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The Thule Society, Skull and Bones, and George Bush's Christianity

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posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 04:18 PM
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This is very serious, I was doing some research on ancient civilizations in Central America when I stumbled across the fact that the Mayans are rumored to have originated in a land known as Tulan. One book I was reading said Tulan sounded like Thule which is a land in Antartica and the name of a Secret Society that Adolf Hitler belonged to.

I then began researching the Thule society when I discovered they were the exact counterpart of Skull and Bones in the current day and that George Bush is most likely a sexual deviant. It really angers me when people say George Bush is a "good christian" because that is generally why a lot of people I know are voting for him.

Is George Bush a Christian? Does he worship the Christian God? Let's look at some information that seems to indicate otherwise. First let's look at the beliefs of the Skull and Bones, Nazi Germany counterpart, the Thule Society. The Thule Society (en.wikipedia.org...) helped to form the Nazi Party and existed to help its members reach high positions in government to help further their own agenda. Sounds like Skull and Bones right?

Here are the beliefs of the Thule Society

- Thule was a legendary island in the far north, similar to Atlantis, supposedly the center of a lost, high-level civilization. But not all secrets of that civilization had been completely wiped out. Those that remained were being guarded by ancient, highly intelligent beings (similar to the "Masters" of Theosophy or the White Brotherhood).

- The truly initiated could establish contact with these beings by means of magic-mystical rituals.

- The "Masters" or "Ancients" allegedly would be able to endow the initiated with supernatural strength and energy.

- With the help of these energies the goal of the initiated was to create a race of Supermen of "Aryan" stock who would exterminate all "inferior" races.

(See link number 2)

That sounds exactly like the Nazi dogma that was presented to the public! Well minus the supernatural parts...

Well anyways, here is what the Thule society did in secret,

- They were Satanists who practiced Black Magic -- this means that they were "solely concerned with raising their consciousness by means of rituals to awareness of evil and nonhuman intelligences in the universe; and with achieving means of communication with these intelligences." (Ravenscroft, p. 161). Concentrate on that seemingly innocent word, rituals.

- Thule members practiced a form of Sexual Magic derived from a lodge of which Aleister Crowley was a member. Crowley was recognized as the foremost worshipper of Satan in the 19th Century. "The origin of this...medieval magic...can be traced to a Freemason, Robert Little, who founded the Societas Rosicruciana in 1865... (Ravenscroft, Spear of Destiny, p. 164-5). While the actual sexual perversions which were practiced are too offensive to share, the results are not. Author Revenscroft stated that "indulgence in the most sadistic rituals awakened penetrating vision into the workings of Evil Intelligences

-The Thule Society regularly held occultic seances, during which time they communicated with demons who were either masquerading as a dead person or who were just appearing as their guiding spirits. Dietrich Eckart, Alfred Rosenberg, and Adolf Hitler invoked the Anti-Christ into manifestation at the mediumistic seances of the Thule Group in Munich." (Ravenscroft, Spear of Destiny, p. 168) Eckert believed he had been told by his guiding spirit he would have the privilege of training the coming Great One, the Anti-Christ. From the beginning of their association, Eckert believed Hitler was Anti-Christ.

(see link #1)

So, could the Skull and Bones men be doing the same things? We don't know much of what the Skull and Bones men do on their initiation because they do hold such secrecy but...

Here is more information from link #1

The Skull and Bones also incorporates sexual activities into their practices. "The death of the initiate will be as frightful as the use of human skeletons and ritual psychology can make it..." (Esquire Magazine, "The Last Secrets of Skull and Bones", Ron Rosenbaum, p. 89). Sexual perversion is part of ritual psychology. Ron Rosenbaum, author of the Esquire Magazine article, stated that on initiation night, called tap night, "...if one could climb to the tower of Weir Hall, the odd castle that overlooks the Bones courtyard, one could hear strange cries and moans coming from the bowels of the tomb as the 15 newly tapped members were put through what sounded like a harrowing ordeal..." (Esquire, September, 1976, p. 86).

