Blood On My Shirt - Where Are the Real Men At?, page 1


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Topic started on 17-8-2011 @ 10:57 AM by LifeIsEnergy
Blood On My Shirt

While walking out of a neighborhood corner store I saw a man beating his pre-teen/teen daughter. Two women stepped in and tried to calm the man down and help the girl, but as he held onto his daughter's hair he proceeded to batter these two women. As these two petite women bravely fought this large out of control man, I noticed a group of four or five men just standing there watching it unfold as if it was entertaining to them. Or maybe they were too scared to do anything.

I walked closer, and as the man threw his daughter to the ground he turned his focus solely on these women. He struck one of them so hard she hit the ground like she died. As he cocked his arm back to hit the other woman, I grabbed it and spun around his back to face him. Without hesitation he swung at me. I side stepped his blow and cracked my glass bottle of iced tea, that I just bought, over the front of his face. He fell to the ground unconscious.

The two women grabbed the young girl and left with her, I presume to the hospital or police station. As I stood there with blood on my shirt of the man I just injured, conflicting thoughts shot through my mind. On one hand, I felt alright about what happened, someone needed to stop him from beating these women further and I didn't do it out of anger but concern, but on the other hand, I felt like I just broke a promise to myself to never again intentionally hurt another being. People started to gather around and thank and praise me, including the group of men that was just watching. I wanted to ask them why they didn't do anything, but instead I just walked away in silence.

As I walked home, tears of frustration ran down my face. "I've been through and seen these things too many times in my life. Why is this society so messed up?! Why are men allowing for this to happen to our children?!", I thought to myself. I wasn't all that shocked that these women were willing to sacrifice their well-being to help this girl before any man did. Throughout my life I've noticed that women tend to stand up to domestic altercations much quicker then most men do. But what killed me was the realization that in order to have a healthy family structure, and thus society, men need to set and protect the moral standards that women can then nurture and strengthen. Yet our society is so screwed up and twisted that this seems almost non-existent!

Today, many men think all they have to do is make money and pay taxes, no matter how they make it or what it is spent on, and then they can do whatever they want. They can lie, exploit, abuse, cheat, promote ignorance, and neglect their families and society. And seeing this level of inequality, women have followed in their footsteps, as if they think succumbing to these same ills will level the playing field. So where does this leave the kids? Where does this leave our future? While the parents are so busy playing mind games with each other; so busy trying to one-up each other, what is happening to their kids and to our future?

Right now the natural chaos of a jungle seems so more appealing than this contrived jungle of insanity that we have created for ourselves. There is no natural order here. Everything is contrived out of a desire for immediate gratification for the few. We think laws, policies, and enforcement through the police and military, will bring us order and peace? Is this what we are placing our faith in the future on? Please, save me the laughter. While parents play act like "good law abiding citizens", the government educates their kids and corporations entertain them. Both have no interest other than to fatten their own pockets and empower themselves.

So where are all the real men at? Where are all the moral protectors of our society at? You want to enjoy this societies privileges but you don't want to set a good example of moral standards for it? How long do you think these privileges will last if you are only intent on exploiting and neglecting people for your own benefit? Do you have any compassion for your children? And don't tell me the government or police force or some religious authority should be setting and protecting our moral standards, they aren't going to be able to do that even if they wanted to!

"Be the change that you want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi

Peace.
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reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 11:14 AM by Death_Kron
reply to post by LifeIsEnergy



I completely understand where your coming from here but I'd just like to point out two things;

1.) In Self defence, either for your own safety or that of others, your supposed to use a reasonable amount of force. I'm not in any way, shape or form condoning the man's actions (he had it coming to him really) but for your own protection I think it was unwise to bottle the guy, I don't know where about's in the world you reside but over here in the UK that would land you in serious trouble.

2.) A little family motto of mine is "Look after yourself, leave everyone else to it", that may sound a little harsh a first but I think everyone should look after number before they start looking after others (strangely enough something I fine incredibly difficult to do considering it's my own motto)

Sometimes people don't get involved because it isn't there problem, it's a sad but that seems to be the way life has become.

Also, I'd point out that sometimes people with good intentions who intervene often find the aggression then being directed at them, usually with not so great consequences....

It's a difficult task trying to define the point where you don't care and the point that as a fellow human being you have a moral obligation to get involved.

I hope you understand where I'm coming from here, like I said apart from the use of a bottle I can't really fault your actions.

Just my opinion, S+F by the way.

