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List of Suppressed Inventions by our Government

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posted on Aug, 20 2011 @ 11:18 PM
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the US Patent Office originated in 1790. Which invention(s) of Franklin do you refer to? Were they perhaps inroducted before the Patent Office came into being? post by jupiter869
 




posted on Aug, 20 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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Flag and Star, my friend. That's a lot of benefit that TPTB have witheld from all of us.
Does anybody else see a behavioral pattern in the government forbidding us from
protecting ourselves in several crucial areas, or worse yet-- easily becoming self-sufficient?



posted on Aug, 20 2011 @ 11:56 PM
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Yay for mobile-induced double post. My apologies.
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posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 12:09 AM
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It's weird to me that anytime someone mentions a possible hydrogen powered vehicle, people start going off on how "it takes more energy to get hydrogen out of water than you receive from burning it and it's not efficient and good luck with that perpetual motion pipe dream dumbass."

No one is suggesting perpetual motion. You can, in fact, run a standard IC engine on hydrogen gas with little modification(replace liquid gasoline storage tank with a pressure tank, remove fuel pump, splice a few regulators in, etc). The average result of this is up to 20% increase in power, and after about a month, all of the old carbon deposits will be burned out of the cylinders and the exhaust will be odorless, hot air.

But people seem to think that the idea of a hydrogen powered vehicle includes a miniaturized hydrogen extraction plant that will use electricity siphoned from the engine(using a belt driven alternator I assume) to generate more hydrogen, such that one would have only to add a few gallons of water to the vehicle's tank once a month or so.
That is impossible, at least with todays tech and scientific understanding. But no one expects a gasoline engine to be able to take crude oil right off the tanker and refine it before using it as fuel, because we cannot capture enough energy from burning gasoline to both move a car around and refine crude oil. So we have big giant refineries.

My family is planning to install a solar array to assist in powering our home. I plan to make a few experiments in generating hydrogen using the array to see how much I can make. If I let the panels make hydrogen all day, every day, I'm hoping I will have enough to fill a pressure tank in my car whenever it starts running low. So the "inefficiency" of hydrolosis, etc, shouldnt even be a consideration, and indeed should never have been in dicussing this concept. But I still ask: anyone see any potential problems with this system? I welcome any input.


 
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posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 01:32 AM
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hi gpena, + thanks for that... GREAT WORK,

i am just replying so i can keep up with this thread,
as i am noting, even when i subscribe to a thread, it sometimes doesnt appear in myATS...

anyway, thanks again...

seeya

s+f ***



posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 01:43 AM
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add prl 8 53 on this list Durk Pearson is quoted in 'High Frontiers' as saying that "PRL-8-53 is a terrific memory enhancer. Normally you can memorize about seven or eight digits just by looking at them for a second. PRL-8-53 gives the average person a memory span of about 21 to 22 digits." He also reported that one amnesia victim was cured with one dose. but now you cant find info on this drug with the exception of a few reports from 1979 the drug completely was buried and never mentioned again



posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 04:23 AM
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The negative reactions by some posters on certain subjects here on ATS really concerns me. Some of them just come across as blatant trolling by people who clearly have no interest in the types of subjects discussed on ATS or the point of view that certain conspiracies of power are possible if not a matter of proven history and modern continuance thereof.

I really think ATS should make a concerted effort to reign in some of the so called "skeptics" who are clearly driven by some other personal or professional agenda.

There is an always has been a suppression list in use by the patent office. Contrary to the claims made by a few posters, this is not a list of items which will be automatically denied a patent and classified by the government. It is a list of device types which will come under automatic review by subject matter experts because they have the possibility of causing harm to the public in a direct or indirect way or may have elements which would provide an advantage to our military of some kind.

Yes, GPS devices are in the public but new patents are still reviewed to make sure that any civilian devices have limited accuracy. (All commercial GPS devices have an intentional amount of measurement error built in to prevent them being used to build guidance systems for missiles, bombs, etc by terrorists or even other governments who do not currently have "smart weapons").

I don't know what to think about people who post "these things are on the market so they cannot be on such a list or there is no list, etc". It should be fairly simple for just about anyone to apply enough logic to figure out why things like this would still be listed.

