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Originally posted by superjesse13132000
Oh and I know I spell isriel wrong, its to disrespect them, like they do to the rest of the world.
Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by IsraeliGuy
coming from IsraeliGuy. Look, the global media can say whatever they like, we don't trust them either.
FALSE FLAG is my opinion.
Thanks for proving my point hun.
Originally posted by rebelrich
Well maybe we are just as cold and as callous about Israeli deaths as you are about Palestinian deaths.
Had you kids sign any of the bombs yet?
Do you have an audience watching the bombs fall on Gaza while cheering?
Don't you dare ask the world to feel for you, cause you people feel for no one!!!
Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Originally posted by superjesse13132000
Oh and I know I spell isriel wrong, its to disrespect them, like they do to the rest of the world.
Lovely ATS, home town of 12 year olds discussing politics and global issues.
Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Originally posted by rebelrich
Well maybe we are just as cold and as callous about Israeli deaths as you are about Palestinian deaths.
Had you kids sign any of the bombs yet?
Do you have an audience watching the bombs fall on Gaza while cheering?
Don't you dare ask the world to feel for you, cause you people feel for no one!!!
Oh shut up. Never did I say I am cold to anyone's deaths. Terrorists that shoot buses and cars on roads deserve to be killed, regardless of what you think of Israel.
Now spare me your guilt filled hate speeches.
Originally posted by rebelrich
Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by IsraeliGuy
coming from IsraeliGuy. Look, the global media can say whatever they like, we don't trust them either.
FALSE FLAG is my opinion.
Thanks for proving my point hun.
Well maybe we are just as cold and as callous about Israeli deaths as you are about Palestinian deaths.
Had you kids sign any of the bombs yet?
Do you have an audience watching the bombs fall on Gaza while cheering?
Don't you dare ask the world to feel for you, cause you people feel for no one!!!
Originally posted by rebelrich
They kill because you KILL don't you get it!!
I myself don't believe it to be a false flag!!
Well maybe you can'tr have want you want simply because you want it!
Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Originally posted by rebelrich
They kill because you KILL don't you get it!!
I myself don't believe it to be a false flag!!
They kill because their intentions is to drive the "Zionist entity" out of Israel, or Palestine as they call it. They have declared it numerous times yet people can't, or don't want to realize it.
Simplifying the issue won't make it easier to solve. Many times have the Israeli government tried to negotiate with the Palestinians in an effort which resulted in more violence. Even one-sided gestures such as the disengagement plan that left hundreds of Israeli people practically homeless, resulted in more violence from the Palestinians side.
Originally posted by rebelrich
Well maybe you can'tr have want you want simply because you want it!
So make true concessions not jestures
You may not see your countrys errors but we can.
Why do you think that the land is yours to take?
I don't see the Italians claiming Roman land cause that would be just silly nonsense wouldn't it!!
And before you tell me about the Bible, cause when moses lead the jews into what became 'judah' people already lived there, your own museums tell you that
Originally posted by eNaR
reply to post by Vitchilo
Should do wonders to the already battered tourism industry in Egypt and the resulting severely depressed economy.
I was in the Sinai area in 2008 and would be deathly afraid to be there now. Guess this is progress for those demanding an alternative to decades of relative calm under that "despot Mubaruk".
Originally posted by rebelrich
Maybe Mubarak was a part of the problem, after all Egyptian life is more important than whether you get to see the pyramids
How self centered are you?
Mess with the bull and you risk the horns. Poke a lion with a stick and you might get eaten. Do you see where I am going with this?
Originally posted by casinoed
reply to post by sonofliberty1776
Well yes. But that's not what happens is it? Palestinians fire some indiscriminately aimed mortars/rockets across the border and Israel responds with F-16s, precision guided bombs, tanks and one of the most zealous armies on the planet. That's what always happens and it is always disproportionate.
In my opinion, they have only the islamist brothers to blame for this. The so called refugees chose to leave Israel when the combined armies of the surrounding muslim nations banded together in a futile attempt to destroy the nascent nation. They were advised to leave and return after the "glorious victory" that never came. They should have since joined the nations where their "camps" are set up. Why haven't they? Do you know? It is simple. The "host" nations will not allow them citizenship. Isn't one of the pillars of the peaceful religion of islam charity? I love the "charity" they show their muslim brethren. If their brothers treat them as trash, why would you expect Israel to do better? As you and the other islam apologists point out, Israel is "evil".
Originally posted by casinoedIf Israel were to do as you suggest, they would still kill more Palestinians than are ever killed on the Israeli side due to the extreme number of people forced to live inside that tiny piece of land. An area where they have been besieged, starved and humiliated for longer than most people can remember.
They were not forced(at first), they CHOSE to leave. They are surrounded by oil rich muslim brothers and sisters. So, why do those in the camps not have food and medicine? Can Jordan, Syria, and Saudi Arabia not afford them?
Originally posted by casinoedTell me. If you were forced from your home, subjected to live some refugee camp without access to enough food, water, medicine while the rest of the world sat on its backside and allowed it happen.
Let me tell you what I WOULD NOT DO! I would NOT strap suicide vests on my CHILDREN to go kill civilians.
Originally posted by casinoedWould you just twiddle your thumbs and hope things got better, or would you fight back?
Originally posted by rebelrich
Originally posted by eNaR
reply to post by Vitchilo
Should do wonders to the already battered tourism industry in Egypt and the resulting severely depressed economy.
I was in the Sinai area in 2008 and would be deathly afraid to be there now. Guess this is progress for those demanding an alternative to decades of relative calm under that "despot Mubaruk".
Maybe Mubarak was a part of the problem, after all Egyptian life is more important than whether you get to see the pyramids
How self centered are you?
Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Originally posted by rebelrich
Well maybe you can'tr have want you want simply because you want it!
So make true concessions not jestures
You may not see your countrys errors but we can.
Why do you think that the land is yours to take?
I don't see the Italians claiming Roman land cause that would be just silly nonsense wouldn't it!!
And before you tell me about the Bible, cause when moses lead the jews into what became 'judah' people already lived there, your own museums tell you that
Lol, bible. You really do think I'm 13 don't you?
The land is ours because we have settled in with the UN's approval, as it was nobody's country's. The closest of being a "country of", is Great Britain who owned the land.
By the way I don't want to see the end of Idrael just the reduction
The Palestinian neighbors, that, did not live here since forever, were not happy about the UN letting us come to Israel so they continuously attacked us. Fate seemed to laugh at their faces and we got the upper hand while they kept attacking us and lose battles and territories.
After a series of conflicts that were forced upon us yet we kicked their heads into the dirt, we owned most of the land. A little after that came the recognition of Israel as a country by the UN, and the declaration of independence.
Now tell me, why do you think the Australians own the land of Australia? It belonged to the Aboriginals first!
Why do the Americans live in USA? It belonged to the natives and Indians!
...
And the list goes on and on and on, and if we follow your logic, half of the planet's population will have to relocate itself.
Just for proportion matters - we conquered the entire Sinai area in one of our wars, yet returned it right after. Does that go well with your theory of "evil conquering jews"?
..The Sinai area is a huge area that if we wanted, could serve us very well economically and demographically, and we returned it as a gesture. Just like we returned the areas of the settlements.
What did that gave us? Nothing, the terrorists still want us out.
Guess what - not going to happen. Israel is here to stay as the Jewish state it is whether you like it or not.edit on 18-8-2011 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)