All members of the super congress represent states with the biggest military contracts

So you know what that means... say bye bye to medicare/medicaid/social security/unemployment, etc... and say hello to at least NO CUTS in the military budget... if not MORE MONEY in the war budget...

'Doomsday' defense cuts loom large for select 12

For the dozen lawmakers tasked with producing a deficit-cutting plan, the threatened "doomsday" defense cuts hit close to home.

The six Republicans and six Democrats represent states where the biggest military contractors — Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics Corp., Raytheon Co. and Boeing Co. — build missiles, aircraft, jet fighters and tanks while employing tens of thousands of workers.

So you know they won't cut squat in what really deserves to be cut... the military.

reply to post by Vitchilo


You do know that the rest of Congress has to pass whatever they propose so the members with alot of people relying on these programs will vote no.

What's the problem?

reply to post by Vitchilo

Thanks Vitch.
We will see where their priorities lie and connect the dots.

We were warned this would happen if the war machine gained too much power. And like idiots we didn't listen.

Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by Vitchilo

 

You do know that the rest of Congress has to pass whatever they propose so the members with alot of people relying on these programs will vote no.

What's the problem?

If super congress cuts something, it will be medicare/medicaid/social security... and of course it won't pass senate/house... and if it doesn't pass house/senate... there will be automatic cuts of 1.5 trillion of medicare/medicaid/social security... so either way, the warmongers win.

Super congress should be abolished.

reply to post by Vitchilo


If it doesn't pass than they will just see what it will take to pass it and adjust their recommendation. Same exact way they pass bills today.

Also if something doesn't pass and the trigger is activated it does not mean anything will get cut. Congress has put triggers on themselves before and either ignored them when they happened or changed the rules so the effect wasn't significant.

So I wouldn't worry.

I don't see this "Super Comgress" getting anything done to be truthfull.

Just more hot air as the worls turns.

Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by Vitchilo

 

If it doesn't pass than they will just see what it will take to pass it and adjust their recommendation. Same exact way they pass bills today.

Also if something doesn't pass and the trigger is activated it does not mean anything will get cut. Congress has put triggers on themselves before and either ignored them when they happened or changed the rules so the effect wasn't significant.

So I wouldn't worry.

Still, you are screwed. It's still... no cuts (bankruptcy using inflation) or cutting the people's benefits... so either way, you are still screwed.

would people stop with the military industrial complex nonsense in a country where nothing is made from beginning to end what makes you thing defense is any different?

doesnt matter what it is everything is made in china.

i dont have a problem with the scam that social security and medicare and medicaid getting cut they already account for over 100 trillion that can never be paid for.

people push those services are disillusioned to as how they work and they work by government holding a gun to your head taking money from other people who arent using those services to pay for people who are.

that is criminal.

i cant stand the supercongress but if anyone doesnt think for one second defense isnt going to be cut IT WILL BE.

free money from the government always wins out in this country today aint nothing going to stop that ever.

reply to post by neo96


Your right neo, that Eisenhower guy was full of it, what did he know anyway? He was probably just some random bum from off the street.

reply to post by Vitchilo


I will definetly agree with that statement.

This Supercongress is nothing more than a place for Congress to shift the blame when election time comes. They certainly aren't bound to anything it does but when they have to address their voters they will say the reason nothing got done was because this Supercongress was inefficient.

I think it's pretty obvious and will more than likely be disbanded right after the election.

reply to post by The_Phantom


esienhower was full of it and the people that push that myth today.

noone can argue the simple fact of outsourcing and the label made in china.

try as they might.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by The_Phantom

 

esienhower was full of it and the people that push that myth today.

noone can argue the simple fact of outsourcing and the label made in china.

try as they might.

Corporations are corporations, it doesn't matter where they are. Military spending is no myth, and as long as those corps. have US interests then they can make their voice herd to those that sign the pay checks.

Eisenhower wasn't a myth...he was a legend.

reply to post by neo96

would people stop with the military industrial complex nonsense in a country where nothing is made from beginning to end what makes you thing defense is any different?

And why isn't anything made in this country anymore? Because the worthless deadbeats you constantly support begged the government for tax breaks to create jobs and then moved them overseas while destroying our industrial infrastructure. These so called job creators should be jailed and charged with fraud.

reply to post by buster2010


those "worthless deadbeats" have created more wealth and lifted more people out of poverty than any government or any government program ever has.

and those worthless deadbeats make and provide everything you use on a daily basis hate so much ?

grow your own food make your own clothes make your electronics build your own homes make your own power and everything else you take for granted.

yeah they ARE job creators why have they left? simple fact that people push that government knows best and you know best and business dont know jack.

meh

reply to post by neo96

noone can argue the simple fact of outsourcing and the label made in china.

Haha, silly neo. You blame China simply because you don't want to admit the military is doing more harm than good. China is the only reason the U.S is still a country. If it wasn't for cheap goods from China most of the U.S would be in poverty.

reply to post by buster2010

And why isn't anything made in this country anymore?

Because the U.S govt makes it almost impossible to make a profit manufacturing in the U.S.

reply to post by Rockdisjoint


no rock i blame demagoguery and vilification of "people" or "entities" that every single person counts on and uses in their daily lives and that demgoguery has led to legistaltion that is destroying and has destroyed the very soul and foundation of this country.

cant find a job? cant get a lone? and make anything but comsume and buy someone elses?

thats why the simple fact that this country is a complete dependency based society ran by money and the wants and desires that can not ever produce enough capital to sustain those needs and wants because none ever look at the big piticure.

its always someone elses fault its corporations faults its all those evil rich peoples fault the fact is america today americans reach has exceeded their grasp of the i want it all i want it now and i dont care how mentality crowd.

a prices was paid and people are begging yes more please and push for more power that has created the problems in this country that has never ever even begun to solve them

this is the bed they made for themselves they dont see it they dont want to see it hell its just too easy to hate and blame the wrong people for it.

why because its just so easy.

and for the love of aqua buddah will you please change that signature.

Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by Vitchilo

 

You do know that the rest of Congress has to pass whatever they propose so the members with alot of people relying on these programs will vote no.

What's the problem?

Really? Then...doesn't that kind of make the whole thing pointless?

If ultimately it is up to the regular congress anyway?

reply to post by neo96


I love how you smack talked the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, Supreme Commander of NATO, Republican President, that fought against and defeated the Nazi's. Bam, in your face Eisenhower, you didn't know jack about the military.