Clearly this is yet another area where our government needs to apply some transparency and give the public some form of review. All suppressed patents should be listed on the US Patent Office website w/ a description of some kind. They don't need to publish the actual diagrams and so on but a description of what the suppressed device is, what it does, etc without providing step by step instructions would at least give the public the ability to make sure that inventions are not being suppressed for the preservation of financial monopolies and so on.

It's kind of difficult for the public to challenge misuse of government secrecy when we don't have the first clue of it being misused.



posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 07:32 AM
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I believe it would be a specific type of thermocouple then. You can patent different variations of a design can't you? They are not claiming that these are totally 100% new thechnologies



posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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Science analysis things that have been invented, you are an inventor so you should be highly paid. Dismiss the fools who quote what science say's, because science won't know untill you have invented it. Good luck with all your efforts.

We would not be on here if it wasn't for people like you.

To the others........Go down the shops and get yourself a thermocouple or whatever to put on your fire in winter so you don't have to use the grid for electricity..... Got one ? No !.... I wonder why??? Got it yet


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posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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S+F gpena, great thread! I don't care what anyone else says. I have been wanting to go off the grid and have been looking for a way to power a generator system without fuel and minimizing breakdowns, I think you might have just pointed me to it. Here are a couple of links.

New York Times article on Lester Hendershot circa 1928

Powerpedia???

Although, I must point out in all fairness, that there does seem to be a renewed interest in this, as the last paragraph of the link below indicates, Including Lester's son, Mark.


Mark Hendershot, Lester's son, is continuing his father's research. He believes "that once again the theory and working proof can be presented to a world which may now be ready."(6) For those who are interested, he has the construction plans and research details of his father's device (7). Also, Tim Thrapp of Ohio and Walt Parsons of Florida have built the Hendershot device. Thrapp's successfully "produces about 10 watts continuously with no electrical input (self-running)." There is also reported to be another project being undertaken in Australia (8). According to an advertisement in the Space Energy Journal, "Barry Hilton believes he has discovered the secret to the Hendershot Generator." He has published construction details and a theoretical explanation which is for sale along with a companion video (9). Information about the original Hendershot device can be obtained in detail from The Hendershot Motor Mystery by Tom Brown. There are also other devices in use that involve some of Hendershot's ideas, such as the Swiss M/L Converter (10).


Alternative Energy Institute

Inventions of Lester Hendershot

I had been looking at Stratified Downdraft Gasifiers that seemed promising, but breakdown was a huge concern and fuel, although in the version below is said to be only wood chips, is still an issue.



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posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Besides, the "Cold War" was a hoax, a farce. Read Charlotte Iserbyte. Reagan's Administration was in bed with them.


Or read The Secret War Against The Jews or Unholy Trinity both by Loftus and Aarons. The same industrialists who are bleeding us dry through lobbying our jobs off these shores are the same ones who financed Hitler, and Soviet Russia into place. Indeed, most of the Nazis and their money escaped to North and South America and are intertwined now with those same industrialists.



posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by ConspiraCity
its sad how humanity is limiting its own progression...


Humanity isn't limiting it, humanity is in shackles, and those who rule the world are limiting the rest of us in every single aspect of our lives.


Originally posted by dontlaughthink
Dismiss the fools who quote what science say's, because science won't know untill you have invented it.


Although taken out of context, it seems too overreaching to be insightful, this quote is very inspirational and I really enjoyed reading it and taking in it's meaning.

Thanks.


Originally posted by ecoparity
The negative reactions by some posters on certain subjects here on ATS really concerns me. Some of them just come across as blatant trolling by people who clearly have no interest in the types of subjects discussed on ATS or the point of view that certain conspiracies of power are possible if not a matter of proven history and modern continuance thereof.

I really think ATS should make a concerted effort to reign in some of the so called "skeptics" who are clearly driven by some other personal or professional agenda.


I agree with you there, but it seems many of these people have been here a long long time, so I doubt you will see anything done about it, and anyway, I support free speech, and I think even if what someone has to say is something I disagree with, I still want them to be able to say it.

We all have our own agendas, whether we are paid for it or whether it's something we pay for ourselves.
edit on 8/21/2011 by DieBravely because: the monster under my bed tells me what to do



posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by Tsurugi
It's weird to me that anytime someone mentions a possible hydrogen powered vehicle, people start going off on how "it takes more energy to get hydrogen out of water than you receive from burning it and it's not efficient and good luck with that perpetual motion pipe dream dumbass."

