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Matthew 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
But Paul points out that the New Testament primarily promotes what would nowadays be called socialism:
But to understand just how non-capitalistic Christianity is supposed to be we turn to the first chapter after the gospels, Acts, which describes the events of the early church. Chapters 2 and 4 state that all "the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need ... No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had.... There were no needy persons among them. From time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need."
Originally posted by CalmLikeABOMB
Jesus (PBUH) was Muslim. He was never a capitalist or socialist.
Originally posted by TerryMcGuire
reply to post by smithjustinb
Smith.
Indeed. Socialism and capitalism when touted as "the way", are both victims of fallible human nature. Without worshiping either, understanding the true potentials of both might guide us in developing a system more suited to our further residence on this planet.
Even though I, and I'm sure many, would agree with this, we are so busy arguing with one another over outmoded ideologies, that we are allowing our future to be determined by those who will make sure that they will be the first beneficiaries of the new system. Biblically put, those who choose mammon. Those that do not do unto others.
In times like these, this is what America needs to keep up the status quo. A whole new system.
Jesus. The Socialist
I think you have charity confused with socialism.
Socialism ( /ˈsoʊ̯ʃəɫɪzm̩/) is an economic system in which the means of production are publicly or commonly owned and controlled cooperatively, or a political philosophy advocating such a system.[1] As a form of social organization, socialism is based on co-operative social relations and self-management; relatively equal power-relations and the reduction or elimination of hierarchy in the management of economic and political affairs.[2][3]
Socialist economies are based upon production for use and the direct allocation of economic inputs to satisfy economic demands and human needs (use value); accounting is based on physical quantities of resources, some physical magnitude, or a direct measure of labor-time.[4][5] Goods and services for consumption are distributed through markets, and distribution of income is based on the principle of individual merit/individual contribution.[6]
WIKI
char·i·ty (chr-t)
n. pl. char·i·ties
1. Provision of help or relief to the poor; almsgiving.
2. Something given to help the needy; alms.
3. An institution, organization, or fund established to help the needy.
4. Benevolence or generosity toward others or toward humanity.
5. Indulgence or forbearance in judging others. See Synonyms at mercy.
6. often Charity Christianity The theological virtue defined as love directed first toward God but also toward oneself and one's neighbors as objects of God's love.
Charity
Im sure Jesus would have been aware of the inherent corruption and inevitable failure, that comes with socialist government.
A teacher of mine once told us that no system of government works with over 12 people, and the same can be said of economic systems. He was of course illustrating the point that whenever too many people become involved corruption sets in.
Originally posted by TerryMcGuire
reply to post by Gravity215
I think you have charity confused with socialism.
Socialism ( /ˈsoʊ̯ʃəɫɪzm̩/) is an economic system in which the means of production are publicly or commonly owned and controlled cooperatively, or a political philosophy advocating such a system.[1] As a form of social organization, socialism is based on co-operative social relations and self-management; relatively equal power-relations and the reduction or elimination of hierarchy in the management of economic and political affairs.[2][3]
Socialist economies are based upon production for use and the direct allocation of economic inputs to satisfy economic demands and human needs (use value); accounting is based on physical quantities of resources, some physical magnitude, or a direct measure of labor-time.[4][5] Goods and services for consumption are distributed through markets, and distribution of income is based on the principle of individual merit/individual contribution.[6]
WIKI
char·i·ty (chr-t)
n. pl. char·i·ties
1. Provision of help or relief to the poor; almsgiving.
2. Something given to help the needy; alms.
3. An institution, organization, or fund established to help the needy.
4. Benevolence or generosity toward others or toward humanity.
5. Indulgence or forbearance in judging others. See Synonyms at mercy.
6. often Charity Christianity The theological virtue defined as love directed first toward God but also toward oneself and one's neighbors as objects of God's love.
Charity
Im sure Jesus would have been aware of the inherent corruption and inevitable failure, that comes with socialist government.
As you define socialism above it does not sound to me to be inconsistent with a practical application, or economic system developed upon, those precepts and suggested lifestyles of early Christianity. As you say" Im sure Jesus would have been aware of the inherent corruption and inevitable failure, that comes with socialist government", he would and was also aware of the inherent corruption and inevitable failure that comes with a capitalist government.
Charity from the description you offer sounds a lot like built in aspects of the socialism you describe, where as they take on the flavor of charity under a capitalist system.
I hold that the inherent corruption and inevitable failure of socialist government holds true for all governments due to the fact that so many folk do not live by the golden rule. Were this the case I would have no problem living under socialist or capitalist systems.
Unfortunately, today, if," do unto others "were not known to be the golden rule of Christianity, it would be guessed to have originated in the Communist Manifesto.
Now we have it. Jesus, as I was taught about him and as I still understand him today, was able to take the ridged eye for an eye religious laws that had governed his forefathers and refine them. He boiled them down to essential concepts by which the people might live more fulfilling lives and having lived more fully be accepting of eternal life.
He was not talking about government in control forcing individuals to do anything. This is what socialism involves. He was saying that development of an ideal society is within mans hearts and those who choose to live a charitable life will be the most rewarded in the afterlife. If we are forced to be charitable, do we really deserve that reward?