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Ron Paul will only become your President if the elites say he can.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by petrus4
If someone is going to end the wars, slash military spending, and grant me more social/economic liberties, why should I be opposed to that?
Originally posted by kro32
So if Ron Paul stops these wars as he says he will it begs the question of what he considers reason enough to send troops to a foreign land.
Has anyone ever heard him mention what he would consider acceptable?
Originally posted by simone50m
There are -millions- of Americans, and a handfull of Elites. Dorothy's friends cowered at "The great and powerfull Oz" until she yanked the privacy curtain off of him, showing him to be a full of hot air fx balloon guy, and thats all.
Originally posted by petrus4
From my understanding of your Constitution, a President does not rightfully have the ability to either start or end wars. That power is supposed to belong to the Congress. So if Ron Paul was willing to adhere to the Constitution as you expect him to, that means that he won't have the power to end the wars by himself. That will have to be done by the Congress, and given the Republican Party's apparent desire for war in particular, GOP Congressmen could well decide to vote for the war to continue.
A President alone is not going to have the power to cut your government's military spending, as well. From what I've read, economic appropriations usually have to go through the House of Representatives; the Executive doesn't have the ability to make budget decisions unilaterally.
So if Ron Paul is loyal to your Constitution, he is not going to have the ability, by himself, to do the things that you want him to.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
However, since we don't live in a constitutional republic any longer, arguing what the constitution says the president can or can not do is pointless.
For example, the wars in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan were not authorized by a congressional declaration of war.
Originally posted by Frira
reply to post by mnemeth1
So, If Ron Paul gets elected, expect to see him flip-flop on his campaign rhetoric-- they all do.
Originally posted by petrus4
Mnemeth, I'm honestly disappointed. I've seen you make some quality posts, and you're listed as a Gold contributor, after all.
In other words, I can expect other people to succumb to the groupthink and jump on the Ron Paul bandwagon; but it saddens me that you have also.
Ron Paul will only become your President if the elites say he can. He already made the statement once, on air, that he didn't like David Rockefeller. When he did that, he destroyed his chances of ever becoming President. It was only after that, that Fox News started trying to censor his debates.
I'm also trying to understand how you can call yourself an anarchist, (specifically an anarcho-capitalist) while encouraging people to vote for a particular individual to become the leader of a state. I tend to self-identify as an anarchist, as well; but in my case, that means I don't vote, and it also means that I try and encourage people not to view themselves as needing the state's permission or involvement to do anything. Governments in my view are crime syndicates; and I don't think of myself as a criminal.edit on 16-8-2011 by petrus4 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Originally posted by kro32
So if Ron Paul stops these wars as he says he will it begs the question of what he considers reason enough to send troops to a foreign land.
Has anyone ever heard him mention what he would consider acceptable?
There are no reasons unless it is to stop aggressive behavior against US citizens.
Basically he wouldn't commit America to a foreign war unless America was being actively attacked by a foreign nation.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Originally posted by Frira
reply to post by mnemeth1
So, If Ron Paul gets elected, expect to see him flip-flop on his campaign rhetoric-- they all do.
Ron Paul has never flip-flopped on an issue during his entire 18 terms in congress.
Ever.
Not once.
On that point, you are most certainly wrong.
Ron Paul is an ideological purist motivated by Austrian economics and the non-aggression principle. He is literally incorruptible.
edit on 16-8-2011 by mnemeth1 because: (no reason given)