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Ronald Reagan: The Greatest President of all time!

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posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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I used to be a HUGE Reagan fan.

My first pres to vote for actually.

Now, seeing things in retrospect, hearing about some stuff he signed....not so much.

I tried before to write it off to "induced" alzheimers. Cant now.

It really kills me because of all the anti commy stuff he did in the 50's. He was an actor.

Rex 84. nuff said.




posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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To be fair,

my money did one helluva lot more then than now.

Levi 501's -$15
Levi unlined jacket - $35-40
Gas- 65-70 cents.
candy bar (when they were 4oz.) .35 or 40 cents. (mmmmm. alpine white big block!)
Feature movie ticket- 4 or 5 bucks.
All day trip to Six Flags - 20 or 25 bucks.
NIce tennis shoes - 30 bucks.

obama aint near that.



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Trying to keep out of American political threads at the moment, crikey you are seriously bitter and divided. I've posted this music vid before but this is a plum placement for it. We suffered from Reagan's good friend Maggie Thatcher. This man says much of what is pertinent today.


edit on 16/8/11 by goldentorch because: vid



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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Regan is a loser. Obama is a winner!
Seeing how he is the anti-jesus.



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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I think, to be fair, you have to look at the context of the times and what and where Reagan had taken the "Conservative image" at that point in time. He also had to deal with a Democratic House. Ron Paul, as an example would have been before his time during Reagan's era, and never taken off. Things evolve and move forward. Reagan took that step and moved things forward so people like Ron Paul could bring forth their vision.



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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Which President started our rise to the moon? Which President took the power away from the FED through Executive Order #11110? Which President died for The People?

Reagan wasn't a bad President, but he was certianly not the best either. His best trait imho was that he was a strong leader, capable of getting what he wanted. I'd say he's in the TOP10 of all-time because we've had to of had a couple better Presidents that helped our country far more than he did.



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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my favourite was when he fell asleep on camera

however give the man credit he was a witty fellow
www.youtube.com...



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
savings and loan crises

iran contra scandal

double digit unemployment

obama is actually pretty similar if you ask me !



Jimmy Carter

Stagflation

Created that Double Digit unemployment situation

Iran Hostage situation

Politically impotent both Domestically as well as internationally...

Yeah Reagan was much better actually...


Now what about President Kotow?


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posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ultraman2011
reply to post by felonius
 


I think, to be fair, you have to look at the context of the times and what and where Reagan had taken the "Conservative image" at that point in time. He also had to deal with a Democratic House. Ron Paul, as an example would have been before his time during Reagan's era, and never taken off. Things evolve and move forward. Reagan took that step and moved things forward so people like Ron Paul could bring forth their vision.



Trust me,

It took A LOT of soul searching to turn against Reagan. He was the guy that made the rest of the world either fear us or respect us. Equally good.

Maybe he signed some of those bills thinking they were laundry receipts? I can only hope.

He was a hero....before I saw the treasonous acts.



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 10:12 PM
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Ronald Reagan was one of the worst presidents in the 20th century, I can't figure out for the life of me why people loved him so much.

Reagan more than tripled the national debt and sent the deficit skyrocketing, growing faster in real dollars than under any other president, including Obama. Budget deficits grew from about $20B in the late 70s to about $150B in the mid 80s.

He catastrophically lowered taxes in 1981, creating debt so bad he raised taxes each of the next six years (1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, and 1987) and still didn’t make up for it. Reagan’s streamlining of the income tax created the largest-ever shift of tax burden from the wealthy to the middle-class and working poor, resulting in expanding the income gap, which continues 30 years later.

As Governor of California, he cut social spending to the bone and created the homeless problem by turning hundreds of thousands of mentally ill people out on the streets, then moved to the big-time and put tens of thousands of mentally ill people out on the streets by curtailing federal funds to the institutions.

He ignored AIDS — the biggest health crisis of the century — while tens-of-thousands of people died. He told Surgeon General C. Everett Koop to produce a report detailing the long-term physical and emotional trauma a woman suffered as a result of having an abortion. Koop, an abortion foe, but a good scientist, discovered that, in fact, a woman did not suffer long-term physical or emotional trauma as a result of having an abortion. Reagan suppressed the report.

Reagan traded arms, money, drugs and hostages between Iran and the Nicaraguan rebels, gave chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein and spent billions on the boondoggle of an "anti-missile shield". Which, incidentally, violated the ABM treaty, in addition to wasting a lot of money.

I'm not sure how many people remember the air traffic controllers strike in the 1980's but Reagan stepped in and essentially fired them all and hired replacement permanent workers. That one act set the ball in motion for union busting and began what we now see as diminishing workers rights. Reagan was probably the worst president for average working class people many of whom had risen to middle class status based on great union jobs that provided adequate living wages and decent benefits.

Ronald Reagan changed America, and -- with all due deference to his dedication to principle, his indomitable spirit, his affability -- not for the better.



