posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 04:21 AM
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Black Satin Dancer
Who am i? What do i know?
I am no one.
However, i have offered you the best teachers during this thread and i know that if you watch them and hear them you will see that mind made suffering
can be eliminated.
Ultimately it is up to you now. You choose.
I can not stress enough that it is possible, that is why i keep posting videos so you can see that it is not just me that knows this.
Listen to the speakers. Just let the words wash over you. Turn the music off and listen to what these people say and know that they are pointing to
This is Eckhart Tolle:
edit on 27-8-2011 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
I do not doubt you that mind made suffering can be eliminated. I never did.
That doesn't mean though, that i think that all suffering which is *perceived* by the mind can be eliminated.
One of the most important jobs of the mind is to detect suffering... at least the way I figure, that is a primary function. However, I also know that
one of the minds functions is to work contrary to the current train of thought, an interesting aspect of the mind and why many people who are not
crazy think they are but is also the reason for any perceived sanity that exists- the ability to question and reason.
My point is that there are many circumstances where this concept will not be upheld, I feel... and that is where severe suffering is going on, which
unfortunately is where this type of thing would be needed most. There is a time when you should see the glass half full even against adversity for the
sake of your own happiness, but there is a time when you must acknowledge suffering so that you can cry out against it. The mind was made to
acknowledge... to be aware of the experience, and part of the experience is suffering. Progression might make this less of an occurrence (??) but we
are still within the station of becoming aware. These are things to *strive for* not things that *are* (elimination of suffering)... so i asked about
the person who cannot see any light in any tunnel,because who knows... that information could be useful one day for anyone who might experience
something that cannot be helped, which will likely be all of us and the only thing i have come up with so far for the hopeless is to sing your own
dirge!... but this thread doesn't seem to approve of that type of complaint.
The line is clearly there to be drawn when this mindset that nothing is suffering ends and the lamenting begins.
I'm just trying to establish where that line is and how it is worked around, dealt with.
Surely you would understand how I thought you may have some thoughts on this.
if you do not, you do not. I still maintain that suffering itself serves a function.