In William Cooper's book, Behold a Pale Horse, he says "...Members of the Order (Skull and Bones) take an oath that absolves them from any allegiance to any nation or king or government or constitution, and that includes the negating of any subsequent oath which they may be required to take. They swear allegiance only to the Order and its goal of a New World Order...according to the oath Bush (speaking of the first president Bush) took when he was initiated into Skull and Bones, his oath of office as President of the United States means nothing."

Since George Bush is a member of Skull and Bones and if a bonesman's oath to the presidency means nothing then dosen't his oath to God mean nothing also? Perhaps the next time Bush talks of "God's will" we might need to ask which God that is.



Sources:
1. www.meta-religion.com... iety/thule_society.htm
2. www.cephasministry.com...
3. William Cooper's Book, Behold A Pale Horse, www.amazon.com...=ord_cart_shr/002-9893059-6588868?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance



[edit on 8/19/2004 by lockheed]




posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 04:22 PM
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"- Thule members practiced a form of Sexual Magic derived from a lodge of which Aleister Crowley was a member. Crowley was recognized as the foremost worshipper of Satan in the 19th Century. "The origin of this...medieval magic...can be traced to a Freemason, Robert Little, who founded the Societas Rosicruciana in 1865... (Ravenscroft, Spear of Destiny, p. 164-5). While the actual sexual perversions which were practiced are too offensive to share, the results are not. Author Revenscroft stated that "indulgence in the most sadistic rituals awakened penetrating vision into the workings of Evil Intelligences."

Get ready for a barrage of masonic insults lol



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 04:25 PM
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Yarrgh.... I'm not saying Freemasonry is satanic by any means! Only that, the one mason in particular was responsible for the medieval magic. But yup, I will be bombarded alright.



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 04:30 PM
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The Thule I think you are referring to is not on Antarctica but on Greenland, I know of a US military base in Greenland called the Thule Base.

www.thule.af.mil...

Bilbo


[edit on 19-8-2004 by NeonHelmet]



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by DetectivePerez
"The origin of this...medieval magic...can be traced to a Freemason, Robert Little, who founded the Societas Rosicruciana in 1865... (Ravenscroft, Spear of Destiny, p. 164-5).

Get ready for a barrage of masonic insults lol


No insults -- it's just not true that the SRIA engages in anything sexual or intended to "contact evil intelligences."



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 04:35 PM
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There is a US military base there, but there is also an ancient legend of a land called Thule in Antartica. Sure its a mystical legend.... but ya never know.



posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by lockheed
This is very serious, I was doing some research on ancient civilizations in Central America when I stumbled across the fact that the Mayans are rumored to have originated in a land known as Tulan. One book I was reading said Tulan sounded like Thule which is a land in Antartica and the name of a Secret Society that Adolf Hitler belonged to.


Apparently, Thule says hitler was influenced by it, hitler says he was something of an original. I don't think that there are any membership records indicating that he belonged to it tho.


I then began researching the Thule society when I discovered they were the exact counterpart of Skull and Bones in the current day


How did you come to this conclusion? In what ways are they at all similar?

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The Thule Society (en.wikipedia.org...) helped to form the Nazi Party and existed to help its members reach high positions in government to help further their own agenda. Sounds like Skull and Bones right?


How would helping its members make it significantly like the nazis party?

Thule apparently was a quasi-mystic poltical activist group, one of many upon many. Some members of the Thule society became higher up nazis, and some members of other societies became higher up nazis.


(Ravenscroft, Spear of Destiny, p. 168)


Do you have any information regarding this book? I am unfamiliar with it.



Sexual perversion is part of ritual psychology. Ron Rosenbaum, author of the Esquire Magazine article, stated that on initiation night, called tap night, "...if one could climb to the tower of Weir Hall, the odd castle that overlooks the Bones courtyard, one could hear strange cries and moans coming from the bowels of the tomb as the 15 newly tapped members were put through what sounded like a harrowing ordeal..." (Esquire, September, 1976, p. 86).


