reply to post by SLAYER69
That is a fine observation and well stated.
My thought on that is this.
By limiting access to these artifacts, and not knowing just how many there are, how probable is it that these puzzle pieces could be put together with
each other?
By not bringing all of them to light they may be inadvertantly muddying the waters.
The Smithsonian coverups, page 2
reply posted on 18-8-2011 @ 05:06 PM by Swills
reply to post by -W1LL
Excellent thread! I'd like to contribute as well about the Smithsonian and their lies and cover ups. I invite everyone to watch this video where Michael Cremo, author of Forbidden Archeology, talks about how human skeletons were found during the gold rush by a geologist who was working with the miners. The miners found human skeletons and artifacts as they dug tunnels into the mountains, and they are dated around 50 millions years old. The geologist wrote his report (published by Harvard) of his findings but the Smithsonian basically said his findings go against the status quo and therefore are invalid.
Michael Cremo - Forbidden Archaeology Fast forward to 1:30
If you want to watch all 6 parts visit my thread here, www.abovetopsecret.com...
Excellent thread! I'd like to contribute as well about the Smithsonian and their lies and cover ups. I invite everyone to watch this video where Michael Cremo, author of Forbidden Archeology, talks about how human skeletons were found during the gold rush by a geologist who was working with the miners. The miners found human skeletons and artifacts as they dug tunnels into the mountains, and they are dated around 50 millions years old. The geologist wrote his report (published by Harvard) of his findings but the Smithsonian basically said his findings go against the status quo and therefore are invalid.
Michael Cremo - Forbidden Archaeology Fast forward to 1:30
If you want to watch all 6 parts visit my thread here, www.abovetopsecret.com...
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reply posted on 18-8-2011 @ 09:37 PM by ntech
I saw the post here and remembered there was a Coast to Coast show a few years back on the subject. So I did a search and found a site that has the
show on it.
Here's the link. Egyptian Caverns in the Grand Canyon.
Though one thing I remember from listening to that show is the seems relatively naive to the subject of what they would have done with boxcars full of gold items at the time.
I thought at the time what he had found was probably the largest heist of gold of all times. And if anything the Smithsonian realized it years later and is trying to hide the fact. An archaeologist from the Smithsonian finds a lost city of gold in the Grand Canyon. He reports this back to his superiors and they devise a plan to get the gold by an official expedition sponsered by the Smithsonian. They ship the gold by rail car to a warehouse back East. Then the gold is melted down and sold. Being the 1920s and 30s at the time it would have probably been easy to convert the gold to cash though a fake gold mining company. And then this superior in the Smithsonian destroys the records and the conspirators retire to South America.
Just a thought.
Here's the link. Egyptian Caverns in the Grand Canyon.
Though one thing I remember from listening to that show is the seems relatively naive to the subject of what they would have done with boxcars full of gold items at the time.
I thought at the time what he had found was probably the largest heist of gold of all times. And if anything the Smithsonian realized it years later and is trying to hide the fact. An archaeologist from the Smithsonian finds a lost city of gold in the Grand Canyon. He reports this back to his superiors and they devise a plan to get the gold by an official expedition sponsered by the Smithsonian. They ship the gold by rail car to a warehouse back East. Then the gold is melted down and sold. Being the 1920s and 30s at the time it would have probably been easy to convert the gold to cash though a fake gold mining company. And then this superior in the Smithsonian destroys the records and the conspirators retire to South America.
Just a thought.
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reply posted on 18-8-2011 @ 09:53 PM by -W1LL
reply to post by angelchanneller
great words thank you very much...
you hit my thoughts on the head exactly it took me a few days off and on to really read and re-read these stories there is not much on them so I tried to stay open minded and not get to involved in the conspiracy, instead I focused on the little facts there are...
there is no excuse for incompetence and like you I feel there is more much more than just plain old stupidity at work here. it may not be the entire Smithsonian maybe someone with power or a small group at the top controlling all the pawns so to speak, controling them and us with double speak and insults.
thanks again for your post.
and thanks to everyone for the replies and gratitude, I am happy this thread got the interest it did.
great words thank you very much...
you hit my thoughts on the head exactly it took me a few days off and on to really read and re-read these stories there is not much on them so I tried to stay open minded and not get to involved in the conspiracy, instead I focused on the little facts there are...
there is no excuse for incompetence and like you I feel there is more much more than just plain old stupidity at work here. it may not be the entire Smithsonian maybe someone with power or a small group at the top controlling all the pawns so to speak, controling them and us with double speak and insults.
thanks again for your post.
and thanks to everyone for the replies and gratitude, I am happy this thread got the interest it did.
reply posted on 18-8-2011 @ 11:33 PM by regolith
Interesting to say the least, reminded me of the "coc aine mummies"
www.straightdope.com... aine-mummies
"too outre" meaning so outlandish it cant possibly be true, although the discoverers dont do
themselves any favours, probably been paid off
Also, out of curiosity is anything said about St. Brendan or the Vikings reaching "The New World"
in schools over the pond, because its not in "Not So Great Britain"
history.howstuffworks.com...
