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We have not made contact.. Aliens do not exist..

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posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by Explanation
 


You couldn't just bump the other threads like this one? Cool story

And as far as proof, I could post the videos with retired military officers talking about UFOs shutting down nuclear missiles. But you got it all figured out don't ya?
edit on 18-8-2011 by Swills because: (no reason given)


As you said, videos of them TALKING about shooting down nuclear missiles..... but they claimed the footage was confiscated.... so the OP is correct, it's all heresay. An interview of someone claiming something isn't proof.... it's not evidence. I hate to break it to you but tons of people in the military are, in fact, nuts... just like the people in the white house.... nuts.




posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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For what it is worth aliens don't really care what we think about their existance and would just assume we should continue to think they don't exist. The truth is the oldest races are not seen by any other races unless there is something major going down. If an alien tells you he is from one of the oldest races he is lieing. None of them seem to know how old the "universe" is for lack of better word. We humans have no clue about what is going on in our own solar system little alone a "universe".

Most systems are binary; so is ours. Happy hunting for Sol Sister.



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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How do you know that at least one person hasn't made contact? You must have talked to every single human being that ever lived. Fail.



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by Explanation

Originally posted by Wide-Eyes
I will say it again...

Obvious troll probably laughing at everyones replies.

DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!!

20 pages, wtf? And I am adding to it
, I'm out.

First off thanks for the trollish PM you sent me claiming I was after stars and flags.. I really don't value meaningless "points".

Yeah and the mods said about 3 times that if you don't agree, don't post in this topic. It kinda seems like like common sense now..yet you posted the same thing 2-3 times now? Shouldn't you have "been out" after the first time you complained? Somehow you seem to a bit of a troll in my opinion.

Under your logic sense this is a topic in which you disagree, so the OP must be a troll, and that kinda of logic is really kinda sad in my opinion.

Anyway... I would like to thank the mods and others for trying to get this topic to "calm down", and cleaning up the topic.
edit on 19-8-2011 by Explanation because: (no reason given)


I have been waiting for I don't know how many pages for you to answer my questions.. everything I've asked pertains to your "opinion" and with all the responses you've gotten you've been more occupied with responding to the negativity than the ones who want feedback as to why you have made to be, what I consider, outlandish claims.. so please floors open and im waiting. Thanks.

31b



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by pjslug

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by Explanation
 


You couldn't just bump the other threads like this one? Cool story

And as far as proof, I could post the videos with retired military officers talking about UFOs shutting down nuclear missiles. But you got it all figured out don't ya?
edit on 18-8-2011 by Swills because: (no reason given)


As you said, videos of them TALKING about shooting down nuclear missiles..... but they claimed the footage was confiscated.... so the OP is correct, it's all heresay. An interview of someone claiming something isn't proof.... it's not evidence. I hate to break it to you but tons of people in the military are, in fact, nuts... just like the people in the white house.... nuts.


So let me get this straight.....if you choose to serve your country in the military....the majority are nutz....thus a high probability that you are nutz? The Military is like any dept., branch, company, school or orginization that is home to a wide cross section of people....some good....some bad....some smart...some dumb....etc.

As far as serving in a branch of the military...while certain branches tend to be compromised of specific minded people....such as described by the toughness of a Marine....or contenance and skill of a submariner....I would not be quick to label the majority as nutz.

Unless you have served....I would think that these types of statements should be reserved to your thoughts.
Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity

Originally posted by pjslug

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by Explanation
 


You couldn't just bump the other threads like this one? Cool story

And as far as proof, I could post the videos with retired military officers talking about UFOs shutting down nuclear missiles. But you got it all figured out don't ya?
edit on 18-8-2011 by Swills because: (no reason given)


As you said, videos of them TALKING about shooting down nuclear missiles..... but they claimed the footage was confiscated.... so the OP is correct, it's all heresay. An interview of someone claiming something isn't proof.... it's not evidence. I hate to break it to you but tons of people in the military are, in fact, nuts... just like the people in the white house.... nuts.


So let me get this straight.....if you choose to serve your country in the military....the majority are nutz....thus a high probability that you are nutz? The Military is like any dept., branch, company, school or orginization that is home to a wide cross section of people....some good....some bad....some smart...some dumb....etc.

As far as serving in a branch of the military...while certain branches tend to be compromised of specific minded people....such as described by the toughness of a Marine....or contenance and skill of a submariner....I would not be quick to label the majority as nutz.

