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Originally posted by loam
What a wonderful way to ensure that when he's released as an adult, he'll become the very animal they think he is now.
Originally posted by loam
Ponder for a moment the fact that our government has this power to throw a 12 year old child in prison with ADULTS.
Originally posted by loam
How different is this from the Taliban?
Originally posted by Brokenbackrest
Originally posted by The Empty Skies
Originally posted by Brokenbackrest
He's a psychopath, end of discussion.
It must be so comfortable and easy living with such a narrowed view of the world. Sometimes I envy people like you. Then I remember how dull it is seeing everything black and white
Good luck with it though. You're doing a great job.edit on 19/8/11 by The Empty Skies because: Removing the Black Hole
This is how it works: when you murder someone, you go to jail. There is no variables here, the only way to look at it is "Black and White". I'm sure in your liberal world, you will have given him a home and paid him some compensation for causing him stress and concern during the investigation.
Originally posted by The Empty Skies
Aha, there they are, the "liberal" attacks. Didn't see that coming. And no, I wouldn't do anything as absurd as your over-active imagination has lead you to believe of me.
Not that it needs to be said, but anyone with an iota of reason within themselves would know that what this kid needs isn't 30 years in a prison cell. What this kid needs (if he is guilty) is serious rehabilitation - and by "rehabilitation" I don't mean "throw him in a cell for 30 years to rot".
If he is guilty he needs detention, certainly, but with that detention should come stability and it most certainly shouldn't be for 30 years.
I don't really have much to add because I know what kind of person you are and can tell that it'd probably be more productive to bash the keyboard incessantly until I've produced an entire essay of gibberish.
Originally posted by kn0wh0wyou're so sure of yourself.
then care to explain how 'solitary confinement' is helping people?
and how many us inmates say the current system is making them worse.
and when you think about it, it's not that farfetched.
inmates:
- need to fend for themselves in prison
- they'll get egoistic/agressiv and most have a short temper
- are deprived of all luxury items in life (IMHO very very wrong)
- are out of society for 10-15-20-25 years, try 'reintegrating' in society when you were out of it for 25 years. society moves on, prison life does not.
imho
offenders being excluded from 'normal' society is the punishment, the prison itself doesn't have to be a second punishment.
Originally posted by habfan1968
I have a really good idea, don't like prison and missing out on the luxuries in life, don't be a criminal!
Let's just pat them on the back and warn them not to do it again instead?
Is solitary confinement used for every prisoner or just the ones that break some rules while in prison? Don't break the rules!
Originally posted by Brokenbackrest
Originally posted by loam
What a wonderful way to ensure that when he's released as an adult, he'll become the very animal they think he is now.
He already is an animal.
Originally posted by Brokenbackrest
Originally posted by loam
Ponder for a moment the fact that our government has this power to throw a 12 year old child in prison with ADULTS.
When said 12 year old kills someone, I would expect nothing less.
Wabash Valley Correctional Facility
Originally posted by Brokenbackrest
Originally posted by loam
How different is this from the Taliban?
Uh, the Taliban are fighting western invaders in their homeland whilst this child was sentenced to prison and got a lesser sentence than what may have been applied for an adult who committed a similar crime.
Originally posted by loam
Then that explains much.
You see the Taliban as 'freedom fighters'... Already I see much of this discussion with you is likely pointless.
edit on 19-8-2011 by loam because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JennaDarling
WIth so many laws passed by government, everybody is a criminal at some point in their lives usually out of ignorance.
That is what annoys me when people take their soap box and spout "so don't be a ciminal then", well that is very hard to do. What you really mean is, DONT GET CAUGHT.
edit on 19-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by habfan1968
reply to post by kn0wh0w
Your ideal prison would not work. Never mind that there are victims to these crimes, where is the justice for them?
Originally posted by habfan1968
Originally posted by JennaDarling
WIth so many laws passed by government, everybody is a criminal at some point in their lives usually out of ignorance.
That is what annoys me when people take their soap box and spout "so don't be a ciminal then", well that is very hard to do. What you really mean is, DONT GET CAUGHT.
edit on 19-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)
Petty crimes and misdemeanors are not at issue here Jenna, it is high crimes we are talking about. People take a life, destroy a life etc... and found guilty of these crimes should be dealt with harshly.
Originally posted by JennaDarling
Originally posted by habfan1968
Originally posted by JennaDarling
WIth so many laws passed by government, everybody is a criminal at some point in their lives usually out of ignorance.
That is what annoys me when people take their soap box and spout "so don't be a ciminal then", well that is very hard to do. What you really mean is, DONT GET CAUGHT.
edit on 19-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)
Petty crimes and misdemeanors are not at issue here Jenna, it is high crimes we are talking about. People take a life, destroy a life etc... and found guilty of these crimes should be dealt with harshly.
Absolutely right, we should murder them back, it's called the death penalty.
There is nothing hypocritical in that at all, it shows a GOOD example of a good civilised society.
edit on 19-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JennaDarling
Originally posted by habfan1968
Originally posted by JennaDarling
WIth so many laws passed by government, everybody is a criminal at some point in their lives usually out of ignorance.
That is what annoys me when people take their soap box and spout "so don't be a ciminal then", well that is very hard to do. What you really mean is, DONT GET CAUGHT.
edit on 19-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)
Petty crimes and misdemeanors are not at issue here Jenna, it is high crimes we are talking about. People take a life, destroy a life etc... and found guilty of these crimes should be dealt with harshly.
Absolutely right, we should murder them back, it's called the death penalty.
There is nothing hypocritical in that at all, it shows a GOOD example of a good civilised society.
edit on 19-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by kn0wh0w
Originally posted by JennaDarling
Originally posted by habfan1968
Originally posted by JennaDarling
WIth so many laws passed by government, everybody is a criminal at some point in their lives usually out of ignorance.
That is what annoys me when people take their soap box and spout "so don't be a ciminal then", well that is very hard to do. What you really mean is, DONT GET CAUGHT.
edit on 19-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)
Petty crimes and misdemeanors are not at issue here Jenna, it is high crimes we are talking about. People take a life, destroy a life etc... and found guilty of these crimes should be dealt with harshly.
Absolutely right, we should murder them back, it's called the death penalty.
There is nothing hypocritical in that at all, it shows a GOOD example of a good civilised society.
edit on 19-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)
exactly!
for the death penalty to be executed you allways create a second killer because someone:
- has to pull the trigger
- has to flip the switch
- has to give the lethal injection
so yeah.
fixing murder with murder.
we're really evolving as a species don't you think!?