I'd love to be back at school, knowing what i know now, and putting some serious questions to my run
of the mill, strictly by their book, history teacher.
Funny that the U.S. celebrates Columbus Day and St. Paddys day yet not St. Brendans Day ha ha,
well thats if its true, anyway, top o tha morning to ya
www.straightdope.com... aine-mummies
"too outre" meaning so outlandish it cant possibly be true, although the discoverers dont do
themselves any favours, probably been paid off
Also, out of curiosity is anything said about St. Brendan or the Vikings reaching "The New World"
in schools over the pond, because its not in "Not So Great Britain"
history.howstuffworks.com...
I'd love to be back at school, knowing what i know now, and putting some serious questions to my run
of the mill, strictly by their book, history teacher.
Funny that the U.S. celebrates Columbus Day and St. Paddys day yet not St. Brendans Day ha ha,
well thats if its true, anyway, top o tha morning to ya
reply posted on 18-8-2011 @ 11:36 PM by regolith
Originally posted by emaildogs
If the Egyptian named parts of the Grand Canyon are dangerous to man, why not send in a drone? I wanna know.edit on 18-8-2011 by emaildogs because: Sp
No need for drones mate, just send this guy and a 6 pack
www.telegraph.co.uk...
reply posted on 19-8-2011 @ 07:00 AM by lonegurkha
books.google.com...
l=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#v=onepage&q&f=false
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
www.google.com...=en&q=el+toro+mountain%2Cmexico&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=el+toro+mountain%2Cmexico&gs_rfai=&fp=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&cad=b
viewzone2.com...
Here's a few links I have come across . One is a search on the El Toro area in Mexico. Very interesting. The link that leads to information about the Grand Canyon Expidition is very interesting.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
www.google.com...=en&q=el+toro+mountain%2Cmexico&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=el+toro+mountain%2Cmexico&gs_rfai=&fp=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&cad=b
viewzone2.com...
Here's a few links I have come across . One is a search on the El Toro area in Mexico. Very interesting. The link that leads to information about the Grand Canyon Expidition is very interesting.
reply posted on 19-8-2011 @ 09:30 AM by Mikemp44
reply to post by -W1LL
I have read quite a bit about this subject, and even did a little research into the possiblilities of advanced, ancient civilizations in what is now North America and South America. From the Phonecian fortresses and cities buried and hidden in the midwest and northeast, to the giant mummies and skeletons found in the western desert/grand canyon areas, to the remains of people with horns found in the north. There is just too much that has been omitted and perverted beyond its original existence. We are just now, these past 25 years, are starting to piece back the truth of our planets history after so many have attempted to destroy it.
The concept is not new, Hitler burned books of history and philosophy because he wanted to create a new history and society that modeled itself after his beliefs. Saddam Hussein did the exact same thing to his people, you read a book that claimed something different than what i tell you? Bullet in the head. But this has been going on since the ancient times, before even the Roman empire. Many secret societies were formed in an attempt to salvage this knowledge from complete distruction, many of which still exist today.
But an attempt to gain complete power over people just doesn't cut it for me, it just doesn't seem like enough to want to diliberately alter history from what really happened; even religion would not be a strong enough motivater to do this. IMO I honestly believe, from what I have found, that the earth has seen three ages of very advanced civilizations, more advanced than even we today, come and go, rise and fall, just as we have seen in our recent history of only a few thousand years. Also, the only reason I could think of that would be important enough to keep our true history from us is that we are not from earth; that humans did not develop here, but rather came here a very long time ago. There is actually written texts about this and it explains a lot of why humans seem to be very much out of place here. This is a water planet, the majority of life here exists in water and therefore, by evolutionary standards, the most intelligent, evolved being on earth should be in the water. Now we are made of water, but we cannot survive in just water, we need land as much as we need water for our other needs.
So if you look at it from this standpoint, earth had all the major building blocks we as a species needed to survive; high carbon levels, plenty of water, low radiation/temp fluctuations, stable seasons and days/nights. and a world full of other carbon based life forms we could substain ourselves on. I doubt we could eat a silicone based life form for instance, we would probably die. (Assuming they exist)
IMO we came here fleeing, our home system is long destroyed, our aggressors still here trying to accomplish their millions of years old goal, while our saviours watch and wait to strike. Earth was a manufactured enviroment for us, the moon is proof enough of that, but one giant question remains; Why are humans so important? What is it about us that makes us so controversial? It may seem like an easy question to answer, but think about it beyond the basic norm, what power do we possess that has brought us to where we are today? Be careful, this could make your head hurt....
