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9/11 plane attacks were all an illusion? 3000 victims were NOT registered as dead by Social Security

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posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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This website seems to have an explanation. Now I do not know whether this is a sick hoax, but this is just too good to be true.

Prepare to be shocked!



Why are the nearly 3,000 victims of 9/11 missing from an official federal registry of death?

According to the Death Master File - the official record of 90 million deceased Americans who had been issued Social Security cards since 1937 - there were 6,298 deaths recorded on that awful day in 2001 when terrorists struck the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and caused a plane crash in a rural area in Pennsylvania.

But, because an average of 6,200 Americans die every day, there should have been more than 9,000 deaths recorded for Sept. 11, 2001.

Conspicuous by their absence in the federal file are many prominent victims of the attacks, including New York City Fire Chief Peter Ganci Jr., Fire Department Chaplain Mychal Judge and businessmen Daniel Lewin, founder of Akamai Technologies, and Thomas Burnett Jr., chief operating officer of Thoratec Corp.

"The mystery about 9/11 baffles me," said Beth Givens, executive director of the San Diego-based Privacy Rights Clearinghouse, which has received complaints about the accuracy of the death file. "The only things that come to mind are some of the conspiracy theories that we hear out there - and I don't want to go there."

Conspiracy theorists, indeed, have noticed and are questioning whether the government has told the truth about what happened that day. A video posted on YouTube titled "Where are the 9/11 Victims?" shows that only 405 people are listed as dying in the state of New York that day.

The Social Security Administration, which oversees the Death Master File, does not have a clear explanation.

"There are several possible reasons," said Social Security spokesman Mark Hinkle. "For example, by law, we cannot make public the death reports we get from certain states. Another possibility is that the death was not reported to us because the person was not receiving benefits or there were no survivors' benefits to be paid on the deceased's Social Security record."

Read More: www.knoxnews.com...


YouTube source:



Whats even more mind boggling is that the victims who supposedly died, are actually alive in 2011, as shown by this interactive map:
www.knoxnews.com...

So what happened to the victims? Are a bunch of sick individuals using their dead names or did no one actually die by the illusion of the plane crashes but some unfortunately died by the intentional demolition of the twin towers? Where are these people now? Are they now assuming new identities?


Was 9/11 the result of the successful implementation of Project Blue Beam? www.abbaswatchman.com...



There is so much proof that the towers were cleared well in advance of 9 11 as no parts of desks were ever found or filing cabinets or computers just phones and paper which says they were emptied well in advance of the Hollywood stunt and that the Planes were a Holographic illusion preparing the whole world for Project Blue Beam




posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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Would the deaths be posted on the day that the body was found and identified or the day of the person's death?



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 01:57 PM
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Sounds like they haven't received the proper paperwork to list them in the system. Not really seeing the conspiracy at all as you know how horrible the government is at stuff like this.

I doubt all those people would just follow along while leaving their families grieving.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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Interesting find!



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:00 PM
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Wow a very interesting read for sure.. Who knows what the hell happened on that day there are so many different theories.. All i can say is that we need to keep questioning the obvious holes in the official 911 story. We will get to the bottom of this nonsense eventually. I tell you what though the very minute that we find out it was all a hoax all hell will break loose and "THEY" no that..



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by BrianC
Would the deaths be posted on the day that the body was found and identified or the day of the person's death?


Good question.. I will add this however.. My father appears in the registry, but three of my friends who've died ( and I know they died, I went to the funerals ) do not appear in the registry.

The registry is not very accurate and as listed in the op's quote, there's reasons .. and probably far more reasons than given.. if NY is one of those states that doesn't allow that to be reported to the registry then that alone would solve it.

9/11 was definitely not an illusion, people can call it conspiracy or whatever makes them feel better.. but we all saw people leap to their deaths from the building.. remains of people had continued to be found long after the tragedy and far too many people worked there to effectively pull off the "hoax" suggested in this thread.
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posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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This is precisely the kind of stuff that further marginalizes legitimate researchers as to what happened on that day.