Unless you have served....I would think that these types of statements should be reserved to your thoughts.
Split Infinity


I agree, SI. My observations while in the military myself was that most of us were pretty sane. They do psych evals to ensure that (I won't swear by that when it comes to the army though! *lol*).

Not that the combat experience can't knock you off your rocker with that PSTD stuff, but in general, I've met far more 'crazy' people out here in the civilian world than I ever met in the military. And yah, we Marines are tough!! Urrah! *lol*



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, the most confusing(for me) witness testimony of UFO phenomena are those that come from those individuals in the military. I don't see a motive to make these stories up, unless they are selling a book or making money in using the stories. I don't think anyone can definitely know if extraterrestrials have visited this planet or if they even exist for that matter. There are so many hoaxes circulating on the web and elsewhere. I guess I look at it this way....if there are extraterrestrials out there and they are visiting this planet, then what am I to do about it? Nothing, but I do find it interesting and fun to read about UFO stories and such. I guess for me I find it entertaining. It lets my imagination wonder and create what ifs.. with that I believe that I don't take it too seriously because like I said earlier, what can I do about it?



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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We have not made contact... Aliens do not exist...


And the earth is flat and we are the center of the Universe.



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Yes...URRAH! Crazy Ass Jarheads! LOL! I have family members currently serving and one of them...not now active....USAF F-15 pilot....has told me the specifics on what is the current procedure of reporting after encountering a UFO.

Needless to say it is so detailed and invasive that most never report. This is also true for commercial pilots. It is part of a concentrated effort to debunk, ridicule and threaten ones job by possible psychological evaluation. I wouldn't report it either. Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Yes...URRAH! Crazy Ass Jarheads! LOL! I have family members currently serving and one of them...not now active....USAF F-15 pilot....has told me the specifics on what is the current procedure of reporting after encountering a UFO.

Needless to say it is so detailed and invasive that most never report. This is also true for commercial pilots. It is part of a concentrated effort to debunk, ridicule and threaten ones job by possible psychological evaluation. I wouldn't report it either. Split Infinity


Yah, the PTB aka the Illuminati (current face organization NWO) don't even want us knowing about the fact that there are aliens. While I may sound whacko to say so, I went on a shaman journey about 10 years ago, and got unintentionally hooked up with the human racial unconscious. All of what is known to humanity (and there is a LOT known about aliens and such because so many aliens died and have ended up reincarnating as humans [another little ditty the Illuminati don't even want you knowing about]) is available there. It is sorta like finding info on the internet though. You have to know where to look or have a good search engine!

Anyway, from what I see there, part of the reason the Illuminate don't want us knowing about aliens is because the top 3 or 4 leaders are actually still aliens aka the Jue-sah (we've continued to mispronouce that as Jews). And well, humanity has proven many many times over that when we get scared or pissed, we can be far more dangerous than any other species, and they so don't want to have us realize that, and in our xenophobia go after them. There isn't any other species in the universe that can create the things we can, and if we really wanted to get them, we'd find a way, even if they are 3 miles under the mountain range, or 10 miles under the sea in the deep trenches.

I'm guessing if you were involved with government ops, then you were seeing the Jue-sah's allies; not a nice bunch at all. But what most people aren't seeing is that the Jue-sah's time is coming to an end here via the 'tribulation'. That is *their* tribulation brought to them courtesy of the E-l*th (we mispronunce it Elves),

But it isn't likely you would have seen them because there were so few here until recently. They mostly were just keeping the Jue-sah from breaking the contract we (the overarching sentience of our racial unconscious) have with them. But that contract ends in 2012... that's why that's such an important time. And once it's done, the E-l*th are going to remove them from this planet, because the Jue-sah are going to fail big time in meeting the conditions of that contract. But knowing the Jue-sah as I do, they aren't going to leave quietly, and more importantly they aren't going to even admit they failed, even though the overarching sentience of humanity and the Elven leadership see very clearly that they have.

So yah, they're doing everything in their power to prevent us from knowing that stuff, but it's going to end soon, and we will all know who and what they really are. That's why they are setting up the Dracs as the bad guys.. to take the fall for them while they try to slip out the back door. But they have the Elves to contend with too, so it isn't likely they'll get away.

