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Originally posted by JennaDarling
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by JennaDarling
So you would prefer the incompetence of the companies holding your infomation not be exposed... and things to carry on as business as usual...
I would prefer anon leave my private data alone, if they want to use me as a pawn peice in their war, If I ever find out who they are, I report them. Simple.
If they leave me out of it, I have nothing to report.
You remind me of pirates that try to justifty their actions, which is simply theft, stealing, with ideology.
It is nothing but an excuse.
edit on 15-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by thruthseek3r
reply to post by JennaDarling
Actually I am forcing nobody to adhere to what I am currently saying. You have your opinion, I have mine and that's ok. The only thing I am trying to explain to you is that maybe it sounds ridiculous to your hears but I believe that having social network wiped out wouldn't be such a bad thing. I think it is a bad habit that serves nothing else than satisfying the human personal curiosity in sacrifice of valudata to the Powers That Be. One you will understand what I am talking about and will realize that these social network were for a pure benefit of the elite and from the beginning.
Good luck with social networking man ,
Thruthseek3r
Originally posted by thruthseek3r
reply to post by JennaDarling
No blame, no shame so please just calm down. You seems to get angry by what I am telling you aren't you? The thing is I am trying to explain my view. I do not really care what you do about what I say because in the end I do not consider that I have the absolute truth, ain't no such thing as this at all. The only thing is I am a (let's call it a fan of conspiracy theories) and I do believe the Facebook is one, as so many have been in history and so many right now, etc. I am only telling you that in my opinion social networks have cons than pros (personal of course) so it wouldn't bother me if it were to be gone.
Sadly, my friend, many of the masses consider this website as toy with no harm done them (big corporations and C.I.A. not involved it is IMPOSSIBLE!!! (in their mind of course) ) and life is great ... Well these people simply do not recognize the evidence behind the machine which is the website and further than that, they will deny it to their last breath because of pride and because they do not want to quit for whatever reason it would be (be it addiction, many friends, the games, etc).
If you are aware of all this, with all the respect that I have for all ATSers here,then good I consider my job is done. No meant to harm nor project negativity inside your mind, only inform you factually and the less biased as possible, this what I am up to .
Thruthseek3r
Get your act together, or don't do it at all. Again, leave the common people out of it. I have seen hacker wars before, all ideology as a flag of convience, when the crunch comes, they are just thieves and vandals and rioters. I find it sick they "hijack" ideology of privacy and more that people in other countries have DIED FOR, yet they use that as a flag of convience. I can handle my own privacy, I don't need anon to "liberate" me.
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by JennaDarling
Get your act together, or don't do it at all. Again, leave the common people out of it. I have seen hacker wars before, all ideology as a flag of convience, when the crunch comes, they are just thieves and vandals and rioters. I find it sick they "hijack" ideology of privacy and more that people in other countries have DIED FOR, yet they use that as a flag of convience. I can handle my own privacy, I don't need anon to "liberate" me.
These faceless corporations exist only because of the economic support of the common people. By revealing their methods of operation and damaging consumer confidence in them you are making them sit up and listen.
If we keep doing things the same old ways we will always live in the same old world, until we do not have a world to live in...
You cannot handle your own privacy if you could your details would not have been posted online. You gave your trust to a company to do this and they failed.
Maybe instead of blaming Anon you should blame the American Government, it is them that first used credit card companies as a cyber wepon in weak attempt to to strangle Wikileaks. If you can understand that companies like Mastercard and Visa are wepons you should be able to understand why they have now become a target...
post by JennaDarling
I expect governments to mine that data, otherwise what kind of governments would they be.
Nothing that happened in the UK in the last week was the fault of an "oppressive system of government" - it was about certain sections of society simply not giving a damn, and going out to get what they could.
A riot is the language of the unheard - Matin L King...
And if "anonymous" (little a) succeeds in provoking more riots in the UK by encouraging similar to happen again on the 15th October, when the scum crawl back out of the rocks they have been hiding under to answer this "call to arms" and usurp another peaceful protest then who's hands will the potential blood and cost of the clean up be on?
Umm. I feel so inspired. I feel like saying... this..... For christs sake. Shut up. Go back to playing WOW.
Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders and millions have been killed because of this obedience. Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves and the grand thieves are running the country. That’s our problem."
Originally posted by purplemer
Tell me have ever lived on a mega council estate in London. Have you ever worked in an inner city school . Have you got any idea about your tapping about...
This is not about peeps not giving a dam. It is about people with no hope being pushed too far...
The areas were peeps have nothing. Little education, no job prospects, no future and in many cases constant harasment from the police.
If you mix rich and poor peeps together and you have this level of disparity in wealth this is going to happen.
They are kids, kids with little future they can see for themselves.
The problem is a society which values products and profit over people, and possesions over humanity.
If peeps cared they would do something about it. Become a mentor, or a youth worker. You dont know what this kids go through until you walk a mile in their shoes. Or else we can call them looters and criminals because in doing so you dont have to address these issues...
Property is always replaceable, human life is not..!
Refrain from calling Anon scum, it is verging hate speech, something not tolerated on ATS, There are many Anon that use this site and such speech is demeaning..
Umm. I feel so inspired. I feel like saying... this..... For christs sake. Shut up. Go back to playing WOW.
Further ATS prides itself on manners.. Telling peeps to shut up is not really in remit is it now.. Nor is making blasphemous statements..
Maybe the peep that made the video is a wow player and so what.. peeps do all sorts of different things on the internet some make videos, some dox, some ddos, some are mods it takes all sorts really... There is no need to belittle people..
People protest with petitions, peaceful marches, placards, slogans and making points in a civilised manner. You don't protest against a government by murdering innocents, burning down peoples homes and nicking bottles of wine, trainers and anything you can get your hands on.
Originally posted by hadriana
Listen, all the personal stuff that's been stolen and released - it was really sitting there in an open box with the lid wide open.
It was probably best it was stolen, because at least then it becomes public knowledge. The alternative was all those people using their sony playstation passwords on their bank accounts and paypal accounts wondering how they got hacked and never bothering to change it anywhere else.
Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by neformore
Thanks for being the spokesman of the whole country.
it means a lot. Not only are you speaking for me (and saving me the hassle of typing my own words) but you're speaking for my friends, my family, my neighbours, my community, my town, my county and my country.
All hail Neformore.
And as another member said : No need to belittle people. I bet it's nice being a mod and having the power to ban / remove posts / insult people.
You claim to be British, but your attitude stinks of ignorance.
You may claim there's no poverty, but i've seen it. You may claim there's no strife or trouble, but i've seen it.
People REALLY DO need to rise against the powers that manipulate us. We live in a society ruled by class, corporations and distraction.
A person who is interested in technology, especially computing and new media. Geeks are adept with computers, and use the term hacker in a positive way, though not all are hackers themselves.