Originally posted by Bramble Iceshimmer
reply to post by ModernAcademia
OK, I hope you understand he can't win
Why do you hope I understand he can't win? Do you feel sorry for me that I can't think for myself? Are you trying to be my hero? Are you the kind of person who believes the average person lacks the intelligence to think for oneself and thus should be protected from oneself?
Really, why should your or anyone elses opinion as to the chances of a Ron Paul win/loss be elevated above others?
The same question should be asked of yourself. What gives you the privilege of questioning the validity of my opinion? Rather presumptuous isn't it?
So you like Ron Paul, good for you. Not everyone believes his ideas are what America needs. Are the pro Ron Paul members on ATS the arbitrators of which opinions will be published?
I don't like his ideas. Some that bother me are:
I believe in a strong military presence in the world with
interventions as required to support our foreign policy interests and to serve a role in breaking up squabbles. If we are the world police, so be it.
I find it ironic that a pro war person would chose a garden fairy as their avatar. Don't you?
I do care if Iran gets nuclear weapons to lord over their neighbors which currently supplies the world with oil. I sure wouldn't look forward to having defeat and break up a Persian Caliphate in that part of the world so oil could flow.
Israel has 300 nukes. Most rational people understand 300 to 1 odds don't add up to first strike capabilities. Iran doesn't want to commit suicide.
Putting protective tariffs in place is an act of desperation and defeatist, you are basically giving up on innovation, creativity and the spirit to excel.
There you go again putting words in Ron Paul's mouth. He is against tariffs. He is a free trade advocate. IMHO Israel has a statistically exceptional percentage of genius scientists. They have the highest patent application per citizen in the world. Imagine if that talent was put to work turning the deserts into gardens? It's time to start doing things differently. I love Israel. I love Iran. I like fairies.
Sure, let's start manufacturing expensive versions of the junk we can buy from China and the third world. With the current attitudes of labor in the US we may never again have products that aren't crappy.
edit on 8/18/2011 by Bramble Iceshimmer because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Darkmask
As much as I wish it would happen, Ron Paul will never be President, because he is against those who hold the real power. When will the sheeple of America realize that they do not have a real democracy. The U.S.A. is a fascist nation in the disguise of a democracy. There hasn't been a real democratic election in a very long time. The results of all presidential elections are predetermined, you going out to vote is just an illusion to make you believe you have a choice. If Ron Paul gets the republican nod, that will mean Obama will be president for another four years.
Americans need to get very angry and forcefully take their country back. That is the only way to achieve the change everybody wants. The PTB count on the American people to be dumb and docile. The only way the American people will have the country they want, is through violent protest of the likes we have seen in Africa and the middle east. It will be bloody, the PTB will respond more harshly than any third world dictator. Revolution is the only way America will be a free nation again. Your fake elections will accomplish nothing.edit on 18-8-2011 by Darkmask because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
I'd love for Ron Paul to win, but it's never going to happen. I'd also love for Herman Cain to win, but that won't happen either. Until Ron Paul or Herman Cain are on the top of the Rasmussen polls, you can forget about it.
Rasmussen 8/16/2011 Polledit on 18-8-2011 by navy_vet_stg3 because: Fixed fat finger
Originally posted by XtraTL
Ron Paul is really unelectable.
Originally posted by DrunkenNinja
reply to post by doom27
Either way if people stopped saying he cannot win; continued and joined the grass roots movement that started in 2008 we could at least ruffle some feathers but in stead you give up and accept what you wrote?edit on 18-8-2011 by DrunkenNinja because: (no reason given)