I was there, saw the bodies, breathed the small of death, and attended the funerals ... rest assured, no matter how I wish it were so, none of it was an illusion.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:05 PM
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Interesting read about the (no) deaths. I would personally avoid Blue Beam like the plague, it's complete BS. Holographic planes? Dude!!

st.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by schrodingers dog
This is precisely the kind of stuff that further marginalizes legitimate researchers as to what happened on that day.

I was there, saw the bodies, breathed the small of death, and attended the funerals ... rest assured, no matter how I wish it were so, none of it was an illusion.


Hey you, long time no see! Send me a U2U some time.



That said, yeah.... Look, there are so many witnesses... It is just offensive to suggest it was an illusion.

I wish it had been! But it wasn't. You are so right S-dog.
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posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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I'm not disputing the fact that people didn't die that day, but they did not die because of the plane crashes.

It was the planned demolition which did, where the "2 suspects" were never heard of again.


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posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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Perhaps it's simply because the SSA, like most government agencies, is pretty inept at what it does:


Of the approximately 2.8 million death reports the Social Security Administration receives per year, about 14,000 -- or one in every 200 deaths -- are incorrectly entered into its Death Master File, which contains the Social Security numbers, names, birth dates, death dates, zip codes and last-known residences of more than 87 million deceased Americans. That averages out to 38 life-altering mistakes a day.

money.cnn.com...



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Holographic images is hardly science fiction anymore.




posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze
reply to post by SatoriTheory
 


Holographic images is hardly science fiction anymore.



Dude, that is on a TV screen. If you were on that stage, standing next to the guy, you would not see the car in front of you, you only see it on a screen.

The technology to project a 3D object infront of you does not currently exist.

st.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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I don't know...I'm pretty sure the military does research on advanced technology way ahead mainstream science. Most of the ground breaking research has always been done by the military and particularly during wars i.e. during WW2



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Military technology is not THAT far in advance though. But if you want to believe the planes were holograms, then that is your choice.

Anyways, I dont want to de-rail your thread. I thought the (no) deaths was interesting in its own right.

st.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Yep, true.


By Thomas Hargrove of Scripps Howard News Service
Saturday, July 9, 2011

WASHINGTON — A New York congresswoman who represents Manhattan wants answers to why nearly 3,000 victims of the 9/11 terrorists attacks weren’t reported in the Social Security Administration’s official list of deceased Americans.
Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said her staff started making inquiries after the errors in the federal Death Master File (DMF) were detected by Scripps Howard News Service. The file is a public record intended to protect families of the deceased from identity theft and other types of fraud.
“While nearly 3,000 individuals were killed on Sept. 11th, the list does not show an increase in numbers from the typical DMF daily average,” Maloney said. “A sampling of those names did not yield any matches in the DMF and confirms their apparent absence.”
She said her staff has contacted the Social Security Administration, the New York State Department of Health and the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, only to receive “conflicting answers as to why there is a lack of reporting on this matter.”
So Maloney is asking Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue and the public health commissioners for the state of New York and New York City, jointly, to account for the reporting error.
“Would you explain why individuals killed on 9/11 would be missing from the DMF?” Maloney asked in her letters.
__ Contact reporter Thomas Hargrove at hargrovet@shns.com.


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posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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I think it's a giant leap from 9/11 missing names to project bluebeam, regardless of whether or not holographic technology was used on that day or not. The fact remains however that most of the people who were supposed to be on the planes did not show up in the death registry for 9/11. Did they turn up on later dates?
What about Barbara Olsen? Is she listed?

The original source is: THOMAS HARGROVE Scripps Howard News Service

This does raise some questions though I think associating it with Project Blue Beam is a bit of a stretch.
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posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 06:10 PM
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Yeah, I was looking for a better source but the congresscritter's staff pulled it from her website pronto. She must have gotten the memo...

The exchange should be in the public record, but like you said, that's a big stretch to project bluebeam.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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My first thought was geared towards the last few sentences. Perhaps they were not owed money? Really, the CEO of a company; the Vice President of a company - They never paid to Social Security??? Really?

Crawling back into my hole with my tin foil hat on! Great Find OP. I had not heard of this file. Thank you for sharing.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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I say ; people did die that day , and the smell of it hold up for many days. But could the official number of the deaths be not real .



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