Those We Call Cavemen Were All That Remained Of Humanity After The Last Time We Destroyed Ourselves

the earth is...4,500,000,000 years old! and i'm suppose to believe tptb's force fed lies that say humans have only reached any kind of advanced state for the past 5 or 10 thousand years? come on...i don't think so!

Originally posted by blocula
the earth is...4,500,000,000 years old! and i'm suppose to believe tptb's force fed lies that say humans have only reached any kind of advanced state for the past 5 or 10 thousand years? come on...i don't think so!

I wouldnt say it was TPTB but more the lack of evidence but there is that old saying "the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence".

I find it interesting that the older the things are that we find the deeper they are. More so in the West. They are finding 'coal forests' all over the world dating back around 300 million years.

Scientists also point out that the discovered imprints of trees are the second generation of plants on the planet, after 310 million years ago the Earth came from one of the largest glacial periods when the glaciers on the planet reached today in the tropics.

Read more: scienceray.com...

i believe that we have risen and fallen many times.it's almost like some kind of inevitable cycle that we have to endure.that we always manage to inflict upon ourselves and or it could be that our falling over and over is being caused by some unknown destructive cosmic cycle.maybe caused by the sun itself, as it tows us through the galactic center,again and again.invading aliens cannot be ruled out as a cause either and the destruction of atlantis was just one of those times we were mostly wiped out.we very well may have existed in an advanced state and then were destroyed, millions of years ago,or even ten million or a hundred million...

Originally posted by blocula
the earth is...4,500,000,000 years old! and i'm suppose to believe tptb's force fed lies that say humans have only reached any kind of advanced state for the past 5 or 10 thousand years? come on...i don't think so!

Wow another authoriative statement of personal incredulity.....so tell us blocula what SHOULD the time line look like? Your majesty doesn't like the one we have so what should it be?

Are your working on that list of reasons you believe the London Hammer is 500,000 years old?

Originally posted by Hanslune
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Wow another authoriative statement of personal incredulity.....so tell us blocula what SHOULD the time line look like? Your majesty doesn't like the one we have so what should it be?

Are your working on that list of reasons you believe the London Hammer is 500,000 years old?

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thread killer.....lol

It was an interesting time between 30,000 b.c to 8000 b.c. The earth really changed and according to geological records there have been humans, human like beings that lived through it. Its too bad that we didnt keep record back in those days because those stories would of been fascinating.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
BTW, your link confirms what I said.

No, it confirms nothing you said because, as you pointed out, it's not in the time frame you mentioned,.

I noticed that you didn't mention the other link.

I wonder why?
Not really.

Harte

thread killer.....lol

It was an interesting time between 30,000 b.c to 8000 b.c. The earth really changed and according to geological records there have been humans, human like beings that lived through it. Its too bad that we didnt keep record back in those days because those stories would of been fascinating
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some very important records and warnings for the future "us" were kept and placed beneath the sphinx.but whattaya know...no ones allowed to dig there and it probably does'nt matter any more anyways.surely that "knowledge" has already been dug up,carted away and hidden by tptb....

so now they know what future cycle of disaster is headed our way and they are well prepared for it with all their underground blast proof bunkers and the rest of us will be treated as we always were...as expendable commodities...

and with our blood sweat and brokenback extorted tax money.they have built for themselves places like this en.wikipedia.org... just imagine what they have that we don't know about...

Originally posted by blocula
thread killer.....lol

It was an interesting time between 30,000 b.c to 8000 b.c. The earth really changed and according to geological records there have been humans, human like beings that lived through it. Its too bad that we didnt keep record back in those days because those stories would of been fascinating

Well we agree it was an interesting time for humans. We hadn't invented writing yet, but we did have art and some of the culture is reflected back to us in it - plus the archaeological record as we moved from hunting and gathering to horticulture and agriculture leaves us a partial picture of these people.

some very important records and warnings for the future "us" were kept and placed beneath the sphinx.but whattaya know...no ones allowed to dig there and it probably does'nt matter any more anyways.surely that "knowledge" has already been dug up,carted away and hidden by tptb....

