It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
Rick Perry is also not on that list and he is rising so fast in the Polls he has shocked the Progressives.
Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
reply to post by Blaine91555
Nobody should be fooled here. Paul is a member of the same Far Right Wing on matters of economics that Perry is. All Libertarians are in fact.
Any source for this?
Or are you just making stuff up?
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
reply to post by Blaine91555
Ya know Blaine, I think you would be the perfect person to put all us Paulers to the faith test. Why don't you make a thread of the best, most researched complaints you can come up with against Ron Paul. Provide reasonable sources. If you can convince me, I will switch to a more suitable candidate.
You want proof that Paul is a Republican who believes in small government and is opposed to entitlements?
He votes about 85% with the Party which is about normal for most Republican Representatives.
My point was the oddness of those who would normally disagree with him on everything but the drugs, who ignore he is a hardcore Right Winger on economics and government. He is actually a Libertarian and always has been.
You may also not know he published and distributed Racist, White Supremacist letters early in his career, signed by him. Later he claimed he never read them and just signed them and handed them out. Everyone ignores that also.
I don't belong to a Party myself. Belonging to a Party seems to me to be what people do who are too lazy or don't care enough to know who they are voting for. In this case its drug users who don't care about anything else.
Paul is not new. Everyone knows he is a Libertarian that runs as a Republican. Everyone knows that Republicans and Libertarians agree on many issues. You want proof? Use Google and catch up with everyone else.
Originally posted by Section31
Originally posted by DIDtm
And what party are you referring to? The GOP or Libertarian?
When I mentioned my anger for party loyalists, I was referring to every single party you can list.
Second, you brought up a good point. Ron Paul is a fake Republican.
Since Ron Paul is an extreme Libertarian, why do people care if he is not mentioned on a Republican poll?
Ron Paul should be mentioned on a Libertarian Candidate poll.edit on 8/20/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)
The controversial newsletters include rants against the Israeli lobby, gays, AIDS victims and Martin Luther King Jr. -- described as a "pro-Communist philanderer." One newsletter, from June 1992, right after the LA riots, says "order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."
Another says, "The criminals who terrorize our cities -- in riots and on every non-riot day -- are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible."
Paul describes himself as a libertarian,...
...Paul’s newsletters have carried different titles over the years--Ron Paul’s Freedom Report, Ron Paul Political Report, The Ron Paul Survival Report--but they generally seem to have been published on a monthly basis since at least 1978...
...What they reveal are decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays.
"If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." - Ron Paul, 1992
"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." - Ron Paul, 1992
"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." - Ron Paul, 1992
"What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn't that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?" - Ron Paul, 1992
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Just to help you sort through the terminology you are using, There is no such thing as an "extreme Libertarian". Libertarians only SEEM extreme to those people dependent on government for everything. Also, I'm not sure why you called Ron Paul a "fake Republican, either. He has been a member of that party his whole career. Using your logic, it can be said that Obama is a fake democrat, yes?
Originally posted by Section31
Libertarians believe 'no' government is the solution to all of our problems. We need police, military, FBI, etc... We just don't need massive government intervention.
I do not trust my fellow Americans enough to say, "It is okay to leave the front door unlocked."
On the voting record I was wrong but not by far. It turns out it is 73%. I'll leave it up to you to look that up.
I have not idea if Paul actually distributed these letters and signed them without reading them? Who knows?
I'm positive I'm right his stance to legalize drugs is the primary reason many of the most vocal Paul supporters support him
Paul is a self admitted Libertarian who runs as a Republican and ignores his own Party.
Originally posted by Section31 Libertarians believe 'no' government is the solution to all of our problems. We need police, military, FBI, etc... We just don't need massive government intervention. I do not trust my fellow Americans enough to say, "It is okay to leave the front door unlocked."