I Saw Something I Wish I Had Never Seen

Originally posted by SmokeyDawn
In one way it's a GOOD thing that these videos can be seen online because otherwise
people would refuse to believe that this...and WORSE!!...happens all the time in our
world!

That's my opinion too.

I watched the video and there was nothing in it that suprised me. The people who did this were obviously full of hatred towards the Russians. The downside to this video is that it generated even more hatred in some. It makes them want to kill those in the video. Which would generate even more hatred and so on and so on...

For peace to actually happen on this planet, someone, somewhere has to stand up and say "I won't kill anymore". But once killing starts, it generates so much hate that it's very hard to stop.

reply to post by kro32


I guess the thing for me is the slow, deliberate nature of murdering six men, all as they plead - one tries to run, it is heart breaking. I have seen some palastinian/israeli stuff - some Iraq and Afghan stuff - mostly involved people blown up - this just is so personal...any thoughts on legality of this vs porn?

CJ

This is war, no honor, no respect, no law, no dignity, no nothing,....anything goes.
When the andrenaline/dominating primal nature kick in.....nobody know how far one would go.
I'm not really affected by the images from the clip.....rather I am saddened by the attitude of our fellow human
Imagine if harakiri (seppuku) being filmed and uploaded onto the Internet today.....it would put Mid-East countries beheading tradition at shame.

reply to post by kro32



Agreed.
I was asking myself the same while watching it.
Would have rather got shot then my head removed.
Have seen worse though. I had the same reaction as OP the first video I saw that was like this.

reply to post by Sly1one


I agree that there should be freedom of the press and that these videos should be available to those who wish to see them - in some context - I can't imagine rape/murder videos from soldiers being shown on liveleak. Clearly some moral ground has been established.

CJ

reply to post by juleol


I agree. There is something so unhuman about it. Perhaps we are this desensitized.

CJ

OP you should watch A Serbian Film or just read about it. That would really raise your eyebrows. I sort of want to see it but I think it would really bug me because of children. I can't stand seeing children or animals hurt. I know it's weird I can watch anything else but I get angry as HELL if I see someone hit a dog.

reply to post by ColoradoJens


I don't think we are desensitized but alot of people here understand the brutality of what actually occurs in conflicts like this and one video is just the same as the other. Wars are not like video games or movies, they can make normal people do unnatural things. I don't know the details of this but I imagine it could easily have been the killers laying on the ground receiving the same treatment from those that were killed. For all we know those that were murderered have commited the same attrocities.

To be honest I get more disgusted by watching slaughterhouse video than this stuff anymore.

Originally posted by Heartisblack
I saw it..........boring, no worse then a horror movie. Ever seen final destination ? One of those deals, I need to get something to eat and OP just for your information, this disturbing you is laughable. I've seen pictures on the X 4chan boards of skinned corpses. I'll be sleeping easy tonight, thank you OP. You fulfilled my horror craving.

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They say that having no empathy towards a victim is a sign of something.. What was it now...

*CoughPsychopathicCough*..

reply to post by amazing


That is what got me to...humans pleading for their lives, murdered friends around them. Body parts, people shot, people blown up with explosives, etc is not as bad as this. Do you believe this should be censored as pornography is? Thanks!

CJ

Just hearing "Allah Akbar" drives me up the fricken wall. Anybody else?

I just can't bring myself to sympathize with anyone who rattles off "God is great" over and over when they are doing the most ungodly things imaginable.

Same reason I just can't bring myself to support those Libyan rebels.

It's like that movie about the crusades. "GOD WILLS IT!"

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by ColoradoJens

 

3 guys one hammer is probably worse but idk. I think I have enough of this crap in my head and don't really want to keep adding to it. Don't really want to see yours but I may. If I do I'll comment on it.

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3g1h however, you have to wonder if he was conscious after having his face caved in with the hammer, before they took to work in his skull with the skrewdriver. That would be pure horror.

But a few stick in my head far worse than this one in the OP.

Originally posted by Domo1
OP you should watch A Serbian Film or just read about it. That would really raise your eyebrows. I sort of want to see it but I think it would really bug me because of children. I can't stand seeing children or animals hurt. I know it's weird I can watch anything else but I get angry as HELL if I see someone hit a dog.

I have seen a few Serb atrocity docus...how about the war-boys from Liberia? Charles Taylors boys? Eating hearts from a captured general...the Congo vids? Those people are insane. I listed a few vids in my OP ie: burning witches alive narco torture etc..all are sick; should there be an "R" rating on them? Anything so my 8 year old doesn't somehow type in something by accident and see this? Thanks for the dialog!

CJ

If those people do not repent of their sins and become saved, they will pay big time when that eastern sky splits and our Lord and Savior destroys them with the brightness of His coming. I pray every single day that Jesus returns to end all of this. There is nothing more disturbing than to see a human being die like that. Any person who takes the life of a fellow-human being in cold blood like that is not a human. They are a demon-possessed monster who does not have the light of our Lord in their hearts. Jesus told us right before the very end, that the world was going to be like this. Time is very short, and I pray that the Holy Spirit touches everybody's hearts, causing them to give their life over to Jesus.

Please, people. Turn your lives and hearts over to Christ. Please don't miss out on eternal joy. Here is a webpage that I pray you are blessed with: www.remnantofgod.org...

clearly fake! just look at the damn thing... its articulated movies mannequins! RC operated, with facial expressions. Look carefully! wake up dude and dont be fool by illusions my friends... check out how the last soldier that dies move in a weird side roll, just after the "terrorist"(lol) lets him go.

If these videos are illegal to upload and decency laws prevent it, how will we ever know that these things are happening? Such things do make these sites money, yes, but they also let the rest of us know and raise awareness of such atrocity. Reality is an ugly, ugly affair, and sometimes we need things like this to make us understand that our comfy little bubble is a blessing and to be grateful for it.

reply to post by ColoradoJens


Serbian Film is just a movie but if you read the synopsis I'm fairly sure you will be horrified. It's pretty nasty and it is surprising to me that you can just go rent it. I agree with it being legal to watch, just surprised stores stock it.



Wikipedia

reply to post by Heartisblack


Man... you are aware there are far better forums for gore than 4chan. ?

Occasionally a dead woman or a dead man? Lol

It's against the T&C to post gore, but just google ogrish forums...

reply to post by klenker


I thought ogrish forums got shut down. Will have to go see.

4chan isn't bad at all, you're right. Every once in awhile maybe a disturbing .gif thread but that's about it.

Edit to add: It is still there though it looks like it's gone through some changes since I last saw it.

reply to post by Domo1


I thought you were refering to serb atrocity films, of which there are a few. That looks like a movie I may skip. I used to love horror films and still do to a degree; some of the push the limits stuff I can't go for anymore.

CJ