No Sex Please! We’re Just Kids!

You are actually hurting your children by surrounding them with fear.

I have seen a kid cry on an airplane because she didnt want to sit next to a man.
I have seen a kid look at a man in HORROR then back away behind his/her mum in a checkout queue at the store.

How is that helping children by putting the fear of god into them about people?


They grow up thinking everybody is a paedophile or worse. They start shouting "paedophile" at anybody they don't like. Just as non white people shout racist at anybody that doesnt agree with them.

Seriously, you are doing more harm than good.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by drew1749

 

Oh how typical of a certain mindset these days. They'll handle the fact many of their students are doing it by simply banning the book that defines it. I'm sorry, but banning a dictionary has reached the absolute bottom. Where is there to go down from here?? Thanks for the story. It helps to keep track of how far other schools are going in the PC madness.

edit on 16-8-2011 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)

Exactly. Banning books, handing out condoms, sex education, all that, will do not thing one to keep teens from having sex. Neither does religion, one of my own first conquests was the preachers daughter. I was taught that hair would grow in my palm if I masturbated, once I saw through that lie, the rest of the lies became clear to me.
This is why today's youth are so dumb. What with all of the banned books, and the teaching of useless facts will do nothing to teach a kid how to act in society, get a job, raise a family, make a living. All today's kids know who to do is work a keyboard and a game console, and eventually how to handle and shoot a weapon in war. Cannon fodder all.
And my Generation was able to stop a war. Sad.

reply to post by JennaDarling


I was far more likely to react that way due to the PEDOPHILE BEHAVIOR I had already experienced than by my father telling me that there were more out there. As I grew older, I learned to diffrentiate between predatory facial cues and someone genuinely enjoying a child's prattling company, or even a guy just enjoying the view. It's more than an appreciative or even hungry look.

Originally posted by CynicalDrivel
reply to post by JennaDarling

 

I was far more likely to react that way due to the PEDOPHILE BEHAVIOR I had already experienced than by my father telling me that there were more out there. As I grew older, I learned to diffrentiate between predatory facial cues and someone genuinely enjoying a child's prattling company, or even a guy just enjoying the view. It's more than an appreciative or even hungry look.

Unfortunately American and British children are very uncontrollable and irresponsable and immature, wheras in many European countries they are far more responsible and mature.

It comes with the environment, as we see in the British riots. It comes from their parents, and their friends (and their parents, ie., bad parenting , setting a bad example or just not giving a dam and hoping the school "parents" them while they go to work or go drink.

Britans and Americans are the type that hug gang / yob culture

Originally posted by OldCorp
America's school system... Schizophrenic much?

Schools teaching your ten-year-old about anal sex

Elwood Indiana "Health" class studies how to have sex and not get STDs

Myth: You can avoid STDs by having oral or anal sex. Fact: Where there's sex (oral, anal, vaginal, or even just sexual contact), there can be STDs. The viruses or bacteria that cause STDs can enter the body through tiny cuts or tears in the mouth and anus, as well as the genitals. Some STDs, like herpes or genital warts, can spread just through skin-to-skin contact with an infected area or sore. What can you do? Use a condom or a dental dam every time you have oral or anal sex. If the taste of latex isn't your thing, there are flavored condoms made specifically for oral sex. this is the site they are teaching our kids from for health class: www.teenshealth.org

So on the one hand, school systems are teaching pre-adolescents how to have oral and anal sex (it's happening all over the country) and now a school district bans the Mirriam-Webster Dictionary for defining it?

This country has gone insane.

Awesome post.

If this woman is really so concerned about such things, she should just throw away her TV. I'm serious. The media is at least a hundred times worse.


reply to post by JennaDarling

Indeed this is well said, even though I can't necessarily totally blame people for being a bit on edge; the fact of the matter is that this type of thing is indeed very common, from what I can gather. Seriously, just look at statistics -- shocking. Still, I do find it odd how it's men - and ONLY men - who are made to take all the blame for this.

Originally posted by CynicalDrivel
As I grew older, I learned to diffrentiate between predatory facial cues and someone genuinely enjoying a child's prattling company, or even a guy just enjoying the view.

(........) Uh........what?

Banning a dictionary seems rather odd....

As far as sex education, why not teach our children about it when they are young in a matter of fact way, AT HOME!!!

Has your child not seen the family male dog get excited? Have they not seen your cat have kittens? Or out on the farm to see these natural behaviors?

When my daughter first asked me about where babies came from, I pulled out my maternity books and showed her. When she asked me what feminine products were for I explained it. No big deal....When she asked me about sex I told her the simple facts in one sentence...NO BIG DEAL!!!

When we start acting like it is SUCH A BIG DEAL, it will be.

Teaching the morals and values behind the reasons for babies and sex seem so much more important!!!!!!

Teach your child about Love, Honesty, Humanity and Respect!!!!!

reply to post by Bleak


More like a sidenote/offtrack. Wasn't said to prove a point.

More on what I actually meant:

When you've been assaulted, and you come around someone who is like that again, when you don't pick up on behavioral or facial cues, you run the risk of having another predator attack you. As I got older, I didn't need my father's warning that some people aren't nice because I could often tell (not 100% of the time) that this is a person with bad intentions. If you ever watched a slow frame by frame of someone who is lying but is trying to come off as telling the honest truth, they look sincere for almost the whole discourse, but there's usually a split-second where they've got this smirk on their face? It's the same thing, but a different facial expression. It's a split second look of "I know what I going to do to you and you can't stop me." There's been some studies into it, and most people assume that it's intuititive. Also, as I was older (and I looked like an adult at about the age of 13), there were guys that were interested in me , and their looks meant just that--so I can tell the difference between an appreciative look and someone who is out to get me, although I rarely acted on it.

reply to post by OldCorp

So on the one hand, school systems are teaching pre-adolescents how to have oral and anal sex (it's happening all over the country) and now a school district bans the Mirriam-Webster Dictionary for defining it?

Ok hold up now, I have personally seen some examples of schools "teaching sex" so I get where you are coming from. But teaching these kids (who are already sexually active) how to PROTECT THEMSELVES is a logical thing to do.

Maybe you are completely disconnected from children these days, but I'm not, I work (loosely) in education and have various friends who have children of all ages.

Let me tell you, when I was in middle school (grades 7 to 9 then) we weren't having blow job parties. We weren't having lipstick parties, and girls were not dropping to their knees and going to town on you for a ride home.

Sure, every generation has sluts, but I really don't think you understand. Let me explain (hopefully the friend doesn't read this).

A friends 10 year old daughter explains to the parents that kissing is sex, but oral SEX isn't. Kissing is something you do with someone you love, a bj is like a handshake.

i'm not even kidding, these kids are going to have STDS before they even make it to college. Teaching them how to protect themselves is the only answer. they are kids, they aren't going to listen when you tell them not to, they aren't going to listen when you tell them how dangerous it is.

So you can either ignore it completely, and watch an entire generation crippled with STDS (the stats are alarming currently) or you can at least give them the information to protect themselves.

when I was in sex ed, kids thought oral sex was 100% safe, anal sex was 100% safe, and stds happened to someone else, not me.

I honestly think that if they took a similar route with drugs, teaching the dangers and reality, not just saying "Don't" and we might not have the epidemic we have now.

Not 2 months ago, a young girl, maybe 14, literally took her top and bra off at the McDonalds while several of the guys with her fondled her. This is how kids are acting at 14 and 12 now.

you might see this as teaching kids to have sex. i don't, I'm a realist, kids are going to have sex either way, at least with honest FACTS they might be better prepared to protect themselves.

Want to avoid teenage pregnancy? Do you say "Don't" or do you teach about protection methods? One gets you no where, the other at least gives them a chance.

Bleh. I am against bootie bandits, i dont care what gender you are its disgusting.

As for the post, we should be teaching kids about sex. It's important to for them to know how they were created, instead of shoveling the "stork" method down their throats, pull out some charts and diagrams. i'm not saying show them a full blown porno or even teaching them HOW to have sex, but there is nothing wrong in educating children on the parts and their functions. We also need to teach them about diseases.

I found out this spring that my 17 year old nephew was banging a college girl, and i asked him if he was using a condom and he said "no, it doesnt feel as good". I told him he was stupid, he and that girl both. She supposedly only had 1 partner before him and i told him he was also stupid for believing that crap because people will tell you whatever they think you want to hear, just so you wont think them hoes.

This ofcourse came from my sisters "put your head in the sand" tactic, by which she didnt teach them about sex and she's a nurse! Well, i also found out her 14 year old daughter (my niece) was also having sex and not using birth control or condoms. The SHTF when my sister did find out. I mean, how dumb or naieve can you be? They are going to have sex wether or not you tell them the who's the what's the when's and how's, so may as well teach them about protection and WHY its so important.

I just have to shake my head at how dumb some people are, even people who are in the medical profession can be immensely dumb. Sticking your head in the sand causes more problems than it solves.

I agree with most of these responses. Banning a dictionary won't do anything but get it taken off of the shelves. For a child to not be "exposed" you would need to shut off internet, television, and all communication with kids their age, who often think it's funny to discuss the naughty issues. Teaching a child how to respect their body, showing them what their body does, and educating them in a realistic, "no sugar coat" manner is what it takes. Telling them the "Stork" story is just stupid. It will only make them shocked and/or unable to process the real story if they are ever faced in a situation where they do not realize what may be happening, God forbid any child be put in that situation but it DOES happen. My 2 year old has had very general safety explained to him, because at this point, he doesn't need to know what sex is but he DOES need to know what is appropriate and what isn't. By banning something off of a shelf with no further explanation, it is only endangering our children more if they do not protect themselves from STDs, AIDs, and other diseases by having their head forced into the sand and not starting at a young age to explain that if it's done, do it safely.

reply to post by drew1749


More political correctness gone mad, doesn't really surprise me any more....

When I lived in Spain, I saw nudity in T.V. commercials. I went to the public beach and people were naked everywhere. It was an eye opener on the differences in cultures between my home country and Spain. Could you imagine that kind of thing in the U.S.?

reply to post by drew1749


This PC stuff has always gotten on my nerves. It is completely illogical and often hypocritical. First of all, the student must have already known of the term "oral sex" or else they wouldn't have been able to find it very easily. Second of all, a good dictionary should be able to define as many words as possible without fear of being "offensive." And there are so many other things I could say right now. But I think other people in the forum are handling this well.

Hasnt this always been the punchline to the banning joke?

Ever since the first word, image, book or film somebody has always asked in a mocking tone "what's next? Banning the dictionary for having dirty words?"

To which the reply was always "there's no such thing as a slippery slope. Don't be ridiculous."

Well, here it is. A banned dictionary.

Originally posted by Hydroman
When I lived in Spain, I saw nudity in T.V. commercials. I went to the public beach and people were naked everywhere. It was an eye opener on the differences in cultures between my home country and Spain. Could you imagine that kind of thing in the U.S.?

I am (proud) European, from Germany, now living in Spain

When i was living in the States, i was working at a big company where we unpacked shipments, often international.
One day, we got that shipment from Germany and they used, well, German newspapers as filler material.

My co-workers were totally "off the rocker" since the paper had very explicit nudity as is common in some of the more tabloid style papers in Europe sold everywhere I very well remember my co-workers disbelief upon holding that "packing material", they simply couldn't believe what they saw.

On a side-note, we dont watch TV anymore (didnt do in Germany and also not in Spain)...but the sex commercials are AT LEAST as annoying as the weight-loss commercials in the states. Gets old really, really quick.

Needless to say, i think the people would literally get a shock if they were to watch European TV commecials late at night. That person would probably die due to shock, seriously.

As for the Spanish ladies...uhm..hummm....wow... except we dont live near a beach (at least not in walking distance)

Back to topic: Those kids are not getting traumatized by nudity - but by their parents of course. US society is really "off"..that's why i said i am "proud" European...at least kids dont get "screwed up" mentally by growing up here, IMO.

reply to post by drew1749


I was about to sound shocked. Then I saw it was California and promptly was no longer shocked.

It's funny cause this crap doesn't even happen in the south.

reply to post by drew1749


What IS the definition that the child supposedly read? I didn't see anybody post it. Here's the definition per the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:

ORAL SEX: oral stimulation of the genitals : cunnilingus, fellatio

I think it should also be pointed out that the child was looking in a collegiate edition, not a children's dictionary (which wouldn't have an entry for oral sex).

I guess the'll band "Bambi" next since she has a vigina. Who knows....The world we live in these days.....Go Figure....

I don't blame Americans for being scared of their bodies.