What! Happened To Fedor Emelianenko?, page 1


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Topic started on 17-8-2011 @ 08:25 AM by blocula
en.wikipedia.org... fedor was up until recently virtually unstoppable and the most feared striker in all of mma,the "giant killer" submitted and knocked out fighters over and over and over again and many of these victories were against people that were much larger than he was...then suddenly he seems all washed up with three losses in a row and hes not even old as far as mma goes,what happened to fedor?video.google.com...# <<< this is how awesome fedor use to be!
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reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 09:41 AM by blocula
Originally posted by bobdigi
You have to have seen his last three fights to put the losses into perspective.

Against Fabricio Werdum, he actuall dropped Werdum and was hitting him while Werdum was on his back before Werdum, being the BJJ black belt that he is, secured a combination triangle choke/armbar and forced Fedor to tap. Either way, Fedor was close to winning that fight before getting caught.

Against Antonio Silva, Fedor was up against a much larger fighter, was getting beat up, but was in the fight. After the second round, the doctor stopped the fight, but Fedor was ready to go. In my opinion, had the fight gone to the third, Fedor had a good chance to win it.

Against Dan Henderson, Fedor was teeing off on Dan, got him up against the cage and on his back, but slipped, gave up his back, which allowed Henderson to land an uppercut that dropped Fedor, causing the ref to stop the fight. Again, like against Werdum, Fedor was winning the fight and could have stopped it due to strikes if not for a mistake.

On any given day in the cage, Fedor is still one of the most dangerous heavyweights in the business. Unfortunately, that law of averages has caught up with him and he's suffered three consecutive defeats, each of which could have been victories.
in the werdum fight fedors fist never even made contact,werdum fell over backwards and fedor "should" have let him stand back up,...around 50% of fedors wins are against opponents taller and heavier than he is...did you check out the fedor vs goodridge fight link that i posted? look how fast,hard and accurate fedors striking "was,"...fedor knocked around tim silvia like a rag doll and tim silvia's weight,height and reach are a lot more than fedor who is 6ft tall,230lbs with a 74" reach, tim silvia is 6ft 8" tall 300lbs with an 80" reach and fedor crushed him really fast,but fedor gets knocked around by bigfoot silva whos a lot smaller than tim silvia !?!?
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reply posted on 17-8-2011 @ 09:52 AM by Aggie Man
Originally posted by blocula
around 50% of fedors wins are against opponents taller and heavier than he is..


No doubt! Size can't be used as an excuse. Anyone remember this fight? (Fedor is a big guy, but looks like a dwarf in comparison):




In my opinion, Fedor is losing because of many reasons.
* getting old
* fighters are figuring him out
* law of averages says he will lose eventually
* his head is no longer in the game
* he is facing tougher competition than he was in Europe & Asia.


reply posted on 22-8-2011 @ 09:51 PM by Buddha1098
Originally posted by blocula
i dont think the giant fighters he was beating up on were talentless or they wouldnt even be in the ring in the first place.he pounded andre arlovsky 6ft 4",semmy shilt 6ft 11" and tim silvia 6ft 8" ,to name just three...i'd like to see "the non finisher judges champion george st pierre" perpetually beat up on fighters 50lbs heavier than himself...no way... it wouldnt happen...when bj penn loses,people complain that the other guy was 2 lbs heavier!!!
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I was referring to the video of Fedor beating Hong Man Choi when I said giants with no fighting ability, but since you brought it up. Arlovski has a Glass Chin but was dominating the fight until his weakness caught up with him. I'd say that fight was an example of how Fedor's skills had slipped since his prime in the middle of the last decade. Semmy Schilt is a Kickboxer with no ground game and Tim Sylvia has been Ko'd by a 40+ Ray Mercer. I'm not saying these guys are talentless.. I am saying that Fedor beating them does nothing to prove he is at the upper echelon of the Heavyweight division. As for GSP... Throw him in against Giant Silva or Hong Man Choi and he'll win... Easily.. In fact I'd give GSP the edge against Fedor giving up 40lbs.
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reply posted on 22-8-2011 @ 10:04 PM by Buddha1098
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Yes Fedor pounded out Gary Goodridge... In 2003... Fedor was an amazing fighter but unless he has mastered Time Travel, I don't think an 8 year old video of him pounding out a guy who was never really that great to begin with is helping your case


reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 06:00 AM by blocula
Originally posted by Buddha1098
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Yes Fedor pounded out Gary Goodridge... In 2003... Fedor was an amazing fighter but unless he has mastered Time Travel, I don't think an 8 year old video of him pounding out a guy who was never really that great to begin with is helping your case
everyone gets old,everyone becomes less than what they were,but these facts will never change fedors glory days.take st pierre from anytime period you choose and put him up against fedor from anytime period and its not that hard to figure out the winner.in the video link you can watch all of fedors fights and lets see st pierre drop 400lb,6ft,8" zulu with one punch...
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reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 07:16 PM by Buddha1098
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Buddy I'm into reality not fantasy. Whether Fedor could beat GSP is irrelevant. You think he would, I think he wouldn't they\re never going to fight so it doesn't matter. You started this thread asking what happened to Fedor. I told you. You are shocked by Fedor's recent slump because you are a casual fan of MMA. I as close follower of the sport so I wasn't surprised by his losses.

If you want to disagree with me that's fine but have something more tangible than your opinion and nearly decade old video clips.


reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 09:34 PM by blocula
Originally posted by Buddha1098
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Buddy I'm into reality not fantasy. Whether Fedor could beat GSP is irrelevant. You think he would, I think he wouldn't theyre never going to fight so it doesn't matter. You started this thread asking what happened to Fedor. I told you. You are shocked by Fedor's recent slump because you are a casual fan of MMA. I as close follower of the sport so I wasn't surprised by his losses.

If you want to disagree with me that's fine but have something more tangible than your opinion and nearly decade old video clips.
thanx for your reply...what would the world be like if everyone thought the same...st pierre lost to a lower level fighter,matt sera and fedor could take out that guy with one arm.i liked fedor the giant killer a lot...i still do...but the most improved fighter in recent years is easily nick diaz...
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reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 11:13 PM by blocula
Originally posted by Buddha1098
Your boy Diaz is on a tear... I think that stops against GSP. GSP will grind out another lopsided victory without finishing. I'd love to see Diaz take it.. But GSP isn't getting KO'd by Diaz and he isn't getting subbed.

I like GSP as a person but as a fighter he's so boring to watch. You really think Diaz has a chance?
en.wikipedia.org... <<< look at nick diazs record for the past few years,intense! and if you discount his "nc" because of a cut, which to me is not a loss at all and his pounding out of gomi, diaz did win, but the japanese got jealous cuz diaz beat their idol, diaz was drug tested and the fight was changed to a loss,did they test gomi for drugs? they should have,test them both or dont test either one of them...so... diaz is actually on a 16 fight win streak and hes got a really good chin, stronger than st pierres. excellent boxing,much better than pierres and hes great on the ground...if gsp trys boxing him.diaz will wear him down ...on the ground its maybe even,if diaz does win...he'll catapult himself right to the top of the heap and that'll be 17 straight wins and almost everyone of these wins is in the 1st 2nd or 3rd rounds...this has been one of my "dream" fights for quite awhile and now its reality...awesome or what!
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reply posted on 31-8-2011 @ 03:30 AM by Dinamo
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I watched your video and i remember that match!
he WAS great

but nowadays he seems to me without motive to go on.

on other hand; i'm convinced that so much crap people talk about him nowadays goes on his nerves and I can't wait to see the moment he goes back in training like he used to do. and to shut up Dana White's mouth. God forgive me but i really hate that pompose, ignorant, egoistic ex half-aerobics instructor

Killer will be back.
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