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Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Greatest I am
1. Is it moral for either God or man to sit and do nothing, or even hold back, life saving measures from a dying child?
God, doesn't hold back life saving measures for anyone, though the man behind this child may have due to his lack of understanding of the bible. Or having the bible preached to him...
You say obviously no yet that is exactly what god did with A & E.
He hid the tree of life away.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
Whoever that god was, in chapter two and three, there must be something wrong with him, otherwise why was chapter one written? To fix the problem that the earlier story presented. We don't know the identity of that god, since obviously someone went through the book and changed to name to someone who was introduced much later, as in the story of Moses and Yahweh.
So I think it would be good to judge that god and it may have been the original point of the book, we don't know.
One clue would be the name they ascribed to the character in chapter 2 and 3 matches another murderous god-like character, the one who killed a multitude of Egyptians and then the Moabites and the Canaanites.
In the Book of Exodus, the angel tells Moses that he appeared to the Patriarchs as the Most High God, and not as Yahweh, so there was an example of there being a higher God who did intervene in specialized cases.
Job challenged the God of this World and took his case to a higher authority and won.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by gabby2011
I really detest the answer that we don't know how God thinks, therefore we should just accept his almighty wisdom on everything. What a load of malarky.
Wow, but yet we expect our own children to listen and obey us even though they don't fully grasp the reasoning behind our rules and methodologies.
Well then you should trust Jesus when he says you are of your father who was a murderer and a liar from the beginning, and when Jesus talked about the God of this world.
I trust Jesus Christ and i'll just let this matter go its own way.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
I'm sorry, you read a different Genesis than i did. The Book of Genesis i read clearly stated that by adam and eve eating from the forbidden tree of knowledge caused them to die, not God himself. When they sinned, it clung to them henceforth and any children they bore was born into that sin and their sons and daughters down the line. To keep adam and eve from living an eternity corrupted, he out a flaming sword at the gate to the garden of Eden to keep them away from the tree of life, so they would not remain corrupted forever after eating from the tree of knowledge.
God hasnt had an active role in this world since he sent Jesus, nor after because this world belongs to Satan, HE is the God of this earth/air. You pass judgement on a being that you know next to nothing about, and by the measure you judge others, shall be the same measure used to judge you. You should study your bible more and ask the Holy Spirit to help you decipher it, because you are using your own HUMAN rationality and not the spirit of truth.edit on 27-8-2011 by lonewolf19792000 because: (no reason given)