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posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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With an upcoming election, I must admit that I have not yet taken the opportunity to take a good look at the GOP hopefu;s, at least not in depth as I usually do. Since ATS is my second home I thought it to be a good idea to come here for my info.

Ron Paul is often a topic for discussion here and I thought that I would come to my fellow ATS community for insight on Mr. Paul. Most imrtantly I wanted to pose the following questiom here and look over the results before I cast my voye fr Mr. Paul (or a different candidate depending on what I find here).

The question is as follows:

Why should I vote for Ron Paul and what puts him ahead of the ther candidates that are in the running for the GOP nomination?

I anxiously await my ATS community's input.




posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Curious why you only ask what's good about him. When I research a candidate the first think I ask is what's wrong with them. I also wouldn't go to a clearly biased site for accurate information.

There is all the information available to you in just a few minutes if you really wanted it so I'm presuming your actually just in the mood to make another support Ron Paul thread.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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If you can find another candidate who has stuck to the same values throughout his career, and understands and adhere's to strictly to the constitution like Mr Paul - by all means vote for them.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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Ron Paul is the only honest candidate running. He has not changed on his stand in 30 years. He does not care about tickling the ear to get votes. He tells a person what they need to hear not what they want to hear. The establishment has gotten the US in the mess that we are currently in and the down fall that we are facing as a nation. It is time to make the change that was promised to voters in the last election but got only more of the same. Ron Paul does not change his story, does not back down, and can not be bought.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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Look at his voting record. He's a stand up guy! He has not ONCE gone back on his word with contradicting vote. He wants good to come to the american people, REAL hope and change. He wants to downsize the giant federal/corporate establishment and get us out of the needless wars.

True liberty, freedom and the ability to pursue happiness. Hes not the kind of politician that will selectively enforce the constitution or bill of rights to further his agenda, he supports the whole thing. His agenda is power to the people. The only people who would disagree with him are socialists who want the government to provide everything for them.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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I think you should vote for him because he is the last hope for this country. The rest of the candidates want to follow suit with what Bush started and Barry continues, well except Herman Cain. But still, Mr Cain knows business. Dr Paul knows politics. These 2 would make great running mates. I was for a Paul/Trump ticket, but I think Cain would be excellent insurance against those who would seek to keep Paul a short-lived president.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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END the FED.


Google Video Link




The Case for Gold


Had the United States followed the recommendations of this amazing report when it came out in 1982, there would have been no housing bubble, no gigantic government debt, no depression, no economic upheaval, no high unemployment, and no international turmoil. This was a window of opportunity for reform. This is proof that Ron was proper. In 1982, Ron Paul served on the US Gold Commission to evaluate the role of gold in the monetary system. In truth, the commission was his concept. It was carrying forth a promise made in the Republican platform.


source


and one can not leave out...

Freedom!!






edit on 15-8-2011 by reeferman because: video links..



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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he wants to bring our troops home, ALL of them.


he is anti-abortion



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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He is anti-abortion. But he wouldn't interfere with states who condoned abortion. He thinks the government should stay out of it unless someone wants the gov to pay for it.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Consistency, Honesty, and Integrity. I am sure some of the other candidates have this quality but RP has a 58 year track record (He served his country honorably in the Air Force).

The other candidates have nothing to boast but inconsistent voting records and shady pasts. They are right here and there on some issues...Ron Paul is correct on the ones that matter most right now 100%.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Do what I did and visit ALL the hopefulls' websites and check their issues page and see where they stand on "the issues." I love how they all have "Donate" highlighted in red except RP. I had to click past Bachmann's 2x to even get to see where she stood on the issues and it took up a third of her page!!! Lol! They are all pretty much spouting the usual non-committal BS about the things we know NEED fixed, but nothing that really tells how they intend to fix them; leaving themselves plenty of wiggle room later. RP addressed the issues and then stated how he would attack them. That's my take and why I'll vote for him, but you need to do your own research. Good Luck!
edit on 15-8-2011 by SumerianSoldier because: spelling error



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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Being against abortion and using Federal Force to outlaw abortion are too different things. He is for states rights on the issue not for Federal force against people... Don't like your state because you can't knock up a dozen or more girls and walk away after an operation? Just move, though I doubt you will ever result to this.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by Old77
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Being against abortion and using Federal Force to outlaw abortion are too different things.


