Mexico Is The Most violent Country In The World And Should Be Taken Over By The U.S. military

reply to post by purplemer
The american people cannot just sit back on the sidelines and act like nothing terrible is happening right on our doorsteps,because it is and we should never live in denial of that reality,while hypnotizing ourselves into a false sense of security,by thinking about the murderous rampage that has engulfed mexico as something thats only happening over there.Because we are not immune from those out of control wildfires of evil slaughter spreading out and spilling over into our country and thats exactly what will happen if we dont do anything about it...

reply to post by blocula


Who are we to tell a sovereign nation what to do? Especially when it is our own people that have been the largest cause of the problems they face? It is our war on drugs that have fueled the cartels in Mexico. It is our greedy corporations that moved production facilities out when it became easier and cheaper to exploit the masses in China. Have you not learned the lessons of the last decade? As it is we have a Congress that wants to gut our own social safety nets to give the billionaire lobby more tax breaks, do you really think that they are gonna raise taxes to pay for a war in Mexico?

Maybe just maybe you should read something other than the sensational headlines and stop watching Fox News for your information. Because the fact that Mexico is actually ahead of Canada in oil production has escaped you. The only thing you are correct in is that a vital, stable and economically sound Mexico is in our national best interests. But it isn't something that can be established at the end of a gun.

No need to invade, just legalize all the drugs they are killing each other to import. Legalize it, regulate it, sell it, tax it. This will stop the violence south of our boarder. Matter of fact this will even work its way all the way to the top of these cartels. Believe me cartels don't want it legal.....it would cut into the profits.....

reply to post by GuidedKill


It isn't just that simple anymore, the cartels are large sophisticated and have branched out into other criminal behavior. You are correct that they don't want it legalized, but at this point it won't destroy them. Mexico has no real easy solutions ahead of it. Even if we legalized drugs tomorrow it would still take a long time to reign in the corruption and economic instability the cartels enjoy.

I swear,I wonder if some people talk before they think or are they being detained in some electronic delusion that causes them to say things of this very nature.
If I go down to mexico,in an urban fight,we will turn it into Beruit. Cuba,Russia,China Venezuela and most anyone else will be putting in a counterforce and thus gain an extremely close foot hold to your family and my gun collection.
How will the Mexicans currently living in the country enjoy my Cav unit rolling and firing at pockets of resistance with armor and aircraft at my beck and call?Their friends ,their families by the thousands,you idiot.I don't know about the rest of you,by this knuckle dragger has a brain.

Originally posted by KeliOnyx
reply to post by blocula

 

Who are we to tell a sovereign nation what to do? .

We do it all the time and for a very long time we have been doing exactly that,all over the world, thousands of miles away and so why should'nt we directly involve our military when its concerning a country thats bodering our own? Vicious armed gangs of drug dealers and ex mexican soldiers are kidnapping and beheaded hundreds of people every month and their dismembered corpses are being hung from expressway over passes and their broken bodies and severed heads are thrown all over the streets.Crowds of people are being machined gunned to death in homes,stores and clubs.Children are being executed,shot in the head while on their way to school and women are being raped,tortured and killed,then thrown away like trash and without a doubt those vicious evil things will spill over and spread into america and so what should we do about stopping that from happening to our citizens? nothing?

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We have the same guns they do, our military is gonna make no difference. We have been in other countries for years, and solved nothing, just created PTSD and make ourselfs look weak...

Originally posted by GuidedKill
No need to invade, just legalize all the drugs they are killing each other to import. Legalize it, regulate it, sell it, tax it. This will stop the violence south of our boarder. Matter of fact this will even work its way all the way to the top of these cartels. Believe me cartels don't want it legal.....it would cut into the profits.....

Even if drugs were legalized in mexico,that would not stop the cartels from continuing to control it,enforce it and kill innocent people over it...

reply to post by blocula


What have you not learned from Afghanistan? Going in there guns blazing will do absolutely nothing other than to 1.) breed growing anti-American resentment in the civilian population.
2.) replace old cartel leadership, with new more brutal and depraved cartel leadership.
So lots of people dead more anti-American sentiment in the world and a western hemisphere that will be terrified that we will invade them if it is in our perceived interests. You wouldn't be too thrilled if Canada decided our gun violence was something they couldn't allow and decided to invade to make things better for us. So why would you think you have the moral authority to autonomously decide what is best for Mexico?

Originally posted by dayve
We have the same guns they do, our military is gonna make no difference. We have been in other countries for years, and solved nothing, just created PTSD and make ourselfs look weak...

But theres one gigantic difference,we have a massively superior airforce and they do not and we could wipe out the drug gang cartels using our air power,without ever setting an american boot on mexican soil,if we really wanted to.We could spray and spread agent orange where the cartels are and defoliate and expose their jungle hideouts,their training camps and their drug groves and then cluster bomb and precision airstrike them out of existence and we should do it as vengeance served in the memories of all those tens of thousands of innocent people those cartels have murdered and to prevent them from bringing their rampage of death to america and start killing americans.The drug gang cartels have sown the wind and they should be made to reap a terrible whirlwind...

andaleeeee

US is the most violent country in the world and should be reclaimed by the true, native Americans of Mexico

viva Mejicoooooo!

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by dayve
We have the same guns they do, our military is gonna make no difference. We have been in other countries for years, and solved nothing, just created PTSD and make ourselfs look weak...

