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I am all for spreading awareness, but I see a lot of Missconceptions and FUD on ATS.
I want people to spread the full facts, not one sided or distorted or made up things as fact.
Rioting does not solve things, it just gives justication to the governmetn to do what they want.
The most power a person has over anybody, is having nothing to do with them, you can see that in daily life, when somebody is being an idiot, aruging, just walk away, instead of getting into an arugment which they want., Europe has the same power, they simply have nothing to do with a country, countries fear being outside looking in.
However, my reference to the Met was more send them an anonymous mail highlighting ATS as a source of malcontent against the UK and possibility of inciting riots lol. They would be monitoring it and given that ATS is a LLC company in America (Limited liability as in the UK), they would get a call and also has to follow laws as company entities do.
Originally posted by coffeesniffer
reply to post by Griffo
Isnt this the same as the too big to fail scenario we had with the banks. A euro member defaulting is too much for the euro to stand so its either bail them our or dissolve the euro.
Im guessing the global ripple effect of the euro zone regressing back to their sovereign currencies would be huge, kinda too big to fail?
Anyhow the systems all look kinda #ed to me and the spasms we are seeing in the markets are the death throws…we live in interesting times
Originally posted by sapien82
reply to post by wcitizen
Even on the scale of the one European government , they would fail drastically , our countries cant even manage that alone , let alone the whole conntinent of Europe.
It's really enraging that we suposedly live in democratic countries and we have no real say in how they are run , yet we use our democratic armies to install fake democracy around the world, and joe public stands by it all and doesnt do anything to address the situation.
How many movements is it going to take before something is done about these global cartels , isntead of us debating , why dont we use our combined intelligence and formualte a plan of our own , not in the way that Anonymous has done or anyone other group . We need real action which can effect these banks and oligarchs.
Im fed up of hearing how our governments are stealing from us and using our money to kill innocent people overseas. Persons involved need to be held accountable and face the law , like every human being should if they are guilty of crimes
Originally posted by wcitizen
There's a push in the UK, led by one of the main newspapers, to get UK out of Europe. They're pushing for a referendum. It has huge support. Cameron has already said he won't agree to a referendum.
I have no doubt that a referendum now would be a landslide to dismantle Europe - hence the politicians who DO NOT have our best interests at heart, will never agree to a referendum.
Both the government and the people have forgotten that government is there to obey the people and not the other way round.
Originally posted by Sirrurg
Originally posted by wcitizen
There's a push in the UK, led by one of the main newspapers, to get UK out of Europe. They're pushing for a referendum. It has huge support. Cameron has already said he won't agree to a referendum.
I have no doubt that a referendum now would be a landslide to dismantle Europe - hence the politicians who DO NOT have our best interests at heart, will never agree to a referendum.
Both the government and the people have forgotten that government is there to obey the people and not the other way round.
Even if Cameron would agree to a referendum, and the outcome was to get out of Europe, there would be another referendum and then another... until you vote the way you are supposed to be.