So, being against black people and Mexicans and using federal force to introduce segregation are also two different things? Just curious.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by youdidntseeme
 


Curious why you only ask what's good about him. When I research a candidate the first think I ask is what's wrong with them. I also wouldn't go to a clearly biased site for accurate information.

There is all the information available to you in just a few minutes if you really wanted it so I'm presuming your actually just in the mood to make another support Ron Paul thread.


Of course it's a biased site, show me a site that isn't biased in some way. All sites attract a market, and this site happens to attract a market of some intelligent people who stand firm on their convictions. Find yourself another forum, and I'm sure you'll run across a whole pack of them praising Bachmann, Romney, and the rest of the bunch, where you'll feel right at home.

Sick and tired that people talk about RP because there's nothing interesting to say about 'your pick'? Which I'm dying to know, by the way. Why not go start some threads about your pick? Show some support for them. Or are you just afraid nobody here will give a damn?

It seems lately that every RP thread that comes along, you make a lousy attempt at threadsh*tting (usually a first responder in the thread) to make an attempt at discrediting him, whereas you bring zero substance to back it up, and only resort to lame low blows much like the media, or make highly speculative claims. Your response here is a perfect example of such a thing.

If you want to be apart of an intelligent (biased) community, stick around. Otherwise, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

And please, for the love of God, change your avatar to something else until you can find a position that isn't anti-everything that it stands for.


And to answer the OP...
You can easily navigate all of your curiosities of his positions right here: www.ronpaul2012.com...
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posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by cripmeister
So, being against black people and Mexicans and using federal force to introduce segregation are also two different things? Just curious.


It sure is. Having an unpopular opinion, even one that is borderline or overtly racist, is a much different thing than to utlize force to express your opinion. There have been many in history who have been ani-Semetic, but are they equally to blame fr their opinions as say those who carried out the Holocaust? I do not think so.

T make the analgy a little more personal, I know many people wh are against me, and I am fine with that, but utilizing force to express that opinion, not so ok anymre.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:27 PM
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I suggest you do your own research instead of asking ATS, as you will only get biased information anyways.
The best thing to do is research and then make up your own opinion.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by youdidntseeme
 


Curious why you only ask what's good about him. When I research a candidate the first think I ask is what's wrong with them. I also wouldn't go to a clearly biased site for accurate information.

There is all the information available to you in just a few minutes if you really wanted it so I'm presuming your actually just in the mood to make another support Ron Paul thread.


I came here precisely because of that fact. If you are looking for some pros on a topic, you certainly do not go somewhere where all they spout are the cons of that very subject. I already know that yu are not an RP supporter, and I am not yet either, been leaning towards another candidate actually, but with RP coming into the mainstream ut of the fringe a little bit, I wanted some more info.

As fr what you would do first, thank you for your suggestion. Star for you for that input.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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He believes that the federal government should stay out of it and leave the decision to each individual state. On a personal basis he does oppose it.

But, he believes in individual liberty.
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posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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OP -- there are plenty of threads on here that discuss Ron Paul and his positions.

Call me paranoid but this feels like data mining. All in a days work I guess.

Pardon me if I'm incorrect.



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by robyn
OP -- there are plenty of threads on here that discuss Ron Paul and his positions.

Call me paranoid but this feels like data mining. All in a days work I guess.

Pardon me if I'm incorrect.


Most certainly you are forgiven for that, not data mining at all, but as you said there are countless threads on the issue, way too many of them die very early into partisan mudslinging and personal attacks. I just wanted to try and collect the info here for myself instead of treading through some other mudladen threads. I could easily make my own here !

and I wont call you paranoid, it will only make you more paranoid!



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