Originally posted by HolographicPrincipal
Originally posted by Phenomium
Originally posted by HolographicPrincipal
reply to post by Phenomium
Are we on the same planet? I'm not sure if I subscribe to your.... interesting, albeit fantastical and unreal perspective. Maybe on bizarro earth,
it's as you say. But here? Nope.
Power through force is base. Words, gestures, knowledge, and leading by example.... That's powerful.
1. You are responding within the framework of politics. I was responding within the framework of sociology.
2. Leading by example = "Actions speak louder than words".
"Power through words, gestures, knowledge and leading by example"?
You are saying that "physical force" is a fantasy and unreal perspective in this world we live in??? Are you serious??? Look around you.....words by
anyone political or Social......it only ends in war. Simply turn on the news for your proof.
You are further saying that words and knowledge and gestures and (a concept, rather an idea) like "leading by example".,..IS TANGIBLE?? This is your
power?? Ideas that no one can touch, see, smell and that most of the world today does not even subscribe to?
You said it best yourself, POWER IS BASE!.....and a base is the foundation of everything and when all ideas have crumbled to the ground...the base is
usually still there. there is nothing that can even stand without a base that is powerful enough to support it, hence why I will explain below that
the feminists base (the government) is crumbling right now and once it does...their whole house of cards will come tumbling down, because their
powerbase IS the government and NOT this illusion of power that we see everyday on the television and hear from the likes of Oprah and other lying
media sources. the government is the same way....a base of military power...and words to get to use that military power....more words to hypnotize and
lie to the American people for population support to go to these wars. It all ends up in a raw, physical display of power......words are only the
means to an end.
So no, we are not on the same planet....you are the one not on earth. Earth, you see, is rife with violence and war and raw power right now....and
words are used to trick the public into support for more wars.
On a social level....words don't matter, they are but, a day to day way to convey our say and dismay, and when a disagreement of words, it ends in
vulgar display. This is reality.
Words that make men shake hands are never remembered, a war of words that ends in raw power are never forgotten. History books are witness to this
1776 proved that words did not work, therefore battle (where no women were needed) and force had to be brought to remedy the situation......AND IT
DID. Until now, because people like YOU chose to listen to lies and political WORDS that they choose to not even listen to. My world seems bizarro to
YOU because it would to anyone who is still asleep and ostensibly still votes because they truly thin their WORDS still matter. It would seem like a
fairy tale to someone who looks around and still sees a beautiful country in the midst of chaos that was cause because the people of America thought
that their words mattered. Words are nothing! Actions speak louder than words...you've heard this no?
It doesn't matter. we have you beat under both terms in the end. Just a little more time for men to wake up to what women are doing politically AND
socially and we will once again have our power back that we earned...that you women stole by means of sexual manipulation, lying polls against men,
hundreds of organizations that benefit ONLY women and exclude men (predominately feminist organizations, sometimes masked as charities such as the
site becauseiamagirl.com which only focuses on the female refugees while the male refugees are ignored), manipulation of the courts, and using the law
to imprison men by such tactics as, having sex with men and then claiming they raped the woman just to to get them locked up. Claiming that men abused
them (when they didn't ) to get them thrown in jail, just to be vindictive.
Sleeping with men to get money positions of power. Pole dancing in clubs when times get tough and getting paid more than at a decent job while a man
in the same situation has to pick up a can and sit on the street just hoping someone will have a heart.These days women always seem to have an ace
card they can use to overcome men. yet, it is all by protection of the courts and law and government. A government that is on the verge of collapse as
we speak. Guess what happens when the protector becomes yet another victim......you will no longer have your "Big Brother" to protect you from all of
the men out there that are just drooling to make you pay for what you've done to them. The "decent men" will not help you because they have been the
victims as well and understand the anger these men have that will collect payment from your deeds. Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch "I AM
MAKING NO THREATS HERE ON MY OWN ACCORD", I am merely stating what I know will happen in the future as a result of what has happened in the past up to
the present time. There I personally will not harm a woman. But it is not against the law for me to refrain from helping one in distress, after she
has upset a man. She has either asked for the cessation of help from men or has been the beneficiary of what feminism has offered for years now, while
men have had to suffer under this regime of government subsidized, FEMINIST TERRORISM. Why not right?
The Homeland Security refers to every other collective organization as "homeland terrorism" don't they? Christian groups...terrorists....hacking
groups...terrorists....churches that choose to get away from the world and it's ways....terrorists......(under many policies created by Bush and
Obama) ..even the collective country of American people are homeland terrorists. So why then......are they NOT calling this vulgar group of shemale
It's because the government wants them to emasculate and break the will of men so there will be no fight left in us to defend our country!
