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reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 12:43 PM by POPtheKlEEN89
reply to post by Heartisblack



been noticing it since mid july, i live in southern nevada and it rises to the south west at about 9:30, oddest thing and funny you would notice it too, its the coolest star ive ever seen, fire engine red to sky blue like a christmas light!


reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 12:58 PM by lurker007
reply to post by TupacShakur



if you're previous post explains why it is flickering red & blue, then why isn't the atmosphere making all other stars flicker this same way ? . . .your logic just doesn't seem logical to me




reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 01:02 PM by TupacShakur
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if you're previous post explains why it is flickering red & blue, then why isn't the atmosphere making all other stars flicker this same way ? . . .your logic just doesn't seem logical to me
All stars do flicker that way, some do it more severely though.

Its location near the horizon also means that in order to see it we are looking through more atmosphere than when we look at stars that are overhead. In the winter, as Capella moves higher into the sky, strange sightings of this flickering light will be reduced. Other stars fall prey to this same twinkling effect when near the horizon, but Capella's brightness and time of year, being up as the sky grows dark early again for winter, makes it especially noticeable


Does this sound like the star?

A technical word for "twinkling" is scintillation. Another ten dollar term for this effect is atmospheric prismatic dispersion. This simply means that the atmosphere is acting like a giant prism, separating it into the colors that you see in the twinkling. This effect is not very strong when looking straight up through 100 kilometers of atmosphere.


Case closed
edit on 20-8-2011 by TupacShakur because: To edit my post



reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 01:13 PM by lurker007
reply to post by TupacShakur



Thank you for the much needed elaborated explanation.
So based on this explanation, as the star raises high into the night sky, the twinkling will appear the same as other stars?

I've not witnessed it IRL, just youtube vids.

Anyone seen this other than on the horizon? If it's only occurring on the horizon then this has been debunked.

ETA: I'm no astronomer so please correct me if this star travels across the night sky or remains on the horizon this time of year
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reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 01:16 PM by TupacShakur
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Thank you for the much needed elaborated explanation.
So based on this explanation, as the star raises high into the night sky, the twinkling will appear the same as other stars?
Correctamundo, the flickering increases as the star approaches the horizon, and declines as the star approaches directly overhead.

Anyone seen this other than on the horizon? If it's only occurring on the horizon then this has been debunked.
No it still happens directly overhead, it's just not as profound and noticeable.


reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 01:19 PM by Krystian
Originally posted by TupacShakur
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post by lurker007




Thank you for the much needed elaborated explanation.
So based on this explanation, as the star raises high into the night sky, the twinkling will appear the same as other stars?
Correctamundo, the flickering increases as the star approaches the horizon, and declines as the star approaches directly overhead.

Anyone seen this other than on the horizon? If it's only occurring on the horizon then this has been debunked.
No it still happens directly overhead, it's just not as profound and noticeable.


I guess im confused as to how we are explaining twinkling and literal color change...using the same theory..

twinkling is just how you explained it, atmospheric conditions will not make a star pulsate colors...


reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 01:21 PM by kozmo
reply to post by TupacShakur



Tupac is right on the money. I live in a rural area and the night sky is a splendor! Those stars closer to the horizon flicker from red to green to blue due to atmospheric scintillation. The reason you all are seing this one is because it so particularly bright this time of year and is more visible through light pollution. Go out into the country and you will literally see hundreds of them close to the horizon doing the same thing.


reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 01:29 PM by DJW001
reply to post by Heartisblack



Without more specific information such as time and seeing conditions (ie, what is the dimmest star you can see) I would venture a guess that what you're seeing is Arcturus:



skychart.skyandtelescope.com...


reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 01:31 PM by lurker007
reply to post by Krystian



It's the same idea as the Sun setting in the evening and the colors of our sky changing all different colors of the rainbow before finally turning black.
The more atmosphere the light has to pass through, the more the light is dispersed which causes the different colors similar to a prism.

Please correct me if I'm wrong!


reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 02:16 PM by Hellhound604
reply to post by karen61057



Please give the coordinates (R.A. and declination) of this star


reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 02:17 PM by TupacShakur
reply to post by karen61057



So? We already know that the atmosphere makes the starlight flicker. Why is that reason to stop the discussion on this particular star? No one said the flicker was the curious part. They are talking about it changing colors and appearing to be closer. Thanks for your little bit of science here. Much appreciated. Now dont talk with your mouth full.

A technical word for "twinkling" is scintillation. Another ten dollar term for this effect is atmospheric prismatic dispersion. This simply means that the atmosphere is acting like a giant prism, separating it into the colors that you see in the twinkling. This effect is not very strong when looking straight up through 100 kilometers of atmosphere.

Explained in this post.
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