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Originally posted by FriendlyGopher
No sorry you are incorrect, there is no source that confirms he was real.
Your sources are tainted with misinterpretation, come back when you have real evidence.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Here are links to some non-biblical sources that speak of Christ, many accounts from Romans themselves, in either the first century A.D. or the early part of the second century A.D.
www.gotquestions.org...
www.sowhataboutjesus.com...
Originally posted by FriendlyGopher
No sorry you are incorrect, there is no source that confirms he was real.
No sorry you are incorrect, there is no source that confirms he was real.
Your sources are tainted with misinterpretation, come back when you have real evidence.
Originally posted by Seed76
reply to post by FriendlyGopher
No sorry you are incorrect, there is no source that confirms he was real.
Pics or didn´t happened.
Your sources are tainted with misinterpretation, come back when you have real evidence.
And yet, you present no source at all in order to refute his/her claims about the secular sources.
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Originally posted by windword
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Here are links to some non-biblical sources that speak of Christ, many accounts from Romans themselves, in either the first century A.D. or the early part of the second century A.D.
www.gotquestions.org...
www.sowhataboutjesus.com...
I don't see how you can state that these are non-christian sites. They clearly are. There isn't really any PROOF, that the same Jesus, that charactor from the Bible, which has been written and rewritten, is the same individual that people have rumoured to have met or heard about.
It's easy to insert fiction inot historical texts after the fact.
Sorry, it seems like a bad case of the "telephone game."
The SITES are christian sites, the information they contain is from men who were pagans and worshipped other gods and they didnt rumor anything, they wrote about what they had heard from people,
stories of men who could heal the sick and raise the dead would spread like a wildfire in the dog days of a texan august.
It's easy to insert fiction inot historical texts after the fact.
The first-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate historians of the ancient world, mentioned superstitious “Christians” (from Christus, which is Latin for Christ), who suffered under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius.
Tacitus, the Roman historian's birth year at 64 C.E., puts him well after the alleged life of Jesus. He gives a brief mention of a "Christus" in his Annals (Book XV, Sec. 44), which he wrote around 109 C.E.
Publius (or Gaius) Cornelius Tacitus (AD 56 – AD 117) was a senator and a historian of the Roman Empire. The surviving portions of his two major works—the Annals and the Histories—examine the reigns of the Roman Emperors Tiberius, Claudius, Nero and those who reigned in the Year of the Four Emperors. These two works span the history of the Roman Empire from the death of Augustus in AD 14 to (presumably) the death of emperor Domitian in AD 96. There are enormous lacunae in the surviving texts, including one four books long in the Annals.
He gives no source for his material. Although many have disputed the authenticity of Tacitus' mention of Jesus, the very fact that his birth happened after the alleged Jesus and wrote the Annals during the formation of Christianity, shows that his writing can only provide us with hearsay accounts.
Annals XV,44
Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome...