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Q: You say you’re a strict constructionist of the Constitution, and yet you want to amend the Constitution to say that children born here should not automatically be US citizens.
A: Well, amending the Constitution is constitutional. What’s the contradiction there?
Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by Wowbagger
How is this thread bashing Ron Paul. It's simply bringing attention to some statements made by a former colleague of his. Doesn't require more research than the content shown..
Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by Wowbagger
I am the only one on this site I know of that is looking at Ron Paul without blinders on and looking into possible negatives of him being President. This site is becoming overwhelmed with blind support for Paul and the hysteria for this man is reaching epic proportions.
I will fight the lonely fight for truth while the others bury their head in the sand and in the end I will probably vote for Ron Paul myself however I will do it knowing the complete picture of what he is and not out of blind devotion for an idea.
I am not a libertarian in part because libertarians are so fixated on "let the market decide" and so against anything that looks like a tariff that they are practically internationalists.
The libertarian argument about outsourcing seems to be that if companies can make it cheaper elsewhere, then let them.
Likewise with illegal immigration; basically, a company's sole obligation is to maximize profit and who is a big evil state to tell them what ethics should look like.
All those pretty thoughts are wonderful as long as you are a wealthy educated white male.
Their stance that prostitution should be legal makes sense if you are a white educated male with a car. But if you are an under-age female immigrant with no family and no job skills, you're going to end up being a bitch for some pimp. But that's ok, because Ron can't imagine what that would be like....
I like libertarians; I agree with many of their views. But the fact that they substitute money for ethics makes them people I cannot personally support.
There is no such thing as trespassers and land owners, it's all a mass delusion, open doors is my suggestion.
Do you also leave the door on your house always open, and let strangers and homeless live inside your house if they want?
You cannot stop people from leaving the country without infringing on their rights, but there is nothing in libertarianism or natural rights that says stopping others from entering your country is wrong.
like you cannot stop people from leaving your land/house, but you have a right to stop them from entering your land if you dont want them to. Country-house analogy.
The U.S govt has no legitimate claim to the territory it deems the United States.
Horrible analogy, my home is my property -- a country is just imaginary.
Of course it has, when you are libertarian (and not an anarchist). When U.S. govt represents the opinion of the majority, it has a legitimate claim and a right to enforce any country entry rules the majority opinion wants.
Even when you are an anarchist there is nothing which says majority of "shareholders" cannot agree to not grant foreign people entry privilege to their commonly owned (now public) land. It just means they cannot stop you from harboring illegal immigrants on your private property if you want (easement right).
A land either belongs to one person (private land), or all shareholders of a company owning public land (now called the government). In both cases the owners or shareholders can decide to restrict access. There is no dry land that belongs to noone in this day and age.
Not to mention, if the government has no claim to the property then neither does the individual. It becomes less civilized and more survival of the fittest (or boldest).
How can one person declare they have private property rights, and at the same time claim the government that helps them protect those rights, has no rights of its own?
Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
You're speaking gibberish. How can a govt own land? To be the owner of property you must either trade for it or receive it as a gift. The U.S definitely didn't buy this territory and no one gave this land to it. How did it acquire this land?
Mmm. Gadsden purchase, Louisiana Purchase, Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo. Treaty of Paris. Treaty with various Native American Tribes.
So, the native americans didn't own it either. That means it was lost or abandoned property...x
Heh. It's the political dimension of "The Secret." If we disbelieve, the illusion will fade?
Rock dis jointed currently lists mood as "Anti-american." that contextualizes everything he/she/it says. America is wrong, even when the poster isn't right.