Comment of the Year, by Sergeant Lewis (Concerning Paul's stance on Iran/foreign wars)

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
reply to post by Praetorius

 

Source

The military wants its personnel to participate in our democratic process -- within limits. DOD encourages active duty military members to vote, and has established several programs to help active duty personnel to register and cast absentee ballots. What career military officer or senior NCO has never had to pull a stint as unit "voting officer," or "voting NCO?" But, when it comes to actively campaigning for a specific political candidate or partisan objective, the military draws the line.

No where in this does it say that soldiers cannot say they support a certain candidate. They just can't work for their campaign.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
reply to post by Praetorius

 

They are under an oath to serve. The grunts always complain nothing special there.

It is illegal to represent any of the armed forces in a partisan campagn. By claiming to be a Sgt in the Army and expressing views towards a candidate he would have bought himself a free ticket to levinworth penitentiary. As a private citizen off duty individuals are allowed to support candidates, but not in the name of the armed forces.
THIS IS WHY THIS IS A HOAX.

He didnt represent the armed forces, just admitted he was a member. How is that criminal? If what he did is considered criminaI I find it very distrurbing we would actually lock up soilders for exercising their right to freedom of speech. He did nothing wrong. Whether what he did was legal or not it doesnt prove that it is a hoax so why bring it up?

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
reply to post by kn0wh0w

 

Hold the phone here, the only message here is that a guy claiming to be a US Army Sgt. said something and that something in the message carries weight precisely because of who he claims to be.
If it can't be proven who he actually is, there is no message.

Simple as that. (But I know, logic has no child safety seat on the Ron Paul shortbus)

It may as well said,
"Hi this is XXXXX that whacks off all day and plays video games when my mom's not wiping my arse, (then continues with the exact same message that you like from the story, ie...how dare they call Ron Paul supporters this or that etc)

Does that carry weight with you? Seriously? LOL

You sound like the type of person that would disagree with Charles Manson for saying the sky is blue just because he's Manson. The message is still valid, no matter who wrote it. And it's a message any civilian or military person should get behind. War is bad enough when necessary. There hasn't been a necessary war that the U.S. has been involved in since 1945.

/TOA

Regardless of whether the poster of this commentary is real, fictitious, in the army, not in the army, a sgt or a captain-the message to me is valid, pertinent, to the point and well written.

If the message is right does it really matter who the messenger is?

Originally posted by PhantomLimb

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
I highly doubt an active duty level headed Sgt. who keeps his men alive would throw his career down the waste shoot to go on political rages over the internet.

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Any Sergeant would read your comment and say, "What career?". Yeah, I'm sure some Sgt. is just not going to say anything on a comment section at the Hill just so they don't lose their ability to collect food stamps for their family AND have the low paying job that comes with it.

That was woefully misinformed statement: As a retired USAF Msgt (E-7) I can say I lived happily and raised a family (2 kids) within my means without food stamps for my entire military career. I didn't own many expensive new cars, but had my share of toys( motorcycles). Its all about personal responsibility and choices.

I had an "epiphany" early on. while driving around on base; as a young SSgt(e5) one day. I had the "hots" for a bmw 3-series sedan; and a "3striper" ( "senior airman"E-4) pulled up along side in one;
I realized I could indeed spend one paycheck on the payment and the other on insurance and maintenance too (myself)! but I qickly realized theeconomic folly of that thinking! The military offers fine "careers" filled with worldly experiences and training..

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Lol,
Any anonymous underaged pimplefaced mommy nippletugger could have wrote that. Or any intelligent well educated person could have pulled a gag on his supporters by writing it.

And this detracts from the points made how? Please, rather than extrapolate the possible source, I would think energy of thought would be better spent in considering the merit of these points. Um... Don't You?

The fact that people are lapping this up is funny because it is so desperately pathetic.

Eh? Do. Please elaborate by quoting and reasoning. Making this remark without backing it up is beneath ATS standards, really.

I highly doubt an active duty level headed Sgt. who keeps his men alive would throw his career down the waste shoot to go on political rages over the internet.