No one is suggesting perpetual motion. You can, in fact, run a standard IC engine on hydrogen gas with little modification(replace liquid gasoline storage tank with a pressure tank, remove fuel pump, splice a few regulators in, etc). The average result of this is up to 20% increase in power, and after about a month, all of the old carbon deposits will be burned out of the cylinders and the exhaust will be odorless, hot air.

But people seem to think that the idea of a hydrogen powered vehicle includes a miniaturized hydrogen extraction plant that will use electricity siphoned from the engine(using a belt driven alternator I assume) to generate more hydrogen, such that one would have only to add a few gallons of water to the vehicle's tank once a month or so.
That is impossible, at least with todays tech and scientific understanding. But no one expects a gasoline engine to be able to take crude oil right off the tanker and refine it before using it as fuel, because we cannot capture enough energy from burning gasoline to both move a car around and refine crude oil. So we have big giant refineries.

My family is planning to install a solar array to assist in powering our home. I plan to make a few experiments in generating hydrogen using the array to see how much I can make. If I let the panels make hydrogen all day, every day, I'm hoping I will have enough to fill a pressure tank in my car whenever it starts running low. So the "inefficiency" of hydrolosis, etc, shouldnt even be a consideration, and indeed should never have been in dicussing this concept. But I still ask: anyone see any potential problems with this system? I welcome any input.


 
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My friend has a set up on his 1999 Ford PowerStroke. It does improve mileage by around 5 mpg, infact DOES add some power and you dont have to change your oil as much because it does clean up carbon real well.

A step you may find difficult is finding the right voltage to send to the electrodes.So you''ll need a circuit board set up of some type to regulate that. To high voltage and you make steam which will wreck your motor. To little and you wont be extracting hydrogen efficiently enough.

Tips:

1. Use distilled water, add some baking soda to the water.
2. You dont need a tank. Run a hose from the hydrogen contraption into your air intake so that the hydrogen is forced into the cylinders with oxygen. Saves money and weight.
3. Like I said you will need a way to regulate the voltage going to the plates or you will end up wrecking things.


If you have any other questions I'll see if I can answer them for you.




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posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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My friend has a set up on his 1999 Ford PowerStroke. It does improve mileage by around 5 mpg, infact DOES add some power and you dont have to change your oil as much because it does clean up carbon real well.

A step you may find difficult is finding the right voltage to send to the electrodes.So you''ll need a circuit board set up of some type to regulate that. To high voltage and you make steam which will wreck your motor. To little and you wont be extracting hydrogen efficiently enough.


I think you're misunderstanding me, though I appreciate the information. I am not planning to produce hydrogen in the vehicle. I will be using an array of solar cells, which we are getting for our house and mounting on the ground nearby. The juice for the hydrogen production will come from them, and I'll have to set up an accumulator system and pressure storage tank there too. Then I will pressurize a tank in my car as needed from that main storage tank.

And I'm talking about using only hydrogen, not adding hydrogen to the fuel-air mix.

As for the tuning of the IC engine, I have a good friend who is a whiz with all kinds of IC engines. He's gonna handle that stuff. I'm just supposed to do the nerd stuff with the solar cells.
He tells me, btw, that the ECM can be used to tweak the spark, etc. No new circuitry needed.



posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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I suppose you all know about the free energy water pump that was invented before the Pyramids were built

It could be made of stone or wood and still work.

I can disclose how it works if your interested.



posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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The most obvious conclusion to see here is not mentioned by anyone. The patent office isn't the real point of gaining a patent, but is simply the paper processor. The DOD is the final say. This means, you can have all manner of things you'd like to market, but if the DOD says "no" you're done for. Worse yet, if the DOD says "yes" and takes control of the item and either uses it for itself - paying nothing for it, or prevents one from mfg it altogether.

This is important, the DOD is not about commerce, but about control. One may say, "well they want to get control of all things that make it easier to kill people," but for the most part, the DOD uses the most conventional of items to kill people. For all of its hoarding of super duper stuff, area 51 creations etc., the Iraq killing of millions was done with bombs, hummers, bullets and stuff that is hardly different then anything used in the last 100 years, even the protection afforded the hired killers was rather sub par by any measurement - I'm thinking of the hummer IED armor etc.

The conclusion I draw is the DOD is a front for the controlling families, simply vetting anything they feel might endanger the status-quo and taking anything that off the market that they feel will endanger the family control.