DK


reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 11:16 AM by pcrobotwolf
reply to post by LifeIsEnergy



you strike a dude with a glass bottle then quote Gandhi lol. I think you might be confused. Real manly men hahaha get real guy, women and the media have been distorting the image of a real man for years. Its a tough guy no its a hard worker who makes enough money to care for his family, no its cold man who doesn't give a damn about anything and never gets hurt. Truth is nobody really knows what a real man is.


reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 11:17 AM by Death_Kron
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That highlights the second post is my post after yours brilliantly, star for you.

Some couples take offence at someone stepping in and trying to stop their physical violence!

Like I said, "... Leave everyone else to it."


reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 11:25 AM by gabby2011
reply to post by LifeIsEnergy


all I can say is ..wow... 5 men watched and did nothing to intervene?

Kudos to you for helping these women out..I applaud your efforts.


reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 11:26 AM by petrus4
Originally posted by pcrobotwolf
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post by LifeIsEnergy



you strike a dude with a glass bottle then quote Gandhi lol.


Gandhi was actually a master tactician. Against overwhelming force, pacifism can be literally the only effective card you can play.



reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 11:33 AM by emptyOmind
reply to post by LifeIsEnergy



i think your mistake is that you assume that everybody behaves as if they are cowards.

i have witnessed quite a few acts of bravery myself.

but don't get me wrong, i see where you are coming from, and i think that you did the right thing


reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 11:34 AM by LifeIsEnergy
reply to post by Death_Kron



Thanks for the reply.

"A little family motto of mine is "Look after yourself, leave everyone else to it"
I agree for the most part, but usually make the exception when kids or women are being physically abused. It would be more painful to me, to see a kid or woman being abused and doing nothing, then to step in and face the consequences. It really all comes down to the circumstance though. I definitely would not make a philosophy or method of living out of it.

As far as the bottle goes, yeah, I feel bad. I wasn't intentionally thinking about using it. It was in my hand and instincts kicked in.

Thanks, again.
Peace.


reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 11:36 AM by seedofchucky
Good job by stepping in ...

sometimes i fear like if i was in that siutation i would bash his face with the heat of the moment to make him not identifiable by his family memebers to teach him and the rest of the men who would beat women a lesson they would never forget

but of course i don't want to have it come to that . I don't like violence and forbid violence to solve violence ...


thats why in the heat of the moment i don't know if i would be able to control my self from rearranging his face ...


secondly i would like to point out the women who stay in these type of realtionships

who have a 100 excuses why they wanna stay in a abusive realtionship...

its women that allow them selfs to be with such people that gives these type of men the idea that women won't leave them no matter how much they beat them ..


if every women walked away at the first sign some violence in a realtionship i assure you men would behave in a much differnt manner then they do today ..

its so easy to make excuses for a abusive father , boyfriend , husband

but i would disown them in a heart beat for there actions but others don't see it the same

so enjoy the consequences of staying in that type of realtionship then expect one of "good men" to come save you when they are beating your face in


then have the audacity to cry victim when you just egged it on by staying in such a realtionship

i know you'll hear 100 of excuses why a women won't just leave that situation ...

i would rather be homeless then deal with that


reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 11:39 AM by newcovenant
Whats your definition of a "real man"?
A real man is one who shows respect to his Mother and Father. A real man treats his friends and family and strangers on the street with the same respect as well. A real man loves his children and wife and stays through the thick and the thin. A man that will never lift his hand to a woman's face. Who will treat her like a lady with dignity and respect always. Who shows her how much he truly cares and loves her by telling her and surprising her with flowers at work or home. Cooking dinner and telling her to just put your feet up honey and let me handle the dishes and putting the kids to bed. A real man takes time to teach and show his kids the proper way to go about disputes and teaches them values in life. A real man teaches his children how to respect others and to be kind by example. And when in the presence of his wife, he shows them tenderness and compassion while holding her close. (Nothing un PG) A real man will see someone in distress and offer to help. Real men seek and praise God with their wives and family. Real men do the best they can, they don't cheat, steal or lie to get their way. They are humble, honest and their heart's are soft with love and compassion. Real men can be gentle as a lamb with their wife, children, family and friends. And can be fierce as a lion with offenders. We are both protectors and lovers....... uk.answers.yahoo.com...



Where have all the real men gone?
Top American columnist Kathleen Parker is causing a furor with her new book Save the Males, in which she argues that feminism has neutered men and deprived them of their noble, protective role in society
While women have been cast as victims, martyrs, mystics or saints, men have quietly retreated into their caves, the better to muffle emotions that fluctuate between hilarity (are these bitches crazy or what?) and rage (yes, they are and they’ve got our kids).
In the process of fashioning a more female-friendly world, we have created a culture that is hostile towards males, contemptuous of masculinity and cynical about the delightful differences that make men irresistible, especially when something goes bump in the night. entertainment.timesonline.co.uk...


I think they are both true.
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