Ok. But whether this is a... What was it? An "anonymous underaged pimplefaced mommy nippletugger" ( ) Who wrote this or it is truly written as claimed, the US behavior in the world does NOT reflect the mainstay of Our Human population.

More and more of Us are becoming conspiracy aware merely by asking whether a "story" can explain what We actually observe. And the "standard model," all Disney-bright, fails to fit the evidence. We are seemingly no longer in control.

I invite You to read My work here on ATS and look forward to answering any question. See My links - most are My work.

I am hoping You can show more thought and less vitriol in any reply to Me You make.

I'm a US Army Specialist (E4) and I am an out spoken critic of the war, I have been fortunate enough to never have been deployed to either Afghanistan or Iraq and i've served almost 5 years in the Army.

I would've deployed if it was asked of me but my wife has Multiple Sclerosis and she has a child.

I've been to Korea twice and the second time there I had to be compassionately reasigned because it wasn't safe for my wife to care for a baby by her self.

SGT Lewis did good by stating what he believes in.

Originally posted by agentblue

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Lol,
Any anonymous underaged pimplefaced mommy nippletugger could have wrote that. Or any intelligent well educated person could have pulled a gag on his supporters by writing it.

It's just a comments section. Sign up fake name and disposable hotmail address, bam you can claim to be anyone your heart desires.

The fact that people are lapping this up is funny because it is so desperately pathetic.

I highly doubt an active duty level headed Sgt. who keeps his men alive would throw his career down the waste shoot to go on political rages over the internet.

edit on 16-8-2011 by TinfoilTP because: (no reason given)

I did throw my military/intel career down the crapper because of this topic and was vocal to all of my CO's. I spent 6 months in the Brig and don't regret any of it. Stop assuming you know what a soldier would do. Even if you were a soldier, you wouldn't know what your comrades are thinking all the time.

Although I want the troops home and dont dig the war, am I wrong to thank you guys? Yall signed up to serve regardless of peace time or war. Regardless of the situation, that DOES mean something to me. I have family over there. Hell, I tried to go myself back in the early 90's when I was about half my age. They gave me some BS about height/weight ratio. I was 5ft6 and 170. All muscle (no drugs). At the time I was pissed but now see it as a blessing. I didnt ask navy. I dont do big water. Cant run from sharks.

At the risk of your ire, I honestly do "thank you for your service".

I just wish the government would treat you better and not consider you as a piece of meat.

reply to post by Nephalim


@Livertarian - So, your point is that we should just trust that Iran, a State dedicated to the destruction of the United States and its allies, will build the bomb and not use it? You obviously have a lack of understanding on nuclear non-proliferation.

Perfect example of how people are COMPLETELY controlld by fear.

Iran is dedicated to destroying Americuh' huh? Yeah they REALLY seem to be cranking out those ICBMs to counter our MASSIVELY overdeveloped nuclear arsenal.

What the # does it take for people to free themselves of this fearmongering bull#?

The man clearly understands the ignorance of the US government and the retards that suck up to it

Originally posted by 46ACE

Originally posted by PhantomLimb

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
I highly doubt an active duty level headed Sgt. who keeps his men alive would throw his career down the waste shoot to go on political rages over the internet.

edit on 16-8-2011 by TinfoilTP because: (no reason given)

Any Sergeant would read your comment and say, "What career?". Yeah, I'm sure some Sgt. is just not going to say anything on a comment section at the Hill just so they don't lose their ability to collect food stamps for their family AND have the low paying job that comes with it.

That was woefully misinformed statement: As a retired USAF Msgt (E-7) I can say I lived happily and raised a family (2 kids) within my means without food stamps for my entire military career. I didn't own many expensive new cars, but had my share of toys( motorcycles). Its all about personal responsibility and choices.

I had an "epiphany" early on. while driving around on base; as a young SSgt(e5) one day. I had the "hots" for a bmw 3-series sedan; and a "3striper" ( "senior airman"E-4) pulled up along side in one;
I realized I could indeed spend one paycheck on the payment and the other on insurance and maintenance too (myself)! but I qickly realized theeconomic folly of that thinking! The military offers fine "careers" filled with worldly experiences and training..

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www.military.com...

So much for me being woefully ill-informed.