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9/11: al-Qaeda didn’t act alone

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posted on Aug, 20 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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On September 11, bereaved family members will mark the 10th anniversary of the cataclysmic terrorist attacks on American cities. They will gather around the pools of remembrance at the newly opened memorial, where the names of the 2,982 known victims who died on the day and in the earlier bombing of 1993 are engraved on parapets of bronze. President Obama and his predecessor, George W Bush will be on hand.

Two official inquiries have investigated the who, the how, and the why of 9/11. A decade on, however, many questions remain. Osama bin Laden and his terrorist cohort plotted and executed the operation, but did they act alone? Only days after the onslaught, President Bush's defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, said the terrorists "live and work and function and are fostered and encouraged, if not just tolerated, by a series of countries… I know a lot… It's a sensitive matter."

In the months that followed, President Bush and Vice President Cheney – especially Cheney – insinuated publicly that Iraq had been involved in 9/11. Polls showed that by 2003, when the US invaded Iraq, millions of Americans had come to believe that was the case. The US 9/11 Commission, however, would conclude that Iraq had nothing to do with the attacks.

Rumsfeld's other suspects after 9/11 had included Libya, Sudan and Iran, all countries associated with terrorism. No evidence was to emerge pointing to Libya or Sudan, though bin Laden was long based in Khartoum. Iran is another story.

The Iran connection is spelled out in a document filed by American attorneys working on a civil action known as the Havlish case. Fiona Havlish is the widow of an insurance consultant working for AON, the reinsurance giant, who died on 9/11 at the World Trade Center. She and six other bereaved relatives – including the widow of one of the airliners' pilots – joined Iran to a suit brought against bin Laden and al-Qaeda.


telegraph article

Thought this would be of interest to a lot of people, the new book obviously needs promoting and selling that this article is based on, however it seems that more and more mainstream media outlets are taking on the fact that 19 blokes with boxcutters were not solely behind the attacks.




posted on Aug, 20 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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A more accurate thread title would be;

9/11: Al-Qaeda didn't act at all.

Al queda was a scapegaot, patsy, dupe and fallguy for the plots and schemes
of the real perpetrators. All media are now complicit and this article is solely about
perpetuating the myth that 9/11 was anything but the Huge Hoax that it really was.



posted on Aug, 20 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Bought the book (THE 11TH HOUR) at Borders going out of business sale at discount

Reading it now.....



posted on Aug, 20 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by pshea38
A more accurate thread title would be;

9/11: Al-Qaeda didn't act at all.

Al queda was a scapegaot, patsy, dupe and fallguy for the plots and schemes
of the real perpetrators. All media are now complicit and this article is solely about
perpetuating the myth that 9/11 was anything but the Huge Hoax that it really was.


A more appropriate title would be anything else, however, that was the title of the article and i posted it in 9/11 forum but followed breaking news rules.

However your point is stupid. Obviously not ALL media is complicit or you wouldnt read about it on here, let alone anywhere else. I think I uderstand your sentiment, but gently does it old bean. Gently does it, othrwise it sounds like vitriol!!



posted on Aug, 20 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by spacedonk

Originally posted by pshea38
A more accurate thread title would be;

9/11: Al-Qaeda didn't act at all.

Al queda was a scapegaot, patsy, dupe and fallguy for the plots and schemes
of the real perpetrators. All media are now complicit and this article is solely about
perpetuating the myth that 9/11 was anything but the Huge Hoax that it really was.


A more appropriate title would be anything else, however, that was the title of the article and i posted it in 9/11 forum but followed breaking news rules.

However your point is stupid. Obviously not ALL media is complicit or you wouldnt read about it on here, let alone anywhere else. I think I uderstand your sentiment, but gently does it old bean. Gently does it, othrwise it sounds like vitriol!!


My point is not stupid. It is true. But then again, truth is labelled as stupidity by most
when it falls outside their narrow terms of thinking (or by the complicit not wishing to
be fingered). All media is complicit. You think ATS is any different? Try mentioning No-planes
on 9/11 here and quickly become acquainted with the hoax bin, even though it is self evident
(by now at least) that planes could not have caused the damage done on 9/11.
The same applies for media fakery. The last thing the real perpetrators want in the public
domain is the suspicion that media fakery and cgi was used extensively in the broadcast
images of 9/11. This would bring into the spotlight the major role the media had and still has
in the covering up of the real truth of events, even to this day.
I won't even go into the reaction when the fact that very few if any people died on 9/11
is brought up. Based on previous experience i already can anticipate your reaction, so
there is no need to bother. How foolish all us sheep really are. How many other similar
subsequent hoaxes could have been prevented or exposed if we only learned to accepted
the clear and compelling evidence laid before us from 9/11.
One mans vitriol is anothers aqua vitae.
Oh well, old bean.



