people have an attention span beyond 30 seconds these days.... if you don't believe me, take a walk outside in the USA and talk to ANYONE.
edit on 21-8-2011 by JibbyJedi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Robert Reynolds
reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow
I'm assuming from your name that you believe Zeitgeist to be credible, in which case - and I genuinely mean no offence - but I don't really trust your judgement on these matters.
As a fan of his - if fan is the right word - could you tell me does he have any plans to combat this situation that so outrages him?
Right on! And. . .David goes there. I imagine certain Reptilian blood, especifically any of the NWO persuasion, no matter the level of awareness (including lower leuels of the dumbed down and mind-shafted), are NOT going to warm up to David Icke. Well maybe after the matrix and eyes have been opened to the illusion that has been manufactured by the manevalent Illuminati that team with andor inhabit the manevalent Reptoid, who then genetically integrates the Human form (its the illuminated ones that shapeshift). Anyway ggood for Mr. Icke. I have much respect and appreciation for him. Davids got brains and balls. We need more leaders like David Icke. I discern that he is being guarded by the good guys. I just hope some leader-seed germinates and grows from David`s students.
Originally posted by ParanoidSmurf
Icke is a good, decent and sincere bloke.If you think he's a disinfo guy or talking crap you really have not done your research or you are willingly ignorant.Whatever the case I really can't be bothered with you snidey, bickering cowards anymore.You people are a problem and your holding back the decent people who deserve a better world.
Originally posted by Heartisblack
David Icke.........doesn't even have words to describe his brand of crazy. I was with him till he gets to the reptile people. I'm done. Everything makes sense except the reptile people, I understand him to a point but I have got to ask.
Is this dude smoking something ? Because whatever he's smoking, I don't want any. He is just too, too much.edit on 21-8-2011 by Heartisblack because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by l_e_cox
However: The great majority of these personalities have been told basically the same story, many parts of which have been supported by others with direct experiences of one sort or another.
So while the exact (and some very crucial) details remain unclear, the general situation seems to be roughly as he (and numerous others) state it to be.
Reptilians: These beings have been sighted or experienced by numerous witnesses across the planet. They are more than just a fairy tale.
Exactly. And I`ve noticed that the blood thirsty and energy hungry don`t mind exposing their prey to degridation, perversions, humiliation, intimidation, spiritual and emotional manipulation, isolation, financial and physical imprisonment, bribery, horror, and the list goes on. Oh, but don`t expose them. . . Or else? Or else what??? They`ll keep doing what they`ve been doing for hundreds of years? Oooooo. The dark Freemason Illuminati don`t practice morality. It`s about territory, politics and control. They, the Alien Weed, are determined to completely assimulateconsume this Earth and this solar system and thls Universe, our reality, at minimum costs to themselves but maximum costs to the "Human herd". Oh, and it wouldn`t surprise me if there really are thousands of Human cadavers in freezers seven floors deep at Dulce, the joint CIAAlien "central base" in New Mexico. Why wouldn`t they store meat for emergencies? Possessing an insatiable hunger doesnt automatically equate to lack of foresight. They (Greys, Reptilians, the Vatican, Congress persons, Senitors, Mayors, Alphabet Agencies, Presidents, the Omega Agency, the UN, the NSA, NATO, the Trilatoral Commision, CFR, Bankers, CEOs, Celebrities, Principles and Teachers, Lawyers, Law Enforcement, Pastors, etc.) have at an order away a plentiful, regular menu of fresh meat, do they not?
Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
Because that's what he calls them. I've read his work & his books are staring back at me. He clearly accuses people of engaging in satantic rituals, from rape to blood drinking to human sacrifice. So there that
I love AMD chips & your story just made me a sadedit on 21-8-2011 by Swills because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by zarp3333
This is my first time listening to Icke. I've seen his name and all the derogatory remarks associated with it. As a first time viewer, my gut says he is sincere and believes what he is saying. When ascribing possible motivations I always ask myself a couple questions.
1. What is the upside of a potential hustle? Or how much money can be made?
2. What's at risk? (selling soap powder as heroin can get you shot). Or could this ruin his chances at a career in mainstream journalism?
3. Does the would be perpetrator posess the intelligence, charm and charisma to be successful at other less risky endeavors?
He passes the sniff test enough to at least consider what he has to say. Now let's take a look at how the information may fit into MY paradigm. Suppose Satan was one of the angels who helped carry out Creation as in being one of God's geneticists who created all of earth's creatures and man.
Let's further suppose that Satan, rather than give praise to the newly created humans, became jealous of humans because they were endowed directly by God certain divine characteristics missing in angels. Those characteristics include a soul, the potential to be true creators instead of master copiers and last but not least the potential for immortality.
Let's further suppose upon realizing His favorite angel was so angry and hearing His favorite angel say "I could do better. Those pathetic knock about humans will never amount to anything more than the dirt from which they were created and I could do better myself." God, the Supreme Creator, bestowed upon Lucifer, now known by his gang alias, Satan, a certain amount of time, or age, to do everything possible to tempt as many humans as possible and claim their souls.
Satan then took with him a group of the best "scientists/geneticists" to put humanity to the ultimate test. God, having so much confidence and love for His new creation that He agreed to a further stipulation. Although humans would be endowed with all of the abilities spoken about by Jesus to his apostles, such as moving a mountain with prayer and fasting, humans would have no conscious memory of their real Father in heaven nor their latent abilities.
Along the way, things started looking so bad for us humans, ie greed, perversion, blood sacrifices, etc, He sent his Son down to give the pathetic humans a hint of what lays dormant in each human. Satan laughed and was so bold that he had the audacity to even attempt JC, my brother.
In that paradigm suddenly Icke doesn't sound far off the mark. Neither does the woman in the interview. She actually filled in a couple blank spots in my understanding.
Now, let us further suppose that this strange gut feeling many of us have been experiencing is akin to the one minute warning bell in boxing. Let's take it a little further and believe what Jesus actually said was the truth. That shouldn't be hard for Christians. "oh you perverse and faithless generation, with the faith as small as a mustard seed, you can move mountains. You are capable of doing tenfold the miracles I have done."
That puts everything in a little different perspective doesn't it? Shape shifting ain't #. I'm going to sprout my own wings and bust out a flaming sword of whip ass. Let those reptiles manifest their true form replete with their wings as glorified in the statues surrounding the city of London. I can't wait to chop their baby blood drinking heads off and urinate down their neck holes.
It's going to be armageddon alright but we've been decieved that were just a bunch of weakling pussies. What if Jesus was right? What if what was written in the gospels is Truth with a capital frigging T? What if within each of us is a super hero than can fly and has x-ray vision? What if all YOU have to do to change the world is believe YOU can do it?
What if Icke is absolutely right and the aliens are Satan's genetically modified lab rats cruising around in the best 4th dimensional tech in the world? Doesn't really matter if heaven is the 5th dimension because after I chop the head off a couple reptiles masquerading as haliburton execs and a few trolls on ATS, I'm going to straight to the 5th dimension and manifesting the flying Harley I've always wanted...bitches.