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Originally posted by Urantia1111
Friedman makes a few good points here. i didn't know 18 and 19 were already built and paid for when they were allegedly cancelled. also, in the realm of coincidence, i happen to be watching Bill Hicks on netflix when your thread came up! think that means something?
Originally posted by bluemooone2
Not only was Apollo 18 built, but it was sitting on the launching pad , ready to go. I saw this myself when I was a kid and we had taken a trip to Kennedy space center. It never launched.edit on 20-8-2011 by bluemooone2 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by bluemooone2
Not only was Apollo 18 built, but it was sitting on the launching pad , ready to go. I saw this myself when I was a kid and we had taken a trip to Kennedy space center. It never launched.edit on 20-8-2011 by bluemooone2 because: (no reason given)
That's impossible. The mission was cancelled two years before its planned lauinch date, and no crew ever trained for it. 17 was known to be the last, long before it ever launched.
Interview with Stan Friedman on the movie Apollo18
Originally posted by alienreality
If Apollo 18 or any others became classified, then rest assured no one would have known... a crew could have trained and flew those missions in that context..
"Classified" isn't a code-word for fairy dust to invoke invisibility cloaks. People who actually have worked with classified material realize it involves an entire infrastructure of locational physical access controls and dedicated communications channels and documentation custodianship that are quite noticeable by folks not privy to the material. There wasn't any sign of Apollo-era infrastructure at NASA of that nature.
Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
'I mistrust all frank and simple people, especially when their stories hold together'. Papa.
I wouldn't buy a watch off Stanton Friedman.
Originally posted by SonoftheSun
reply to post by JimOberg
If I understood correctly, Mr Friedman states that Apollo 18 and 19 were already paid for...Obviously, I can't ask him links for such a claim but, if he's correct, it does raise questions.
If you've seen the movie Contact (1997 with Jodie Foster), S.R. Hadden supplies another site for the launch. And it gets me thinking...
Would it be possible, and you wouldn't be in the know obviously but would it be possible, that NASA has launched from another country, in affiliation with another agency. Would it be a possibility or just too much work to cover up something like this?
I would really appreciate an answer on that one Jim.
Thank you.
ETA: OP S&F !edit on 20-8-2011 by SonoftheSun because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JimOberg
Originally posted by alienreality
If Apollo 18 or any others became classified, then rest assured no one would have known... a crew could have trained and flew those missions in that context..
You are sounding totally delusional. Conducting a manned lunar mission isn't something you can train for on Link simulators and plot trajectories for using borrowed bank adding machines. Hundreds of people are involved, who were never subjected to the myth-required 'security blackouts' or months of 'missing time' -- as the actual people who were actually there well recall. The people who did the real lunar landings went on to do other projects after Apollo-17, and never trained any 'secret stand-ins' for themselves either.
"Classified" isn't a code-word for fairy dust to invoke invisibility cloaks. People who actually have worked with classified material realize it involves an entire infrastructure of locational physical access controls and dedicated communications channels and documentation custodianship that are quite noticeable by folks not privy to the material. There wasn't any sign of Apollo-era infrastructure at NASA of that nature.
Believe what you will, of course, if it makes you feel fake-smarter. Pretend what you please. But realize it requires you to call all of those real people, most of them probably a lot smarter than any of us, liars.
Alternate histories are fun to conjur up and debate, as what-if possibilities. They make for good literature and thoght-provoking movies. It's when some people actually begin choosing the make-believe over thoroughly-documented realities that things get pathetic.