posted on Aug, 20 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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I've been saying for years on here that 9/11 was (foreign)state sponsored, I was always under the impression it was the Saudis or Pakistanis, or even both. Either way, for whatever reason, the US government decided to conceal this fact. It wouldn't surprise me either if it wasn't one of the ones the OP mentioned, but for me there is no question that it was a state sponsored event. The Anthrax attacks were part of the 9/11 attacks, and the Anthrax attacks were definitely aided by a country able to produce it. The US gov admits this, they just want us to believe it was aided by our very capable government Anthrax producers.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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Why would Iran want to deliver a pretext for war to America? Did Iran profit in any way from the ousting of Hussein? Iran wasnt on friendly therms neither with Sadam nor America, I wonder which of the 2 they consider the lesser of 2 evils, from their point of view.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 07:07 AM
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Its people like you that make it harder for people trying to expose the truth.
Take your bs no plane story out of here. It makes you look ridiculous and your not helping the cause.
Also i wouldnt be snide to people saying they have a narrow mind. Dou know how many people saw the panes with their own eyes, and your calling us narrow minded? Please leave this forum and dont come back



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by VonDoomen
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Its people like you that make it harder for people trying to expose the truth.
Take your bs no plane story out of here. It makes you look ridiculous and your not helping the cause.
Also i wouldnt be snide to people saying they have a narrow mind. Dou know how many people saw the panes with their own eyes, and your calling us narrow minded? Please leave this forum and dont come back


Just for kicks, lets imagine pshea38 is correct, and this site as well as most 911 forums are controlled by the same people who control the media. If the media are complicit, might not you expect to see the above attitude? The end result would be to dissuade the curious reader from investigating a lead that leads to the truth.

This is why the organized Truth Movement as well as the OSers are so dead set on moving folks away from media complicity.

Goebbels felt the Truth was the enemy of the State...makes sense why "truther" is a dirty word to some folks.


“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

thinkexist.com...



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by VonDoomen
reply to post by pshea38
 


Its people like you that make it harder for people trying to expose the truth.
Take your bs no plane story out of here. It makes you look ridiculous and your not helping the cause.
Also i wouldnt be snide to people saying they have a narrow mind. Dou know how many people saw the panes with their own eyes, and your calling us narrow minded? Please leave this forum and dont come back


Whatever you say bub. So you saw 'panes' with your own eyes. Fair enough.
Yours is just an opinion. Mine is fact. You are doing a great job with your 'cause'.
10 years on and Jack s**t. Well done! Great job! You are exactly the kind the perpetrators
were depending on when they presented their fairystory BS. This forum is so righteous
and has a monopoly on truth, doesn't it. They are gatekeepers where you can go so far
but no further. Good sheep!



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Can you please tell me how the media is controlled? It is comprised of literally hundreds of thousands of people, including thousands in editorial positions, there is no restraint on starting a newspaper or magazine of any political bent, so how does anyone manage to control the "media"?



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by hooper
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Can you please tell me how the media is controlled? It is comprised of literally hundreds of thousands of people, including thousands in editorial positions, there is no restraint on starting a newspaper or magazine of any political bent, so how does anyone manage to control the "media"?


Read the links on my signature, I go into detail there and I look forward to your comments.

Dear reader, note the almost robotic responses from the OS faithful.



posted on Aug, 22 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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Al-qaeda is a CIA invention to be used whenever the US decides to invade and take over another country to get their hands on the oil, diamonds, or whatever other resource they can rape from that country. Research 'Bush/ Bin Laden family joint financial interests' the relationship between the Bush family and the bin Laden families goes way back to Bush senior.

Bin Laden was a CIA agent up to the day before 9/11, again to be used as a catalyst for invading and taking over countries so the US can rape the country's resources without question. It's an old ploy the US have been using for centuries. Do some research into the financial ties behind 9/11.

Research the sacrificial date 9/11 which is an illuminati sacrifice date. Research how many Bush's have been cloned to be used by the illuminati.

Also research Dick Cheney, Monsanto (Seed conspiracy), Donald Rumsfeld, Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, FEMA, FEMA camps, FEMA trains, FEMA coffins, Federal Reserve, Banking System, Rotheschild family, flu vaccinations, JP Morgan, BP Oil shareholders. Ask yourself why the twin towers steel supports 'melted' (research nano-thermite) and ask yourself why WTC building 7 collapsed for absolutely no reason at all. Ask yourself why there was no aircraft debris at the scene of the pentagon where a plane supposedly crashed into the pentagon then mysteriously disappeared without a trace of any debris. Ask yourself why everything was obliterated from the twin towers, except the passports of the so-called 'hijackers' which were retrieved in perfect condition from Ground Zero (remembering that everything else was incinerated and reduced to shreds) but those passports were 'found' in perfect condition. Does that really sound true to you??

If you do some research you will actually get the real picture of what is going on and being orchestrated to occur in this present day world we reside in.
edit on 22-8-2011 by kiwitina948 because: Edit: To add more truth and ask the OP to do the research deeper into the subject to get a clearer idea of what the US has orchestrated.



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