reply to post by rexusdiablos
The only impoverished people in Europe I have seen due to Europe is those that just don't want to contribue, I have met far too many smart and happy
and gradeful people who's countries entered europe, in fact the company I works for Hires many people from those countries, not because they are
cheap ( they get paid the same as the reast of us here, A LOT more than the UK and Ireland ) but because they are SMART and hard working and yes,
their education is STRONGER in math and sciences which we need and the UK and Ireland failed to deliver to us but that can be another thread topic
Now, all I see is people blaming Europe for their own problems, it was their own selves that made their own problems.
Europe is NOT to blame, infact Europe can , and DID make things better in many ways even economical, it was the local governments that messed it up,
Europe can take care of its own, Europe can and will fix it, the problem is the local governments sticking to their status quos which do not work,
recessions will hit people whether in Europe or not in europe.
All the huff puffing with independant politicans wanting to leave is just a wasted vote ( arguable all votes are wasted but again that is another
thread ). They couldnt run a country, especially not in a global world. They just spout rhetoric to get votes to file their expenses in the
parlament and to get themselves a bigger sallary, nothing more.
The worst thing that could be done is to leave europe, infact Iceland, an EEA memeber, that defaulted when it went bankrupt, is discussing to enter
europe from just an EEA member to a full member. They could remain outside, but they know that that is not going to solve their problem. Norway,
while very independant with oil, and thorium in the future and deturium (heavy water), also is an EEA member, because they are not stupid, they know
if being outside the EEA will be bad for them. Same for all those other countries that are gagging to get in, they also know it will help them in many
Europe isnt the problem, infact it is a part of the solution, seriously, pony up some balls and admit that your own local governments fecked it
edit on 17-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)