How is that evidence of anything?


In William Cooper's book, Behold a Pale Horse, he says "...Members of the Order (Skull and Bones) take an oath that absolves them from any allegiance to any nation or king or government or constitution,


Why would SnB take an oath against other governments when its a society that operates out of an american college? Granted, they were supposed to have existed before the revolution, but either way it looks like there is only one government that they are concerned with.




[edit on 20-8-2004 by Nygdan]



posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 12:49 PM
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They have only the best in mind for the world......take Albert Pike for example..............LOL



posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by omega007
They have only the best in mind for the world......take Albert Pike for example..............LOL


Ummm... any examples of what you mean? Or do we simply take your LOL as sufficient proof the Freemasons are eeeeevil?



posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 03:55 PM
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LOL is all the evidence we need!
LOL=FACT
LOL= PROOF

Bilbo



posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 05:17 PM
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Good questions Nygdan

Ravenscroft's book Spear of Destiny is about Hitler and the Nazi's obsession with Occult Practices and artifacts. And most of the book contains the story of their obtaining the Spear of Loginus (the spear which pierced Jesus' side) and they planned to use it to further their supernatural powers.

The ways in which the Thule Society and Skull and Bones are similar is that they enlist young members, put them through an initiation that involves sexual deviance, and then forces them to swear allegiance to the organization.

Skull and Bones dosen't care about America, it merely wants to use America to further the a New World Order agenda that is also being carried out by groups like the Bilderburgs and Illuminatis.

The main place that the above evidence dosen't hold up is the sexual practices of skull and bones members. We just plain don't know. But we do know some of what goes on at Bohemian Grove, and those occurances point to George Bush being a sexual deviant satanist too. I will post more on Bohemian Grove later. Or you can check out www.alexjones.com in the meantime.



posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 08:04 PM
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Alright, this may get pretty long, so i'll try to give you a reader's digest first.
I'm going to look up Thule, the Spear of Destiny, maybe some Nazi history, and that base/city in Greenland.
What I want to do is cut through any assumptions or disinformation (as I am surprised by the amount of unsupported information that has been provided about these "secret" societies) and assess the likelihood of the idea that Bush has a nazi/occult connection.


THULE:
1. A semi-mythical land often associated with Scandenavia. First mentioned by Pytheas of Massala in the 4th century BC, and described as 6 days north of Britain. Ultima Thule became a Roman expression meaning any place beyond the known world.

2. A- The ancestors of the Inuit people, who entered Alaska around AD 500, Canada in 1000 and Greenland around 1200. B- Also a town now known as Qaanaaq. The town was named for the mythical Thule- not the other way around. C- An airforce base used for early warning by Norad. Pending upgrade to X-band radar. The world's northernmost deep-water port. Site of a 1968 B-2 crash in which locals suspect 1 of 4 hydrogen bombs was never recovered- 1 pound of plutonium contaminated the region in the incident.

3. The southernmost island of the South Sandwich archipelago. The archipelago's ownership is disputed between Britain and Argentina. Norweigian military presence has been on and off since WWII, and ended in 2001. Although not inhabited, they were defended against potential Japanese invasion during WWII by Norway (they are home to a whaling station).

4. The Thule you've all been waiting for: An early predecessor to the Nazi party.
The German Thule Society was founded by Baron Rudolf von Sebottendorff in 1912. In 1918 Thule bought the Munich Observer and renamed it the People's Observer.
In 1919, another Thule member named Dietrich Eckart formed the German Workers Party with with Gottfried Feder and Anton Drexler.
In 1920 Eckart got the party to buy the Peoples Observor and he became editor.
In April 1920, the party was renamed the NSDAP- or Nazi party.


(excuse the slow development of this post... the research into Thule's membership takes a little time to do in detail, and it's been a busy evening. Edit pending)

[edit on 21-8-2004 by The Vagabond]




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