Fun tidbit: James Casbolt (yeah, that guy) claimed they story of WarHammer 40k is almost a true depiction of what happened to humanity in the ancient war between the pliedians and dracos. The more I discover from hndreds of thousand of years ago, the more I believe it. Where all paths cross you will find the truth....
Pro Rege et Populo
I have read quite a bit about this subject, and even did a little research into the possiblilities of advanced, ancient civilizations in what is now North America and South America. From the Phonecian fortresses and cities buried and hidden in the midwest and northeast, to the giant mummies and skeletons found in the western desert/grand canyon areas, to the remains of people with horns found in the north. There is just too much that has been omitted and perverted beyond its original existence. We are just now, these past 25 years, are starting to piece back the truth of our planets history after so many have attempted to destroy it.
The concept is not new, Hitler burned books of history and philosophy because he wanted to create a new history and society that modeled itself after his beliefs. Saddam Hussein did the exact same thing to his people, you read a book that claimed something different than what i tell you? Bullet in the head. But this has been going on since the ancient times, before even the Roman empire. Many secret societies were formed in an attempt to salvage this knowledge from complete distruction, many of which still exist today.
But an attempt to gain complete power over people just doesn't cut it for me, it just doesn't seem like enough to want to diliberately alter history from what really happened; even religion would not be a strong enough motivater to do this. IMO I honestly believe, from what I have found, that the earth has seen three ages of very advanced civilizations, more advanced than even we today, come and go, rise and fall, just as we have seen in our recent history of only a few thousand years. Also, the only reason I could think of that would be important enough to keep our true history from us is that we are not from earth; that humans did not develop here, but rather came here a very long time ago. There is actually written texts about this and it explains a lot of why humans seem to be very much out of place here. This is a water planet, the majority of life here exists in water and therefore, by evolutionary standards, the most intelligent, evolved being on earth should be in the water. Now we are made of water, but we cannot survive in just water, we need land as much as we need water for our other needs.
So if you look at it from this standpoint, earth had all the major building blocks we as a species needed to survive; high carbon levels, plenty of water, low radiation/temp fluctuations, stable seasons and days/nights. and a world full of other carbon based life forms we could substain ourselves on. I doubt we could eat a silicone based life form for instance, we would probably die. (Assuming they exist)
IMO we came here fleeing, our home system is long destroyed, our aggressors still here trying to accomplish their millions of years old goal, while our saviours watch and wait to strike. Earth was a manufactured enviroment for us, the moon is proof enough of that, but one giant question remains; Why are humans so important? What is it about us that makes us so controversial? It may seem like an easy question to answer, but think about it beyond the basic norm, what power do we possess that has brought us to where we are today? Be careful, this could make your head hurt....
Fun tidbit: James Casbolt (yeah, that guy) claimed they story of WarHammer 40k is almost a true depiction of what happened to humanity in the ancient war between the pliedians and dracos. The more I discover from hndreds of thousand of years ago, the more I believe it. Where all paths cross you will find the truth....
Pro Rege et Populo
reply posted on 19-8-2011 @ 09:40 AM by tncryptogal
reply to post by Bobaganoosh
I agree with you. It's a common thing among archaeologists according to one of my professors, to ignore or outright hide evidence contrary to their now sacred dogmas. That's what a lot of these theories have become. People follow them almost blindly and will defend them even if evidence mounts to the contrary.
Personal story. My great, great uncle found one of those mounds (with a fort) on his property. The investigators came, took everything and we never heard about them again. I don't know if it's a coverup or just bad inventory taking. It's frustrating to hear of finds and then never ever hear about them again.
I agree with you. It's a common thing among archaeologists according to one of my professors, to ignore or outright hide evidence contrary to their now sacred dogmas. That's what a lot of these theories have become. People follow them almost blindly and will defend them even if evidence mounts to the contrary.
Personal story. My great, great uncle found one of those mounds (with a fort) on his property. The investigators came, took everything and we never heard about them again. I don't know if it's a coverup or just bad inventory taking. It's frustrating to hear of finds and then never ever hear about them again.
reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 10:25 AM by tncryptogal
reply to post by DataDoc
I have a really interesting book that is in the Public Domain called, "The Natural and Aboriginal History of Tennessee". It discusses some of these (and more interesting finds) in my state.
Is there a way I can upload the pdf here? If not, pm me and I'll upload it to 4shared or something. Since it's Public Domain, there isn't any copyright concerns.
I have a really interesting book that is in the Public Domain called, "The Natural and Aboriginal History of Tennessee". It discusses some of these (and more interesting finds) in my state.
Is there a way I can upload the pdf here? If not, pm me and I'll upload it to 4shared or something. Since it's Public Domain, there isn't any copyright concerns.
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