posted on Aug, 29 2013 @ 07:20 AM
Okay, Time for a very long-time lurker to say his piece.
This is going to be a semi-rambling post covering a few things, bear with me (or not),
Good evening all, this is my favorite speculative "fun" topic, and the one that brings out quality ideas and information from both the "radical
free-thinker" types and the "well educated, versed in archaeological history" types.. when these two camps merge, its can be a beautiful thing.
I'm fond of seeing the "closed skeptic minds" throws some theories of their own into the mix (as rarely as that happens), as much as I like my
current theories to be shaken up whenever some bit of evidence comes to light or rings true to me (an example from this thread was the "there is
nothing really strange about the frozen mammoths in Antarctica" post... some of that is throws a different light on things and i had not seen that
Now, being a long time lurker, I also have seen the ugly side to forums like ATS, places that i would have -thought- been bastions of alternative or
independent speech. But im seeing more and more of a following trend:
- its not the outright "Skeptics" that pose so much of a headache and barrier for ideas to be thrown around, its the "wanna-be-professors" as
Shadow herder so eloquently put them.. members that spend time, posts and energy with nothing but scorn not over what has been said, but ultimately
the way that it has been expressed and .. (even more so as the thread goes on).. literally against every single thing that person will post from that
I have been shocked at the vitriol, scorn, and rabid energetic efforts some people around here take to tear some ideas down.
Is is -really- necessary?
lets take blokula here? you see FEEL his enthusiasm, you see him speculatiing...you see a comaraderie as people share their enthusiasm for the
subject.. and i smile as some interesting titbits people throw in and things that and thought processes that i recognise. people also quite fairly
list where the evidence doesnt add up.. .but the lack of evidence - could- be explained too.
THEN... along comes someone like Hanslune... who doesnt like what he sees.. so he disagrees.. and then he gets irritated.. so then its time to argure
every single point.... long past when its obvious the thread is derailed and his mission to embarass and discriedit the OP has succeeded.
was it worth it?
even more amusingly predictable is when someone much more open minded like Shadow herder comes along and applies the same critique.. then all of a
sudden its "harrassment" or its "you're just arguing for the sake of it".
I am going to say it straight up:
ATS is wonderfully proud of its ability to spot a fraudster, and to point out flawed evidence... but that "attack at all costs" attitude it is also
the source of ALL the nastiest vitriol, personal attacks, arrogant close mindedness and outright hostility on these forums. Then It dawned on me.
Its fear that someone who -isnt- as intelligent as me could possibly hold such an opinion.
its fear that after all my research and skeptisim that deep down i could be -wrong-
its fear that they cant admit they are skeptics.. they are just "educated in the facts".
and its fear that someone "not with the same beliefs as me" could be right.
ts easy to ridicule Blokula's use of Edgar Cayce's prophecies as a source.... do you feel better? did you open your mind to one second of anything
else he said? or did you engage in a 85 page mission to prove you right?
Its so hard to eloquently pin down.. but its one thing to offer an alternative suggestion or two provide a credible dismissal... but if the thread is
-that- horrific to you ... why the hell hang around and waste your time?
I saw a thread start with a topic that i enjoyed, with interesting ideas and commonalities thrown about.. I knew where I disagreed on some people
regarding the Piri reis map.. but that's semantics and personal opinion, I like the flow of ideas.
..then saw 60 pages of "lets pick on the OP , he is an easy target for my ego and need to character assassinate him".
Thank you shadow herder for at least trying to point out the flaws in a few rabid posters around here.. and Blocula, you have a good heart I can feel
it, I get you dude, the fact that you put up with all of that and just did not tell them to "get F**** is incredible.
I feel sorry, for the closed minded cloaked in a protective guise of "education".
Few of them started that way.