The fact that folks are encouraged to patent everything, insures that the DOD sees everything useful. Had folks not been encouraged to make every dime off of every little thing, but instead been thinking of the higher good, many of these items might be improving the world instead of sitting on a DOD shelf.

One has to wonder if one creates a cheap, or free energy device, does NOT patent it buy simply distributes the plans via every mechanism possible, could the world change? Or is the earth reality such that cheap, or free energy (free electrons) are not allowed here not matter what - the rules are simply no free stuff, that's allowed in another realm.



posted on Aug, 21 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by therealeffindeal
add prl 8 53 on this list Durk Pearson is quoted in 'High Frontiers' as saying that "PRL-8-53 is a terrific memory enhancer. Normally you can memorize about seven or eight digits just by looking at them for a second. PRL-8-53 gives the average person a memory span of about 21 to 22 digits." He also reported that one amnesia victim was cured with one dose. but now you cant find info on this drug with the exception of a few reports from 1979 the drug completely was buried and never mentioned again


They didn't do a good job of burying it. You can buy an article on it here.

You can read patents related here and here.

Read part of an article on it here.

Abstract is again here.

From the abstract it doesn't seem all that amazing. There are plenty of other things out there that are supposed to do the same thing. It was popularized by a gent who was selling supplements way back when. You can see his operation here.

There are a number of possibilities as to why this is where it is at the current moment.




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posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by ConspiraCity

I know, its very difficult to keep my progress hidden. But look at it from my prospective, I work hours upon hours designing the engines / generators and coming up with mathematical formulas that don't exist yet. Sadly, none of it is patented. If someone has more money then I, they can steal all my hard work and take all the credit for it leaving me high and dry. I hate that money is a motivating factor for me as I wish that this technology could already be out there and tear down the corrupt oil industries. Yet, I have to make a living too, hopefully I will have a substantial contribution to humanity in the near future.


You don't need to be doing this alone.
There are others who are working for the same ideal, are fully funded, and won't steal anything from anybody.
If you personally have the potential to end poverty and hunger on the earth, and save the lives of 25,000 children who die every day (about one child dies from hunger every 3 or 4 seconds), you might consider giving up the personal agenda for fame and fortune and get with the program. You'll feel much more pleasure knowing kids aren't dying because of you, than you will ever get from driving a fancy car, living in a big house or getting a nobel prize.
I know it's a leap of faith and a tough act, given the brainwashing we've all undergone since birth about competition being good and wealth and adoration from others being the ultimate goal in life, but I promise you there is much more on the other side.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by dontlaughthink
I suppose you all know about the free energy water pump that was invented before the Pyramids were built

It could be made of stone or wood and still work.

I can disclose how it works if your interested.


I am interested, please disclose.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by RogerT

Originally posted by ConspiraCity

I know, its very difficult to keep my progress hidden. But look at it from my prospective, I work hours upon hours designing the engines / generators and coming up with mathematical formulas that don't exist yet. Sadly, none of it is patented. If someone has more money then I, they can steal all my hard work and take all the credit for it leaving me high and dry. I hate that money is a motivating factor for me as I wish that this technology could already be out there and tear down the corrupt oil industries. Yet, I have to make a living too, hopefully I will have a substantial contribution to humanity in the near future.


You don't need to be doing this alone.
There are others who are working for the same ideal, are fully funded, and won't steal anything from anybody.
If you personally have the potential to end poverty and hunger on the earth, and save the lives of 25,000 children who die every day (about one child dies from hunger every 3 or 4 seconds), you might consider giving up the personal agenda for fame and fortune and get with the program. You'll feel much more pleasure knowing kids aren't dying because of you, than you will ever get from driving a fancy car, living in a big house or getting a nobel prize.
I know it's a leap of faith and a tough act, given the brainwashing we've all undergone since birth about competition being good and wealth and adoration from others being the ultimate goal in life, but I promise you there is much more on the other side.


Keep in mind the governments corruption, they will literally steal your idea, patent it, then sue anyone for making it.. people don't keep their inventions secret for #s and giggles. I wish I could have people help me develop my ideas but that puts the entire concept in jeopardy of never becoming available to public.

To me, the best way is develop behind closed doors, reveal nothing, then show it to an investor or bring it for a patent when it is fully built and functional.



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