Unfortunately that appears to be stuff 'made up' by another person and not supported by any scientific data. How exactly do you 'dig' limestone? It has been investigated a number of times and guess what no 'records'. I know that this doesn't make sense to you but in the real world psychics are considered valid sources of information.

so now they know what future cycle of disaster is headed our way and they are well prepared for it with all their underground blast proof bunkers and the rest of us will be treated as we always were...as expendable commodities...

You mean you are speculating that what you were told to believe by another person who made up stuff is true

and with our blood sweat and brokenback extorted tax money.they have built for themselves places like this en.wikipedia.org... just imagine what they have that we don't know about...]

Lots of people work there why don't you just ask them? LOL

Here are the questions you are dodging:

1. So tell us blocula what SHOULD the time line look like? You doesn't like the one we have so what should it be?

2. Are your working on that list of reasons you believe the London Hammer is 500,000 years old?

Lets see how long a list of dodged questions we can get?

Hanslune...concerning this "scientific data" that you speak of...95% of any scientific data, comes from scientists and archeologists and those scientists and archeologists are funded and payed by the state and government. who have a pre-arranged agenda, that ridicules, denies and tosses aside any evidence that goes against their version of our ancient history, which is a version filled with lies and grand deceptions...

so any "scientific data" that shows proof and supports the existence of ancient and advanced civilizations that once flourished. wether they existed 10 thousand or 10 million years ago and then were destroyed and are now all but forgotten...from tptb's perspective and from their mouths, this hidden information and facts will never see the verbal light of day...they wont admit it to us...they always have lied to the public and they still do, so why shoud i believe what they say about our ancient history...

these disasters arrive in cycles...both natural and self inflicted...something terrible is going to happen to humanity...again...and tptb know it...and they are prepared for it...but they won't tell us...they won't even warn us...because we are their expendable commodities...

Originally posted by blocula
www.bibliotecapleyades.net... i believe that human civilizations on earth have risen and fallen over and over again down through the ages. these now forgotten civilizations seem erased because of time,erosion,supression of information by the mainstream and the powers that be, who seek delusional refuge in knowing that their people are led astray from the truth and are trained to think and live half asleep. wandering lost in a fallen world of greed and blind denial of the fact that we've done this all before. we reach a point where we cant handle our own technology anymore and we self destruct. we recreate our own monsters again and again,they rise up and destroy their creators. atlantis is a good example of what i am saying and this self inflicted disaster is about to happen to us again.the twentieth century,a century of supposed progress and technological marvel is actually a century of neverending war,genocide and destruction on a scale far worse than all other periods in history combined. we have refined the demented art of killing off nature and eachother. if just five or ten nuclear power plants were to reach critical mass,break open and release their radioactive contents simultaneously,we would be in a horrible situation.the hellish risks that these things pose far outweigh their benefits and they should have never received the green light at all. we are being driven fast,without brakes,down a one way road of apocalyptic destiny that will result in our destruction once again...

edit on 10/5/2011 by tothetenthpower because: Thread name changed upon request

Cheers man! This is EXACTLY the same theory I subscribe to! The Ancient Alien theorists almost have it right, but it was not aliens it was a previous incarnation of ancient humans!

Originally posted by blocula
Hanslune...concerning this "scientific data" that you speak of...95% of any scientific data, comes from scientists and archeologists and those scientists and archeologists are funded and payed by the state and government. who have a pre-arranged agenda, that ridicules, denies and tosses aside any evidence that goes against their version of our ancient history, which is a version filled with lies and grand deceptions...