By psychological tactics such as taking our children, cheating on us and still getting everything in the divorce, child support that, WE MEN, have to
prove that we pay each month..or go to prison......women have to pay nothing. In fact nearly 100% of the time a man will lose against a woman in court
because they are being protected by the government to break our will power. Hell, lately (and I know you have seen the trials) women can even molest
under aged children and the judge will let them of by statements such as in the Debra Lafave case (and I quote from the Debra's lawyer) "To place an
attractive young woman in that kind of hell hole is like putting a piece of raw meat in with the lions," Lafave's attorney, John Fitzgibbons, said in
July of the possibility of jail time. "I'm not sure she would survive." -
and here is a news link
about the woman's double standard and their advantage in this matter.
A news video on the Pedophile Women who got away with raping young
boys and their double standard.
Sandra Beth Giesel, Deborah Lafave, Pamela Rogers, who got away with it the first time but continued until they just had no choice...but make no
mistake about it MEN would never even have a choice, the first time even if they are set up by police and there NEVER WAS a child involved....just
because they THOUGHT about it and acted on that THOUGHT....they serve years sometimes, and the rest of their lives are compromised with the difficulty
of never finding employment or a place to live and are exiled from every city they enter because of being entered into a child molestation registry.
Now I disagree with ANYONE, male OR female that rapes or molests children...but I disagrees even more that they let women off the hook based on how
pretty they are. It's favoritism over men, it's hypocritical and it's disgusting.
Back to my point,
When I said "actions speak louder than words", you and I have a totally different frame of thought. Yours = weak, mine = results.
If you were to try to "lead by example" using your words.....does that work 100% of the time? No! If the person still disagrees with you and punches
you in the face. You hit the ground...no more words and you lose!
If brutal wars happen......SOMEONE will teach the other guy/country to be more humble and make him choose his words and actions more wisely next time.
In the scenario above If my way "actions speak louder than words", is the way of the second guy whom you tried to "lead by example" by using your
words to do your fighting, ...and he chose to do things HIS way, as opposed to yours, then by raw power, the second guy ended the whole problem.
You would be on the ground with your words and he would walk away the victor. You may, upon waking up....never talk to him again. problem solved!
As sad as it is to use these examples, JFK tried to use words and what happened....Force happened. His words will always be remembered but whoever
took him out.....accomplished their goal, as he was no longer there to stop them.
Malcome X......same thing. he didn't change anything, he died. There was a much larger plan that required the lack of oppression regarding black
people. Just like there was a much larger plan to let the feminist rule over men and still claim inequality and get away with it. But this is only
short lived. There will be a day where feminists and their followers have to pay their price for angering and stealing from men...and the government
You may not believe in the bible, but I do and I recall a place in Daniel 11 that states that ...
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, NOR THE DESIRE OF WOMEN
, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all." ....and
let's face it, MEN are certainly NOT the desire of women these days, so it is suggesting that this guy will not care about women nor anything that
they are interested in, they will be overlooked under his regime of brutal power. Yeah, maybe he will not care for men either...but it SPECIFIES women
in the passage.
Words, I still contend, only go so far. At the end of the day FORCE is the ultimate and final answer (whether the outcome is liked or not).
Politicians use words all the time, to the public...to other leaders...to YOU and to me. But what do they do at the en of the day. Bomb other
countries into submission and occupy 9 or 10 regions of the middle east and many other parts of the world with a display of "Shock and Awe" that makes
the world tremble in fear.
You see, both...politics and sociology are controlled by force and the handling of any issue by words alone is temporary. Such as (in sociology), when
a man cheats on a woman....he says I'm sorry and re-evaluates his life and relationship. The woman will certainly take no ownership for driving the
man into the arms of another (as women think they are always perfect and can do no wrong), therefore, the man has to pay. She uses whatever force she
has to teach him a lesson and many times it is force by vicarious performance (or by law intervention and punishment by a third party)...they use the
law and the courts to do their dirty work by setting the guy up or something to that affect. At any rate, she has used raw force to handle her
problem....not words alone.
Politically speaking, I really don't need to say a thing...we have all heard the "words" of politicians and we can see the results of the words all
around us right now. Yet, we see nothing but wars all around us as well, the very thing they told us after setting up the United Nations, after WWI
(The war to end all wars). As we know WWII happened not too long after that. Their WORDS meant nothing and were lies. They only lead to more wars.
Words are pleasant to the ears sometimes......but they can end up putting bruises (or worse) on a body even quicker.
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