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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nice pics Slayer

pity the doofus did not receive the proper instruction on the Japanese bow (nothing below the shoulder - unless you want to fall to the floor on your knees and stomach)



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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Reagan't policy's weren't that great however he had a strong agenda and believed in it and was able to convey that strength to the American people. The other great Presidents all have this in common. Lincoln, FDR, you get the picture.

A President's job is to set the course for the country and to preside over the process and make sure we stay on that course. They must be clear about their objectives and ruthless in the pursuit of it and above all they must portray the strength that the office requires.

Reagan did all of these things even though how he did it may not have had the best results. We've had too many Presidents that are wishy washy and too full of fluff lately and that's a reason I think Hillary Clinton will probably win in 2016 if she runs.



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 11:18 PM
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Please...



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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Did you serve under him? Under his monetary policy ? Under his fed? Get back to me.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 01:35 AM
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Your location speaks volumes about your political affiliation and beliefs.

My roommate is from that area, his family was deeply involved in Democrat politics in the Granite City area.

There is no doubt you voted for and support the Socialist in Chief.

That said there also was and is a large population that did not like Reagan.

History has proved for the time in this country's history he was the best man for the job.

Washington actually did not have much to do as President,it was a figurehead position at the time and the country was not that big either.

All the other leaders of the world at that time respected Reagan,not just the American people.

I spoke with both Carter and Reagan.

Carter at Camp David and Reagan over a speaker phone from the situation room in the White House.

Even though I was in a duty status both times,Carter called me by my last name and rank where Reagan addressed me by my first name.

Carter was out of his league in the White House,but was a nice guy.

But very aloof.

Reagan was like the high school principal that all the kids liked.

If you were around him for any period of time you just LIKED the man.

The old guy took a bullet and lived to laugh about it.

He was also the only union leader to become President.

We all know where Obama will rank in that listing in the future.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 01:44 AM
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Ronald Reagan was an actor

An actor, a person who mastered the art of projection...

He had a hair do like Bobs Big Boy

and he introduced the 180% compounding national debt

He was also a firm opponent of his own fiscal policies

Americans loves American Idol

Need Janky say Fawking More???
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posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by Ultraman2011
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He did what he could at the time:

www.house.gov...



You mean raise them?

Just say it. He raised taxes. Does it hurt to say it?



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 08:20 AM
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Everybody dances around it; I will say it.

He ended the disastrous policy of appeasement that Democrats called "Detente." America under Carter merely withdrew from any contested nation where the Soviets were trying to establish a presence.

He replaced it with the "rollback" of communism; proclaiming the ideals of freedom and democracy, and actively aiding other countries who were battling communist insurgents in their own countries.

Reagan won the Cold War.

I was a voter back then. EVERYONE but the British Executive (Margaret Thatcher) told him that the USA would lose, that communism was inevitable in developing states, that if he was successful, the SU might be driven to attack us out of desperation.

Everyone said that; and I mean everyone. The evening news. The UN. Congress. Saturday night live.

Reagan was right.




Sure he took naps. But he eventually woke up from each one. Obama has been "asleep at the switch" for 6 months now. What has he done but play golf and bit about how no one takes him seriously.

I would take Ronald Reagan, drunk and in a ditch, over 10 Obamas on his best day (which I sure as hell hope hasn't come yet.)



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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Growing up in the 80's, I got to say I liked the big lug too. But I have come to find that I am quite to the right of Reagan. And much of his greatness was a matter of being the right man at the right time. Reagan, first and foremost was akin to being everyone's grandfather.

When he spoke, he spoke with the people and not to them even when he was explaining an action that he had already taken. Ronny and Nancy made an elegant first couple. They always looked both comfortable and in place in their tux and evening gowns.

The GOP was in shambles over the Watergate scandal and Ford's first action of Nixon's Pardon. No one wanted to follow Ford's policies but if you go back and look at them with a clear eye, they were solid. Reagan did afterall.


Reagan's greatest strength was simply that he did not focus on the negative. Music and pop culture at the time was full of barbs and jabs. He just smiled and didn't consider them as anything more than light criticism. Which was far lighter than any he endured while acting.

For the one member that said that they had not seen any of his movies, they can be woefully painful to watch today. I can't recall the title of the film but there was one where he was with Errol Flynn of all actors and they were Lee, Grant and Custer right after West Point and just prior to the Civil War...terrible film and travesty of history but somewhat entertaining and perfect example why people should not let Hollywood (or other forms of art) be their sole source of history and education.

Ultimately Reagan was Reagan, he was himself and took command and confidence of others for that bit of honesty. Yes, Nancy consulted astrology and yes there was an unofficial presidential astrologer. But does not that bit of humanity make the man seem all the more down to earth like the rest of us?



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 11:37 AM
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The King of England.

Sure they had taxes....but atleast Americans had a home of their own and could keep a rifle in their home and weren't bothered about it.



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