But theres one gigantic difference,we have a massively superior airforce and they do not and we could wipe out the drug gang cartels using our air power,without ever setting an american boot on mexican soil,if we really wanted to.We could spray and spread agent orange where the cartels are and defoliate and expose their jungle hideouts,their training camps and their drug groves and then cluster bomb and precision airstrike them out of existence and we should do it as vengeance served in the memories of all those tens of thousands of innocent people those cartels have murdered and to prevent them from bringing their rampage of death to america and start killing americans.The drug gang cartels have sown the wind and they should be made to reap a terrible whirlwind...

edit on 6-4-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)

THAT could work.. we could just send drone planes, they wouldnt be able to detect them.

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by kro32
You really want to add that entire nation to our welfare system?

it's already stretched thin as it is.

no just send the troops in there and get rid of the drug gangs

Before punishment, people involved in these drug gangs, so called, must be found "guilty" of something in an open fair process..

Sending in Federal reserve goons to kill innocent un-tried un-convicted people.. would be summary extrajudicial execution of innocent folks.. the domain of infamous tyrants like bush, odumba & hitler et al.

..besides, I've recently been to Baja on vacation.. wasn't scared, no paranoid delusions of "danger" based on fake internet fear hype. Had a frik'n blast too, everything was cheap & easy going.. alcohol, substances with a euphoric recreational component, girls..horses too..lol.

Mexico could end all their illegal drug issues tomorrow by ending prohibition... a proven historic failure.

Why is it the U.S.'s job to save them? Do people realize what kind of logistic and financial NIGHTMARE that would be?

Here's what I believe should/should have happened. And apologies for being graphic but we're talking reality here.

The men (and women) should/should have formed posses after gathering every single weapon they could and cleanse the entire system.

Meaning starting with the corrupt cops and officials, and working their way down through the cartels. And it should swiftly be done with as much brutality and force as possible even to double or triple the degree the gangs dish out.

I only say this because that type of violent force and corruption won't end with votes and peaceful assembly.

The cops there are corrupt, the politicians bought off, the Mayors bought, a large majority in office. "Justice" doesn't exist there and the whole system is a joke. And with a system that broken with SOCIOPATHS running around with guns, the only fix is good old vigilante justice in this case.

They all need to be met with the coldness and harshness they dish out to the people of Mexico. Cold blooded killers need to be met with the same force and then some. I hope one day the Mexican people rise up and make every Narco leader shake with fear because they're the lowest forms of vampires on Earth.

Originally posted by GovtFlu

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by kro32
You really want to add that entire nation to our welfare system?

it's already stretched thin as it is.

no just send the troops in there and get rid of the drug gangs

Before punishment, people involved in these drug gangs, so called, must be found "guilty" of something in an open fair process..

Like the people of hiroshima,nagasaki,dresden and hamburg during ww-2?

reply to post by PaxVeritas


Because most americans like to go to mexico on vacation from time to time and it would be nice to go their and not get shot.... Where else can you pay a hooker to pull you through town on a donkey while suckin down some moscow...

Originally posted by PaxVeritas
Why is it the U.S.'s job to save them? Do people realize what kind of logistic and financial NIGHTMARE that would be?

The us military had no problem sending millions of american troops to france and germany,to japan, north korea and vietnam,to iraq and afghanistan,all many thousands of miles away and so why not into mexico?

Why should'nt we directly involve our military when its concerning a country thats bodering our own? and theres lots of oil in mexico as well...

Vicious armed gangs of high paid drug crazed drug dealers,enforcers,hit men,serial killers and ex mexican soldiers are kidnapping and beheaded hundreds of people every month and their dismembered corpses are being hung from expressway over passes and their broken bodies and severed heads are thrown all over the streets. Crowds of people are being machined gunned to death in homes,stores and clubs.Children are being executed, shot in the head while on their way to school and women are being raped,tortured and killed,then thrown away like trash...

Without a doubt those vicious evil things will spill over and spread into america and so what should we do about stopping that from happening to our citizens? nothing?

And most importantly,the evil drug crazed cartels already are killing americans and thats where and when the cartels crossed the line,what should be the point of no return for them...

They have sown the wind and they should be forced to reap a very terrible whirlwind from above,by our supremely powerful airforce...

What would happen if members of the american congress,or american senators found out that some of their sons and daughters were been kidnapped,raped,tortured,beheaded and thrown into the street by drug cartels?

But i suppose as long as the people the evil cartels keep slaughtering are not members of elite society, one of the beautiful people,we'll continue doing nothing...

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Originally posted by blocula
The us military had no problem sending millions of american troops to france and germany,to japan, north korea and vietnam,to iraq and afghanistan,all many thousands of miles away and so why not into mexico?

Because the cartels work for the US government.

Vicious armed gangs of high paid drug crazed drug dealers,enforcers,hit men,serial killers and ex mexican soldiers are kidnapping and beheaded hundreds of people every month and their dismembered corpses are being hung from expressway over passes and their broken bodies and severed heads are thrown all over the streets. Crowds of people are being machined gunned to death in homes,stores and clubs.Children are being executed, shot in the head while on their way to school and women are being raped,tortured and killed,then thrown away like trash...

You keep repeating this but it is exaggeration. Sure there is violence but Honduras and Jamaica are even more violent. Where is the call to invade those countries? There isn't. This makes me think that the news of "violence" in mexico is a fabrication. Part of a plan and you are falling for it hook, line and sinker

Oh and by the way your assertion that legalization will not stop the violence is wrong.

does not help us with them pesky muslims, so, um no