So all the archaeologists and other related scientists are 'in on it', LOL strange no one I know seems to be aware of it. So what about the other 5% ---oh wait the entire world is controlled. What is 'there version', you do know that different countries on this planet have different views of ancient history. I can assure you that the Saudis teach a very different version from Sweden - so why is it different if everything is controlled?

When did this control begin?

so any "scientific data" that shows proof and supports the existence of ancient and advanced civilizations that once flourished. wether they existed 10 thousand or 10 million years ago and then were destroyed and are now all but forgotten...from tptb's perspective and from their mouths, this hidden information and facts will never see the verbal light of day...they wont admit it to us...they always have lied to the public and they still do, so why shoud i believe what they say about our ancient history...

How odd so why do we know about Sumer and the Minoans? Why do we know about the Hobbit and Denisova -why do we know about Catalhuyuk and Gobekli Tepe? Why do we know about Jomon pottery from 12k+

these disasters arrive in cycles.

How do we know about those.......wait for it.....those evil controlled scientists.....LOL

..both natural and self inflicted...something terrible is going to happen to humanity...again...and tptb know it...and they are prepared for it...but they won't tell us...they won't even warn us...because we are their expendable commodities...

Doom and gloom, belief in a massive world wide multi-generational conspiracy that has no dissenters and leaves no evidence and no one - except the conspracy believer can see it - and who allow (in your world view) people to spread information on it. In your world why was Cayce allowed to live?

Maybe the evidence doesn't exist and you are mistaken and a tad paranoid?

The unanswered questions:

1. So tell us blocula what SHOULD the time line look like? You doesn't like the one we have so what should it be?

2. Are your working on that list of reasons you believe the London Hammer is 500,000 years old?

3. When did the world controlling conspiracy begin? Why did 'they' allow religion to be weakened in the 19th century?

4. Why did 'they' allow (in your world view only) Cayce to 'spill the beans'?

5. Why did they build the internet?


Howdy TopherWayne

Well that is he question - if there was such a civilization why did it leave no evidence - because the existing civilizations, present and past left massive archaeological footprints

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So basically, according to you, a nation becomes bad the second it turns secular instead of being god worshippers and spiritual people? I hope you realize the exact opposite is probably closer to the truth given how horrible theocracies are

Originally posted by blocula
During man's history, numerous civilizations have been organized, and patterns of cyclical development have frequently occurred. Spengler and Toynbee, among others, have commented, and have traced these stages of development. Development has often started with a small number, possessing a pioneer spirit, possessing a stout faith, and possessing a willingness to migrate if necessary. A small group founded what grew into a civilization. Following the founding stage was that of severe test and trial, tests of foreign powers and trials of nature. The testing tended to refine austere principles into the society. Following survival in the early tests was normally a period of rapid economic and political growth.

Following the period of economic and political growth (and population growth) came a golden age of stability and cultural expansion. Cultural expansion took many forms among the arts. As peace and prosperity continued, the older, austere virtues of faith, morality, sacrifice and patriotism no longer continued to be essential; they no longer continued to be virtues.

Under the protective cover or climate of a successful civilization, hedonism became increasingly dominant.6 Anti-spiritual ethics emerged and grew at the expense of the earlier views and virtues. Hedonism became first prominent, secondly dominant, and finally overbearing. The population mostly chose the way of "the flesh" and not the way of "the spirit." Civilization became mostly depraved; it collapsed, due partly to a push from without, but mostly from internal moral and spiritual rotting.

Spengler concluded that the majority of civilizations had a cycle of 400 to 450 years, approximately 12 generations. He thought that it took about that long for the lowest values of a society to rise to the top in prominence, something like a period of 12 or so hours which are necessary for slag to rise to the top in a blast furnace. Such may be a commentary on collective human nature.

Just a note blocula you took this chunk of information from this site without citing it or placing it in quotations. It isn't your writing

What blocula attempts to pawn off as his own writing It's about 3/4 of the way down

Originally posted by blocula
Some 5,000 years ago,up to 80 percent of the world’s population may have perished, making this the single most lethal event in history...

