Omega I will be looking forward to anything you have to add this topic has grabbed my attention. I would like to learn more so anything that you can get will be very helpful.

Personally I believe in the legend of the skinwalker because everything that Chief dan stated in the video alot of it is consistent with Satanic acts and rites and rituals. I am a christian and know that God is all powerful however the devil and his imps can grant their servents power to do most things to decive and harm others. let me say up front im not lookin to debate good vs evil or religion or anything like that this is my oponion and nothing more

Keep up the research omega im enjoin it as well as many others on here

I believe in Skinwalkers, cause they live here too in Alaska.

I have a few stuff to tell you. Its late so I'll get back to you maybe tomorrow.

I didnt eaither but now tht i think of it alaskan natives are close to the same as the native americans from the mainland.

glad your safe at least

This is an interesting subject, Native Americans were more in touch with nature and the mysteries she emenates. There are many things in this world that modern science cannot explain. I researched Lycanthropy in some detail a few years ago and it is still fresh in my mind every waking hour. Some things that move the minds of men should not be taken lightly and so research is needed to alleviate a certain sense of fear of the unknown. There is not one human being on this earth who can say for an absolute fact that ancient peoples of this world did not have the ability to shape shift, if you werent there, you dont know. To place a certain restriction on thinking in a way to light more "rational thought" is only going to dim the flame of individual truth. We all have the right to walk on the fringes of such a "rational" society. An interesting insight into the word fantasy is that this term came from kingdoms of old. Whomever sought spiritual enlightenment or knowledge outside the realm of the ruler or king was thought to have been in denial and only following fantasy. The term fantasy literally comes from this. So I suppose I am just a fantastical fool, either way, I feel I have better insight than most.

Good post.

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
the mysteries should be open to all that are willing to put the time and effort in uncovering them

...just because you can, doesnt mean you should...

...imo, unless you have a very firm grip on the syntactical concepts of the culture you're investigating, comprehension of their beliefs is a shot in the dark at best...

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
while i agree with Wyn Hawks that this should not be talked about in front of just anybody and definitely not children,

...thats not what i said... i said this (below)...

Previously posted by Wyn Hawks
...when i was young, i heard that traditionals dont tell those stories to outsiders and that they're never told around pre-puberty children or around pregnant women...

...see the difference?... your statement implies that i believe what you claim i said, which i never said, lol...

...the quote function is far more accurate than most people's memory of what someone else posted - and - using it helps prevent misinformation from being perpetuated... not telling ya how to post, honey, just saying accuracy is a good thang...

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
perhaps a subject like this belongs in above top secret where it won't be accessible to non-members, or the foolish

..."or the foolish"?... o'my, lol...

...ats isnt the only outlet for skinwalker info... the web is literally crawling with it... WAY too late to undo whats been done and done again or attempt to limit access to it...

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
the mysteries should be open to all that are willing to put the time and effort in uncovering them

1- ...just because you can, doesnt mean you should...

...imo, unless you have a very firm grip on the syntactical concepts of the culture you're investigating, comprehension of their beliefs is a shot in the dark at best...

2-

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
while i agree with Wyn Hawks that this should not be talked about in front of just anybody and definitely not children,

...thats not what i said... i said this (below)...

Previously posted by Wyn Hawks
...when i was young, i heard that traditionals dont tell those stories to outsiders and that they're never told around pre-puberty children or around pregnant women...

...see the difference?... your statement implies that i believe what you claim i said, which i never said, lol...

...the quote function is far more accurate than most people's memory of what someone else posted - and - using it helps prevent misinformation from being perpetuated... not telling ya how to post, honey, just saying accuracy is a good thang...

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
perhaps a subject like this belongs in above top secret where it won't be accessible to non-members, or the foolish

3- ..."or the foolish"?... o'my, lol...

...ats isnt the only outlet for skinwalker info... the web is literally crawling with it... WAY too late to undo whats been done and done again or attempt to limit access to it...

1- All knowledge is power.
Those who know more than everyone else are more powerful than everyone else.
If you turn your back on knowledge, you doom yourself to slavery at the hands of those who know.

or commit a major faux pas like killing a nice young native american lady you happened to meet while wandering through the desert, because the smell of rotten chewing gum wrappers, lingered about her, and in ignorance assumed, that as a were-person, she was evil and had to be destroyed.


2- ahhh!!! my bad, i hope the following edit/correction is satisfactory

while i agree with what Wyn Hawks was saying re that this kind of subject should not be talked about in front of just anybody and definitely not children,

3- yes there are foolish people who may misuse or misunderstand or as you pointed out :

...imo, unless you have a very firm grip on the syntactical concepts of the culture you're investigating, comprehension of their beliefs is a shot in the dark at best...

indeed however somethings are so old that they are universal, especially concerning the subjects of shamanism and sorcery, ie one does not need to be from a tribe to have or understand what it means to have a totem/power animal/familiar. but yes it would be good if anyone from the tribes could contribute so as to clear up any misconceptions.

admit it,
you'd like to learn more, don't you? as your prompt reply and additional bump to this thread shows

same here.

The discussion of how skinwalkers gain their powers follows the normal pattern of achieving occult powers. Odin hung himself from the World Tree for the knowledge of runes. The legends of people turning into animals is a pretty universal concept, hard to think of a culture that didn't have such stories. I wont fall into the scientific trap of saying that such shapechanging isn't possible. As we currently understand things we can't explain it with science, but we don't know for sure all the loop holes in the universal laws. Strong possibility that the tales are exaggerated, but what if they all aren't? Interesting topic thanks for the thread!

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
1- All knowledge is power. Those who know more than everyone else are more powerful than everyone else. If you turn your back on knowledge, you doom yourself to slavery at the hands of those who know.

...thats one way of looking of at it... i dont approve of that mindset for myself cuz it has only negative connations - narcississtic, indulges illusions of grandeur and is often used as an excuse for poking your nose where it doesnt belong...

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
admit it, you'd like to learn more, don't you? as your prompt reply and additional bump to this thread shows

...wrong again...

Sorry for not replying for a few days. I tried to reply yesterday, but I was getting a server error.

Its the Shamans that shapeship here. Or what my elders call them, the Anakuq. There are 3 types of Shamans here, the good, the bad and the evil. The Shamans here are not too different from the Skinwalkers from the lower 48 from what i read here on this topic. I haven't watched any of the videos cause they would take a long time to load. I'll try to find more about the Shamans here and post more info tomorrow.

Here is my opinion.
i feel it is possible, because WE DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING

What bugs me is that if you have to kill someone you love, knowing that’s what you will do, AND being able to go ahead with it....Do you actually love them?

If 1 million tried this (Giving its real) I'd say only 10 or 15 would get to be a skinwalker.

Why? Because, I could not kill anyone I love, I just couldn’t do it. The reality of losing them would stop me. If it didn’t, then I am already a Psycho killer with no love for anybody...Do you get what I mean?

I can’t fathom a scenario when this would work. But that’s just my opinion.

Now acting out "un-godly" things (Drinking urine, rape, paedophiles etc..).... More likely if you ask me but what kind of world do we live in if we get a reward of superhuman power for doing such awful things.

Growing up and living among Rez and Pueblo people; I have learned that the white mans culture puts up barriers to what the cosmos actually looks like and is. It's hard to explain to a culture that primarily uses language for communication; especially when that language is used as a control mechanism.