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posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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Here is my problem with the UFO thing, I cannot see a advanced civilization flying all over the universe only to crash in AZ. First, they should have figured out the landing thing? How do you crash if you make it across thousands of light years, what no air bags in space. Second, you crash land in Vegas, everyone knows that



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by bbuchh
Here is my problem with the UFO thing, I cannot see a advanced civilization flying all over the universe only to crash in AZ. First, they should have figured out the landing thing? How do you crash if you make it across thousands of light years, what no air bags in space. Second, you crash land in Vegas, everyone knows that


From what I see of the greys in the racial unconscious, they are local. All of them ended up here because they were trying to figure out how not to go extinct. Plus their forte is working on living things at a molecular level, not really big enginey type things. Consequently their equipment malfunctioned, and down they went. And really.. a grey group partying in Vegas??? That'd be a sight to see. Everyone would probably think it was just a PR stunt! *lol*



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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I am confused why these threads get so many pages and stars and attention. We see about one a month. Same thing: "I don't believe in UFOs. There is no proof. I've not shaken an aliens hand, it's all fake!" And people respond and respond and respond.

OP was asked about the more prominent cases, he has ignored them completely. Probably because he has never researched a paragraph combined on all those cases.

OP: Again, if you are so certain that all cases are explainable, then PLEASE EXPLAIN the more prominent cases out there. In particular, please explain the Phoenix Lights (pre and post flares), the Tehran sighting in 1976, Roswell, the more recent sightings in Stephenville Texas, JAS flight 1628, and well... ok, here..

Top 100 UFO cases

Here is the top 100 UFO cases. Knock yourself out. If you are so certain that all sightings are mundane in nature, you should be able to easily tell us what all these were. Please avoid: military project - military project - Jupiter - military project - Venus.

If all UFOs are explainable, this should be cake for you.



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by bbuchh
Here is my problem with the UFO thing, I cannot see a advanced civilization flying all over the universe only to crash in AZ. First, they should have figured out the landing thing? How do you crash if you make it across thousands of light years, what no air bags in space. Second, you crash land in Vegas, everyone knows that


Well, if you are not used to flying in gravity.. if your spacecraft are designed primarily for gravity-free flight, you could run into complications. Also, they could have run afoul of our own technology.

Stanton Friedman's theory is that the radar array which normally would be shut off, was just left on constantly in the desert, as there were no flights over this area. Going through that, two craft collided, and the result were the two separate UFO crashes in that area.

Regardless, just because a species was advanced, hardly makes them invulnerable.



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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wow people just cannot let it go, they are so fixed on the belief that aliens exist, without a shredd of undeniable hard evidence and proof, yet some of these people dont even believe in god, what a contradiction.........

its actually sad someone is willing to believe aliens exist rather than god, and someone thinks we should spend our money exploring the cosmos, which is the most ludacrous idea ive ever heard, this isnt star trek

we cant just boar dour starship enterprise and waste our time and resources exploring a dark space so huge, that even light takes an eternity to travel through.

come on people, aliens just do no exist they never have, some people have wasted their entire lives believing they do, and failed in doing so, look what happen to SETI, they cut funds because its a wild goose chase.

its all fiction and imagination but when someone wants to believe E.T exists so badly, they will convince themselves and become feeble minded, as well as blind



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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amen brutha amen!
Threads with titles like this are obvious shills for some sort of subversive wrangling and should be dispatched as such!




posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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I'd first like to say...

Congratulations Everyone! You've just been troll'ed!!!

Cmon', we've seen hundreds of posts like this made just to get UFOlogists riled up. Shame on you if you even consider anything the OP mentioned


But to the OP...

You keep mentioning logic saying that "there is no proof of ET life therefore it doesn't exist".

To you OP I challenge... logically of course:

Prove to me that it doesn't exist!
Only after you've microscopically searched each individual rock or matter on each individual planet in each individual galaxy, in the entire universe, or this universe (for the multi-verse theorists), can you correctly state: "There is no proof of ET life therefore it doesn't exist".


Since it's physically impossible for you to do that in even many lifetimes, your arguement (because that's all your aim was in this) is null, and void.

Good day... or rather I hope you have a bad one... trolls never have good days. Let's keep it that way.

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posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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What??? They can cross the universe and yet Gravity messes with them, Next?



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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What??? They can cross the universe and yet Gravity messes with them, Next?


What do the two have to do with one another? It is theorized that their crafts propulsion is based on gravity. That being the base, opposing gravity could cause issues. Think two opposed magnets.

P.S. Try to maintain some civility.



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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Bare with me, I have been drinking, it is Friday

Prove to me that it doesn't exist! Prove a Negative? That is like saying Prove God does not exist. So aliens? grays? are doing what? why would humans be of any interest? We can not figure out banking? come one, they are aliens, what possible good (the good at which all things aim - Socrates or Luigi) could be here.

We were going to fake an alien invasion so they can increase gov spending to create jobs? Alcohol, is there nothing it can not do



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