Bruce Masse, an enviornmental archeologist, at Los Alamos National laboratory... believes that he has uncovered evidence that a gigantic comet crashed into the Indian Ocean several thousand years ago and nearly wiped out all life on the planet. What’s more, he thinks that clues about the catastrophe are hiding in plain sight, embedded in the creation stories of cultural groups around the world. His hypothesis depends on a major reinterpretation of many different mythologies and raises questions about how frequently major asteroid impacts occur. What scientists know about such collisions is based mainly on a limited survey of craters around the world and on the moon. Only 185 craters on Earth have been identified, and almost all are on dry land, leaving largely unexamined the 70 percent of the planet covered by water. Even among those on dry land, many of the craters have been recognized only recently. It is possible that Earth has been a target of more meteors and comets than scientists have suspected.

Masse’s biggest idea is that some 5,000 years ago, a 3-mile-wide ball of rock and ice swung around the sun and smashed into the ocean off the coast of Madagascar. The ensuing cataclysm sent a series of 600-foot-high tsunamis crashing against the world’s coastlines and injected plumes of superheated water vapor and aerosol particulates into the atmosphere. Within hours, the infusion of heat and moisture blasted its way into jet streams and spawned superhurricanes that pummeled the other side of the planet. For about a week, material ejected into the atmosphere plunged the world into darkness. All told, up to 80 percent of the world’s population may have perished, making it the single most lethal event in history.

Why, then, don’t we know about it? Masse contends that we do. Almost every culture has a legend about a great flood, and—with a little reading between the lines—many of them mention something like a comet on a collision course with Earth just before the disaster. The Bible describes a deluge for 40 days and 40 nights that created a flood so great that Noah was stuck in his ark for two weeks until the water subsided. In the Gilgamesh Epic, the hero of Mesopotamia saw a pillar of black smoke on the horizon before the sky went dark for a week. Afterward, a cyclone pummeled the Fertile Crescent and caused a massive flood. Myths recounted in indigenous South American cultures also tell of a great flood.

“These stories are all exactly what you would expect from the survivors of a celestial impact,” Masse says, leafing through 2,000-year-old drawings by Chinese astronomers that show comets of all shapes and sizes. “When a comet rounds the sun, oftentimes its tail is still being blown forward by the solar winds so that it actually precedes it. That is why so many descriptions of comets in mythology mention that they are wearing horns.” In India, he notes, a celestial fish described as “bright as a moonbeam,” with a horn on its head, warned of an epic flood that brought on a new age of man.

Among 175 flood myths, Masse found two of particular interest. A Hindu myth describes an alignment of the five bright planets that has happened only once in the last 5,000 years, according to computer simulations, and a Chinese story mentions that the great flood occurred at the end of the reign of Empress Nu Wa. Cross-checking historical records with astronomical data, Masse came up with a date for his event: May 10, 2807 B.C.

You took this material, uncited and unquoted from this site:

More dishonesty from blocula

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Despite your intellectual dishonesty you will note this contradicts your vision of a world wide macro conspiracy. Its a scientists expounding a 'forbidden' idea in a mainstream magazine. The facts are true the interpretation of this is open to debate.

It should be noted that such a strike is known to have occurred and counter to your arguments left a large amount of debris, however his claim of a 80% death rate is not supported by the evidence. The Sumerian, Egyptian and Harappa civilization didn't stop at this point, they continued just fine and even recorded the event.

If you are so bored and unconvinced by your own theory and cannot be bothered to put up your own defense but instead plagarize other materials- why bother? eh?

Originally posted by MrXYZ
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So basically, according to you, a nation becomes bad the second it turns secular instead of being god worshippers and spiritual people? I hope you realize the exact opposite is probably closer to the truth given how horrible theocracies are

Howdy MrXYZ

I would agree with you counties are much better once they get rid of of god and goddesses.

blocula has also attacked organized religion, his ideas are all over the place.


