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Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
So much to respond to, it would take me forever to break down your post bit by bit and respond to it that way, so I won't respond like that. I wasn't expecting that much passion in your post, but you got me listening.
I would like to say that there is a huge component of love in all of this that is paramount to the understanding of intelligent energy and the universe as intelligent energy. I'm not being apathetic. There is a difference between empathy and sympathy. I feel for the ones experiencing hardship and I know how that feels, but I'm not about to put myself in their shoes at this point. The point of life is to get away from that feeling of hopelessness.
When the time comes to make a decision whether or not you want to do it all again, I believe you will be free to make that decision on your own, but by then you will have a deeper understanding of the cyclical nature of the universe and know that it is necessary to continue the learning process. I imagine its cyclical like musical notes. You go through different levels of increasing vibration, only to start again going through the same information except starting again in a higher frequency octave for a more intense experience of the purity of that information.
Love/joy is what we are learning. As we grow, we experience love in different ways. In the earlier stages of the universe, love/joy is what excites the intelligent energy into action and continues to do so till this day, except the way it was experienced in the early stages was hardly experienced at all. Then, by the animator, love/joy, intelligent energy was molded into forms of increasing degrees of complexity so that each increased degree of complexity would come to be able to experience love more and more as it really is, and that is the purpose of the universe.
The driving force, and the animator of everything, is love/joy, and although not fully understood and experienced purely, it is this force that is the perfection of our being.
With that said, now I will switch gears and get into absolute speculation about the experience of love, so that by your feedback, I can be able to understand what of what I am saying is true. Love is the initiator. The early stages of intelligent energy if somehow it could hold a memory of the initiation, would remember the initiation as a violent explosion. This narrow perspective would then perceive God to be an angry God. In the early stages of intelligent energy, this love that is God would be strongly misinterpreted but that misinterpretation is an expected reaction to the memory of the initial explosion.
As the intelligent energy increases in its complexity of form to be able to discern higher degrees of information, it realizes that the universe isn't such a scary place after all and that the beginning stages of uncertainty were just a misinterpretation of something that is much more benevolent. At this stage in development, the intelligent energy complex form would be somewhere at a crossroads in how it experiences reality. This crossroads would manifest as what you now know of as duality. It would be stuck in the middle somewhere, still getting over the initial shock of the 'big bang', but also eagerly looking forward to something that is pure and benevolent.
So, being that this is where we are at now, it is logical to assume that eventually, this shock will be all but forgotten and we will continue to immerse ourselves more purely in divine thinking and deep discernment of the nature of love/joy.
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
I appreciate that well thought out post, but this that you are saying supports my greatest fears.
you see, there is no beginning and there is no end and since the past kinda looks like it sucked even more than the present it suggests a flux of karma... suggesting we DO start all over somehow! OH NO!
I HATE STARTING OVER.
Look, the sign are all around... why are the animals different than us? Why are they subject to us?
We are them, why do we treat them badly? I do not understand this. There is clearly a morality issue going on and karma is all around us in pain and suffering. I personally think it could be improved but I am not understanding how we have to start over but all signs point to that. If we are all one why is all this crap happening if there is no negative?
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
I appreciate that well thought out post, but this that you are saying supports my greatest fears.
you see, there is no beginning and there is no end and since the past kinda looks like it sucked even more than the present it suggests a flux of karma... suggesting we DO start all over somehow! OH NO!
I HATE STARTING OVER.
Look, the sign are all around... why are the animals different than us? Why are they subject to us?
We are them, why do we treat them badly? I do not understand this. There is clearly a morality issue going on and karma is all around us in pain and suffering. I personally think it could be improved but I am not understanding how we have to start over but all signs point to that. If we are all one why is all this crap happening if there is no negative?
Its okay, because this is just the beginning and there are wonders and peace ahead. When the end comes, if there is one, and it is time to start over, you will do it only because you want to and by then, you will know that to do so is appropriate so you will willingly go.
At this time, you have free will, or apparent free will. You can learn how to create a peaceful environment around you.
The perceived negativity is due to misunderstanding. In time we will understand, and we will move beyond that.
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
I might be understanding a little more after sitting here a while. The circle is incomprehensively huge... bigger... even bigger. So many thoughts crossing my mind. I saw another sign. A significant rash of highly conceptual graffiti art in modern culturally influential cities is the harlots tattoo work.
I'll probably have to take a nap here in a while but I am wanting to learn something about smelting of planetary bodies and what are the exact components of stardust. Vague sounding to word it that way but I suppose it's a very broad subject.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
I might be understanding a little more after sitting here a while. The circle is incomprehensively huge... bigger... even bigger. So many thoughts crossing my mind. I saw another sign. A significant rash of highly conceptual graffiti art in modern culturally influential cities is the harlots tattoo work.
I'll probably have to take a nap here in a while but I am wanting to learn something about smelting of planetary bodies and what are the exact components of stardust. Vague sounding to word it that way but I suppose it's a very broad subject.
So what were you talking about that happened last night while you were in the store?
What do you mean by smelting of planetary bodies? In what context?
The components of stardust are:
The first 26 elements, hydrogen through iron are created by fusion in the sun. Except for hydrogen, element number one, the lightest of all elements. Hydrogen comes from pure energy. After the big bang, there was a short period of time of cooling down from that massive explosion. Small quantum particles began to form, eventually leading up to the formation of hydrogen. From there, hydrogen comes together by gravity and a star is born. Something like that. The heavier elements from iron and beyond are created by supernova explosions when a star reaches the end of its life.
Relatively large (to us) amounts of these elements can come together by gravity to form a planet.
edit on 23-8-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Black Satin Dancer
I suppose i did have a want, i didn't want to hurt and suffer anymore. I was on my knees begging for it to stop. This is true.
You don't get less because you don't want. I deny the Self nothing. There is just no want for it to be different. It is ok as it is.edit on 23-8-2011 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
It is as though we have to experience all things, it is a game. We see the things of the world and don't notice ourselves, not our real selves, that is why we feel so lost. We have to hide behind all that we have been taught to be or been called and we have not checked to see if any of it is true or needed. We have lost touch with what we really are and it hurts so bad. So bad that we try to remove the pain anyway we can. Searching, wanting, looking, where is it? That thing that will take the pain away. We think we have found it, we are happy for a little while and then we are off again. Never ending, all your life if you want, lol. What you are looking for, what everyone is looking for, is the real self.
It is the only cure.
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
You can only ever be constrained by your mind.
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
You can only ever be constrained by your mind.
I don't see it. I cannot see it that way. Why should I blame myself? If no one else is to blame then how is my mind constraining me? My mind seems to be working more clearly than I can ever recall.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
You can only ever be constrained by your mind.
I don't see it. I cannot see it that way. Why should I blame myself? If no one else is to blame then how is my mind constraining me? My mind seems to be working more clearly than I can ever recall.
The mind is a receiver of informational input. If the mind is free from obstruction, the information can enter in undiluted and the truth will be seen in all its glory.
If the mind is tainted in some way or another, whether by unnecessary chemicals such as alcohol or by false beliefs, then the mind will interpret the pure incoming information in its own way in accordance with the obstructions within the brain.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
blacksatindancer, I just created another thread which you can view HERE that will comfort you in regards to "starting over".
The information goes into great detail about what I have been talking about and I would really appreciate it if you read it.