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I have dealt with this topic some on other threads. I have a few different takes on it depending on what is specifically being looked into
I have been thinking about that and have so far done nothing other than thinking. I need to look into it some and see if I can find some useful info. I know the ordinary things I usually look at for translation is not helpful. I think it is important and in need of investigation.
What I'm looking for is what the Greek word CHRISTOS meant before ever it was used in the LXX to translate Messiah. Surely, it had some meaning or significance.
The key to have Jesus do this for you (because he is the Messiah) and not some priest is to follow the command that came out of his mouth, the moment he came up out of the water at his baptism by John - repent.
That is the command and if one does it right, the way God teaches in the OT,
1KI 3:5 At Gibeon the LORD appeared to Solomon during the night in a dream, and God said, "Ask for whatever you want me to give you."
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1KI 9:1 When Solomon had finished building the temple of the LORD and the royal palace, and had achieved all he had desired to do, 2 the LORD appeared to him a second time, as he had appeared to him at Gibeon.
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1KI 11:9 The LORD became angry with Solomon because his heart had turned away from the LORD, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice. 10 Although he had forbidden Solomon to follow other gods, Solomon did not keep the LORD's command.
Serious repenting. I was a mess. Then one day the oil of joy showed up.
I think you might be reading more into that story than is there.
Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
reply to post by jmdewey60
He knew at the well exactly who he is because he told the Samaritan woman. He also tells us in his discourse on the Holy Spirit in the latter chapters of John, that there would come a day when he would explain things plainly to us. I'm not a wordly person, but what I"m saying is quite simple.
I like the thing about the tears. I think that is very important but they were the tears of thankfulness, according to what I was taught.
The connection is found in our tears. They are all collected and everyone accounted for. They are like nard poured upon his feet. The lady in Luke who washed Jesus' feet with her tears and dried them with her hair. Have you been that despondant? I have.
You are definitely applying your mind to this.
Water baptism washes the outside, holy cleansing fire cleanses the inside, so they can dwell in us. The baptism of the Holy Spirit is the conception of the Messiah, and then the Son of God, Jesus, becomes the Son of Man or the man child inside us.
Hesiod, Theogony line 381 - line 382 (c. 700 B.C.): "tous de met' astera tikten Heôsphoron Êrigeneia astra te lampetoônta, ta t' ouranos estephanôtai." ("And after these Erigeneia bare the star Eosphorus (Dawn-bringer), and the gleaming stars with which heaven is crowned.")
I know I posted this same stuff a long time ago but it was in connection with Lucifer. Jesus says this about himself in the end of Revelation. First there is his being the branch of David, then his being the Bright Morning Star. Is there a connection between the two things?
Two more of El and Asherah's children were twins: Shahar and Shalim, brothers of Baal. In the Babylonian pantheon, Shahar was deemed god of the dawn, and his twin brother Shalim was god of the dusk. Shahar himself also had a son, Helel. The Babylonians believed that the planet Venus, when it appeared as a star in the morning, literally was Helel, the son of Shahar, and grandson of El. They worshipped Helel the morning star and considered him one of the more important gods. They also worshipped Shamash, the god of the sun.