You related to Messr XYZ of American history?

en.wikipedia.org...

i'm not an expert threader and i never claimed it ^^^ or anything as my own...did i say i wrote that?...no..it's just information.instead of putting up the link,i put up what you would find and read in the link...whats the difference?...

i have posted about 30 links worth of evidence in this thread. that shows we destroyed ourselves or were destroyed by an outside agent and more than once,a long time ago.how many of those 30 links have you actually read through? before you say we were not mostly destroyed in the distant past...

hanslune,instead delivering cheap shots and accusations.how about commenting on the fact that 80% of humanity may have been wiped out by a comet slamming into the indian ocean around 5,000 years ago...
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"blocula has also attacked organized religion, his ideas are all over the place"

are you talking about the same organized religions who in the past,used torture, started many wars,demonized women and burnt little kids at the stake?...they deserve a good attack every so often...

Originally posted by blocula
i'm not an expert threader and i never claimed it ^^^ or anything as my own...did i say i wrote that?...no..it's just information.instead of putting up the link,i put up what you would find and read in the link...whats the difference?...

I'm sorry blocula but that is perfectly worthless excuse - you knew exactly what you were doing - you were caught -and you violated forum rules. I'd suggest apologing and asking a mod to correct your attempt at plagarism. Not an expert huh after nearly 2,000 posts, LOL, LOL, LOL not a very good liar are you blocula?

i have posted about 30 links worth of evidence in this thread. that shows we destroyed ourselves or were destroyed by an outside agent and more than once,a long time ago.how many of those 30 links have you actually read through? before you say we were not mostly destroyed in the distant past...

No you posted links to sites that were full of nonsense, that contradicted what your points were, didn't say what you thought they said and in most cases you don't even know what they say. Believing in conspiracy theories is not a cure for gullibility. Again lay out the facts in the 500 million year old hammer claim and why you believe them? Of course you won't because in reality you don't know what you are talking about. As to your reply above I really don't know how to tell you this but civilization didn't end when the ND occurred.....well did it?

hanslune,instead delivering cheap shots and accusations.how about commenting on the fact that 80% of humanity may have been wiped out by a comet slamming into the indian ocean around 5,000 years ago...

...'cheap shot'....your definition of you being caught plagarizing and now lying about it. I don't answer your questions until you answer mine ....you got that sonny? LOL Oh and to make it absolutely clear to you - you were posting others peoples work as your own....

are you talking about the same organized religions who in the past,used torture, started many wars,demonized women and burnt little kids at the stake?...they deserve a good attack every so often

I have no use for organized religion but I was pointing out the other poster that you rant against everything


The unanswered questions:

1. So tell us blocula what SHOULD the time line look like? You doesn't like the one we have so what should it be?

2. Are your working on that list of reasons you believe the London Hammer is 500,000 years old?

3. When did the world controlling conspiracy begin? Why did 'they' allow religion to be weakened in the 19th century?

4. Why did 'they' allow (in your world view only) Cayce to 'spill the beans'?

5. Why did they build the internet?

6. Why do you post other people's work as your own?

plagiarizing!?!?!?!?...are you going on your 5th day without sleep? or just trying to make me laugh?

putting up a link,is the same thing as copying and pasting a part of that link...how is it not?

if you make $$$ off of somone elses writing its plagiarizing...

or pass it off as a term paper in school,maybe?

read through some of my threads and their opening paragraphs,i hardly need to copy anyone elses writing,unless it's for "information" pertaining to the thread...just like putting up a link that leads to someone elses writing...

maybe next you can bring up the preferred method of cooking onions in madagascar...and steer us all a little further away from the reality of this thread...

"we are going to be mostly annihilated in the near future,again and tptb know its going to happen and the sheeple are too posessed by materialism to care!

the veneer of denial that most people sheild themselves from reality behind...consistently blows my mind away.